On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Richard C. Steffens wrote:
> On 5/5/2011 7:33 AM, Word Wizard wrote:
>> I'm not a big fan of the new "landscape" monitors. I use an older 4:3 20
>> inch LCD because I like the vertical space for text reading/writing
>> work. I dread the day it gives out because onl
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Alexander Case wrote:
> I'm pretty sure HP still makes those. I don't know if there are Linux
> drivers for their monitors (the rotation part, that is.)
xrandr handles rotations just fine (as does at least one of the gnome
xrandr font-ends). Gnome settings even ha
On Thu, 5 May 2011, Mike Connors wrote:
> Besides who uses a computer for anything other than watching videos... :-(
I thought that was why folks bought iPhones and their off-shoots.
Rich
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On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Word Wizard wrote:
> I'm not a big fan of the new "landscape" monitors. I use an older 4:3 20
> inch LCD because I like the vertical space for text reading/writing
> work. I dread the day it gives out because only the band-aid form-factor
> monitors seem to be avail
On May 5, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Word Wizard wrote:
> I'm not a big fan of the new "landscape" monitors. I use an older 4:3 20
> inch LCD because I like the vertical space for text reading/writing
> work
What's really cool about the widescreen monitors is that you can have two
pages, side by side
I'm pretty sure HP still makes those. I don't know if there are Linux
drivers for their monitors (the rotation part, that is.)
On May 5, 2011 8:11 AM, "Richard C. Steffens" wrote:
On 5/5/2011 7:33 AM, Word Wizard wrote:
> I'm not a big fan of the new "landscape" monitors. I use a...
There used t
On 5/5/2011 7:33 AM, Word Wizard wrote:
> I'm not a big fan of the new "landscape" monitors. I use an older 4:3 20
> inch LCD because I like the vertical space for text reading/writing
> work. I dread the day it gives out because only the band-aid form-factor
> monitors seem to be available now. Th
I'm not a big fan of the new "landscape" monitors. I use an older 4:3 20
inch LCD because I like the vertical space for text reading/writing
work. I dread the day it gives out because only the band-aid form-factor
monitors seem to be available now. They don't deliver the vertical size
I like wi
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Word Wizard wrote:
>
>
> Now that Natty seems to have settled down, apparently it does deliver
> performance superior to its predecessors. Whether due to the new
> compiz-based graphics instead of mutter or some other change I can't say
> but display speed is notic
Update on Ubuntu 11.4 install
Regarding my previous fine whines about the bugs in the latest Ubuntu
release, Natty 11.4, out of fairness I felt I should present my
subsequent experiences with the Unity desktop version.
The display bugs and performance disappointments I encountered upon
first
> CentOS, on the other hand, is RHEL, without any of the RedHat proprietary
> stuff. It should be, and in my experience is, very stable. I've installed it
> on various hardware without issue. The CentOS team takes the RHEL open source
> tree, and reconstitutes it.
Yes, I've run CentOS on work m
On May 2, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Mike Connors wrote:
> Fedora on my T60 performed horrendously.
While I do not have much experience installing on many laptops, I can speak to
Redhat/CentOS/Fedora.
I shy away from Fedora, just as I shy away from a .0 release of most software.
Fedora is, as Redhat
/The best thing about Linux. If you don't like one flavor, there are 50
others. Whereas with Windows, the user is stuck with whatever Steven
Ballmer deems they should have. Linux has about a dozen desktops, Unity,
Gnome Shell, KDE, lxde, xfce and more, two package management systems,
several di
> Fedora (the most-used *ix at my workplace) user experience seems to have
> improved a great deal since i last tried using it almost five years ago,
> and would probably be my next choice.
I've wanted to like and use Fedora many times. But I'm I have an
unfavorable opinion of
RPM based distros. I
Oh, it might help if I provided the link to the article...
http://m.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/shuttleworth-on-ubuntu-1104-linux-unity/8780
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Mike Connors wrote:
> If there's any truth to what's in this article than Unity and Linux
> consumer-oriented desktop is the
If there's any truth to what's in this article than Unity and Linux
consumer-oriented desktop is the direction Shuttleworth plans to take
Ubuntu.
=> Shuttleworth opened by saying that the main point of Ubuntu 11.04
with Unity was “to bring the joys and freedoms and innovation and
performance and s
On 05/02/2011 07:28 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> Quantify and compare the results. Send a copy to Shuttleworth.
thanks, John and Mike, for keeping a positive tone.
i usually wait at least a month before installing the latest Ubuntu
release, but this time around i'm sticking with 10.10 because
> Give half of them Natty and half of them Maverick. Make each user work
> alone at home so none sees what any of the others are doing. Give them
> specific user type tasks, such as "write a letter to a potential
> employer," "write a term paper for school," "find the meanings of terms
> on wikiped
On Mon, 02 May 2011 17:36:53 -0700
Word Wizard dijo:
>Either the OS is designed for newcomers or Linux or veteran users.
