On Sunday 2 October 2011 02:27:06 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> I personally also don't use custom power management profiles, but to me,
> tying this to Plasma activities (which I don't use and am certainly not
> alone in not using) sounds very wrong.
I find amazing how people can manage to have a strong
Luca Beltrame wrote:
> After all, in the KDE Forums we don't see anymore people lamenting the
> lack of icons on desktop by default...
Probably because the distros are not shipping 4.7 yet. (4.1 to 4.6 actually
do show desktop icons by default, in a folder view widget which is set up by
default.
Dario Freddi wrote:
> we plan to remove the "Warning" step
Uhm, wait a minute… Do you mean you will just suspend or shut down the
machine with no warning whatsoever? If that's really what you mean, to me,
this sounds incredibly rude and might lead to data loss – especially if
"shut down" is the
Andras Mantia wrote:
> I don't like if software forces me to work in a certain way. And with
> activities I'm not alone. I'm happy without them, even if they are useful
> for others. Just as I'm mostly happy also without virtual desktops (which
> are a must for others). People are different, they h
On Saturday 01 October 2011 23:41:42 Anders Lund wrote:
> On Lørdag den 1. oktober 2011, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > I don't understand how creating a new activity represents an improvement
> > to the user. If I understand the proposal correctly the user will only
> > use the power manager to chan
On Saturday 01 October 2011 21:30:02 Lukas wrote:
> On 1 October 2011 21:36, wrote:
> > > Something like having Power mode switch:
> > >
> > > [Performance] [Normal] [Battery stretch]
> > >
> > > where Normal is current static profile; Performance - temporary
> > > disables any limitations; Batt
On Saturday 01 October 2011 21:21:40 Andras Mantia wrote:
> [Please reply on both lists if you cross-posted, otherwise dicussion will
> be more fragmented. I just looked up the plasma list out of curiosity,
> normally I don't follow, so your mail would have been missed.]
>
> Dario Freddi wrote:
>
On Saturday 01 October 2011 21:03:10 Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> What happens if I don't use activities at all since they provide no use
> for me? And whats also not clear to me: How can I get powermanagement
> configured so it never dims down my screen brightness (since thats
> making the display use
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On 1 October 2011 21:36, wrote:
> >
> > Something like having Power mode switch:
> >
> > [Performance] [Normal] [Battery stretch]
> >
> > where Normal is current static profile; Performance - temporary disables
> > any limitations; Battery stretch - disables everything, that can
> > be disabled [
[Please reply on both lists if you cross-posted, otherwise dicussion will be
more fragmented. I just looked up the plasma list out of curiosity, normally
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Dario Freddi wrote:
>> I can't comment on activities, never used them, nor feel the nee
In data sabato 01 ottobre 2011 19:22:21, Kevin Kofler ha scritto:
> Users will not accept your "something better" unless their favorite existing
> screensaver runs on it. No amount of communication can change that. (And
But one can "feel the pulse" of the users. Blogs, and even more so the KDE
F
On Saturday 01 October 2011 19:33:06 Andras Mantia wrote:
> On Saturday, October 01, 2011 16:27:48 Dario Freddi wrote:
> > Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting.
> >
> > [...]
>
> I can't comment on activities, never used them, nor feel the need to use
> them. So this sounds more like the power
On Saturday, October 01, 2011 16:27:48 Dario Freddi wrote:
> Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting.
> [...]
I can't comment on activities, never used them, nor feel the need to use
them. So this sounds more like the power management applet would force
me to create and use activites.
What I ca
Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> unless we give them something better and communicate with understanding.
Users will not accept your "something better" unless their favorite existing
screensaver runs on it. No amount of communication can change that. (And
please don't shoot the messenger! I don't even us
On Saturday 01 October 2011 18:15:53 Lukas wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 1 October 2011 17:59, wrote:
> > Message: 5
> >
> >
> > At the same time, the combobox for selecting a profile in the battery
> > applet
> > will be removed. It will, although, be replaced by a toggle button for
> > inhibition: by e
Hi,
On 1 October 2011 17:59, wrote:
> Message: 5
>
>
> At the same time, the combobox for selecting a profile in the battery
> applet
> will be removed. It will, although, be replaced by a toggle button for
> inhibition: by enabling/disabling it, power management features regarding
> screen susp
On Saturday 01 October 2011, Dario Freddi wrote:
> > this i guess would be a kind of "presentation mode"...
> > would it still cover enough use cases?
> > maybe together with activities could be enough, not 100% sure
>
> Well, covering all use cases is something I don't feel I can guarantee for
>
On Saturday 01 October 2011 17:01:34 Jeremy Whiting wrote:
> Your use of the word "activity" here is referring to plasma
> activities? Or Activity is just the name of user-defined power
> profiles?
Plasma activities
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On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Dario Freddi wrote:
> On Saturday 01 October 2011 16:55:54 Marco Martin wrote:
>> On Saturday 01 October 2011, Dario Freddi wrote:
>> > Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting.
>> > At the same time, the combobox for selecting a profile in the battery
>> > applet wil
On Saturday 01 October 2011 16:55:54 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Saturday 01 October 2011, Dario Freddi wrote:
> > Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting.
> > At the same time, the combobox for selecting a profile in the battery
> > applet will be removed. It will, although, be replaced by a toggle bu
On Saturday 01 October 2011, Dario Freddi wrote:
> Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting.
> At the same time, the combobox for selecting a profile in the battery
> applet will be removed. It will, although, be replaced by a toggle button
> for inhibition: by enabling/disabling it, power management
On Saturday 01 October 2011 16:39:38 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> Not sure about coupling them with activities...
>
> There are actually two other issues I have right now with the power
> management:
Well, those are actually bugs, hence slightly OT. Anyway...
>
> 1) it has per-user settings.
>
On Saturday 01 October 2011, Dario Freddi wrote:
> Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting.
>
> Me and Bjorn have been discussing extensively about how to improve the
> current situation with Power Management in KDE. We focused on simplicity,
> still without losing power-user features. And we have
Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting.
Me and Bjorn have been discussing extensively about how to improve the current
situation with Power Management in KDE. We focused on simplicity, still
without losing power-user features. And we have a plan I'd like to share and
get some feedback on.
The
On Samstag 01 Oktober 2011 14:10:39 Marco Martin wrote:
> for saving from damage, there is a thing called "power saving" :p
Doesn't help the people who want a huge clock as screensaver without damaging
their
displays. It has to move.
A Plasma containment whose widgets can float and bounce from
On Samstag 01 Oktober 2011 12:36:12 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> we should also stress that if things like OpenGL screensavers are important
> enough to people, that support for "things to draw moving things on screen
> when locked" can be created anew.
We already have KWin effects – even gimmicky one
On Saturday 01 October 2011, Markus Slopianka wrote:
> On Samstag 01 Oktober 2011 10:52:04 Marco Martin wrote:
> > that's what the support of plamoids on screensaver is for ;)
>
> I already understood that but as a screensaver (you know: to actually save
> screens from damage, incl. LCDs) a few ad
On Samstag 01 Oktober 2011 10:52:04 Marco Martin wrote:
> that's what the support of plamoids on screensaver is for ;)
I already understood that but as a screensaver (you know: to actually save
screens from
damage, incl. LCDs) a few additional features are required. At the very least,
plasmoids
On Saturday, October 1, 2011 11:46:43 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > rather don't do this "if only one user is configured" as
> > a) this is rather never the case (does kdm know that "sauerbraten" and
> > "mpd" are no regular users? what about "nobody", "fetchmail"
yes, kdm does. this is how it kn
On Thursday, September 29, 2011 23:49:50 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > * drop screensaver support altogether, probably would create some troubles
> > as evil KDE removed screensavers
> > * add Plasma widget support to new screen locker implementation but drop
> > screensaver suppo
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> Am Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:14:59 +0200
> schrieb Martin Gräßlin :
>
> > But when compositing is turned off, you currently get the plain old
> > implementation including screen savers. And I don't want to change
> > that code.
> Seconding Marco: "Why?"
it's such
On Saturday 01 October 2011, Markus Slopianka wrote:
> Is anybody aware of empiric studies for what (if at all) people use
> screensavers these days?
> Personally I'd expect clock, news headlines, and photo slideshows to be the
> top answers. QML replacements should be available for the top uses on
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