So you conclude that a distro can't meet the needs of more than one of
these groups?
>Right now Natty seems totally hostile to the former while a pain in
>the backside from
Therein lies the rub.
Either the OS is designed for newcomers or Linux or veteran users.
Right now Natty seems totally hostile to the former while a pain in the
backside from at least some veteran users. I'm no MS/CS sys-admin but
I'm not a Linux or Ubuntu newbie either. I love the ease of inst
> I just got back from Linuxfest NorthWest and I spoke with quite a few people
> about this. Almost all of them dislike Unity. It is about the same as when
> KDE went from 3 to 4... everyone hated it, but now that it has matured a
> bit, it is an excellent desktop. The little bit of playing I did
. An in-depth study of the reactions and problems
> of new desktop users, comparing Unity, Gnome, KDE, and a few others,
> would be very revealing.
>
> I won't speculate as to the outcome. I only wish to point out that
> without some scientific evidence, everything that people say pro and
> con Uni
I just got back from Linuxfest NorthWest and I spoke with quite a few people
about this. Almost all of them dislike Unity. It is about the same as when
KDE went from 3 to 4... everyone hated it, but now that it has matured a
bit, it is an excellent desktop. The little bit of playing I did with
Un
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:10:28 -0700
Mike Connors dijo:
>> I wonder how much different the reactions would be if you took a
>> similar group and gave them a Gnome desktop, or KDE, or whatever.
>>
>> I suspect the results would be about the same, but it would be
>> interesting to see an experiment.
> I wonder how much different the reactions would be if you took a
> similar group and gave them a Gnome desktop, or KDE, or whatever.
>
> I suspect the results would be about the same, but it would be
> interesting to see an experiment.
Probably. We all work differently in a UI that gives us that
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 22:54:43 -0700
Mike Connors dijo:
>>From the data provided, it doesn't seem to be a very intuitive / user
>friendly interface...
>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-April/032988.html
I wonder how much different the reactions would be if you took a
similar gro
> Yeah, I finally buckled as more and more devices started showing up
> (family laptops, family desktops) that I didn't want to have to pay so
> much attention to. Ubuntu has historically given a pleasant
> out-of-the-box experience for non-nerds. Maybe Unity would be fine
> for a non-nerd, but .
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 05:44:38 -0700 (PDT)
Rich Shepard dijo:
>On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>
>> As has been mentioned here recently, today, April 28, is the release
>> date for Natty Narwhal, Ubuntu 11.04.
>
> For the record, yesterday was the official release date for
>Slackwar
On 04/28/2011 07:20 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> As has been mentioned here recently, today, April 28, is the release
> date for Natty Narwhal, Ubuntu 11.04. I have downloaded the Alternate,
> Desktop and Server of the Ubuntu live CDs, 32- and 64-bit. I have also
> downloaded Kubuntu Alternate an
> "Paul" == Paul Heinlein writes:
Paul> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Russell Senior wrote:
>>> "Paul" == Paul Heinlein writes:
>>
Paul> The default destop feels like the old netbook-spin desktop.
Paul> It's not really my favorite, but it's pretty attractive and its
Paul> operation is easy enough
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Russell Senior wrote:
>> "Paul" == Paul Heinlein writes:
>
> Paul> The default destop feels like the old netbook-spin desktop.
> Paul> It's not really my favorite, but it's pretty attractive and
> Paul> its operation is easy enough to grok.
>
> Making it hard to find an
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Russell Senior wrote:
> I really don't like the computer-as-uncomfortably-large-smartphone idea.
And it probably is tiring on the arm holding it against your ear.
Rich
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> "Paul" == Paul Heinlein writes:
Paul> The default destop feels like the old netbook-spin desktop. It's
Paul> not really my favorite, but it's pretty attractive and its
Paul> operation is easy enough to grok.
Making it hard to find and re-enable the "old style" desktop, so that
people can b
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> As has been mentioned here recently, today, April 28, is the release
> date for Natty Narwhal, Ubuntu 11.04.
For the record, yesterday was the official release date for
Slackware-13.37.
So there. :-)
Rich
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> As has been mentioned here recently, today, April 28, is the release
> date for Natty Narwhal, Ubuntu 11.04. I have downloaded the
> Alternate, Desktop and Server of the Ubuntu live CDs, 32- and
> 64-bit. I have also downloaded Kubuntu Alternate a
As has been mentioned here recently, today, April 28, is the release
date for Natty Narwhal, Ubuntu 11.04. I have downloaded the Alternate,
Desktop and Server of the Ubuntu live CDs, 32- and 64-bit. I have also
downloaded Kubuntu Alternate and Desktop (there is no server version) in
32- and 64-bit
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