Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

> "Michael" == Michael writes: Michael> On 2017-12-17 04:24, Richard Owlett wrote: >> I was able to spend a few hours on the site and following trees of >> links. I would suggest for thoughtful >> reading. I can attest to some of his points from personal experi

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 2017-12-17 04:24, Richard Owlett wrote: I was able to spend a few hours on the site and following trees of links. I would suggest for thoughtful reading. I can attest to some of his points from personal experience. That's a great suggestion. The essay does lay

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 12/15/2017 09:10 AM, David Bridges wrote: Perhaps basic256 is close to what you are looking for. It is packaged for Debian so it should be easy enough to check out. apt-cache show basic256 http://www.basic256.org/index_en -- David *YES* I was able to spend a few hours on the site and fo

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 12/15/2017 05:12 PM, Russell Senior wrote: You can totally run a real 1960's BASIC on linux with a PDP-8 emulator. I have a PiDP-8 that I built from a kit from Switzerland. http://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-8 It uses a Raspberry Pi as a host system for the simulator, a sli

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

You can totally run a real 1960's BASIC on linux with a PDP-8 emulator. I have a PiDP-8 that I built from a kit from Switzerland. http://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-8 It uses a Raspberry Pi as a host system for the simulator, a slightly modified version of SIMH: http://simh.t

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 12/15/2017 03:17 PM, Neal wrote: On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 7:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: ... Or solving some particular problem? Actually a loosely defined set of problems. I've often wished for BASIC to write a simple script. There are a proliferate plethora of corpulent Basic's ou

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 12/15/2017 09:10 AM, David Bridges wrote: Perhaps basic256 is close to what you are looking for. It is packaged for Debian so it should be easy enough to check out. apt-cache show basic256 http://www.basic256.org/index_en Just downloaded it. Much more powerful than either of those I ment

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 12/15/2017 12:19 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/15/2017 08:47 AM, John Sechrest wrote: What is the goal of the basic? Chuckle. I intentionally capitalized BASIC to be recognized as an acronym. Just dinking around? BASIC is the

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 12/15/2017 09:37 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 15 Dec 2017, Richard Owlett wrote: IOW, the suitable tool for my needs is a tack hammer not a sledgehammer. smaller is *BETTER*! Consider bash scripts with the assistance of sed, awk, grep, and other tools you already have in your debian i

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 7:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > ... > > > Or solving some particular problem? >> > > Actually a loosely defined set of problems. > I've often wished for BASIC to write a simple script. > There are a proliferate plethora of corpulent Basic's out there. > ... I applaud yo

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/15/2017 08:47 AM, John Sechrest wrote: > >> What is the goal of the basic? >> > > Chuckle. I intentionally capitalized BASIC to be recognized as an acronym. > > >> Just dinking around? >> > > BASIC is the appropriate tool. E.G. it's s

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

BASIC was great when it was in style. Millions of students got their start with BASIC, and to many it was their intro to the computer business. This book went into 3 Editions and many foreign translations. I miss BASIC. . David A. Lien - W7DAL https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 12/15/2017 09:10 AM, David Bridges wrote: Perhaps basic256 is close to what you are looking for. It is packaged for Debian so it should be easy enough to check out. apt-cache show basic256 http://www.basic256.org/index_en -- David *YES* That page looks fascinating - leaving for appointm

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On Fri, 15 Dec 2017, Richard Owlett wrote: IOW, the suitable tool for my needs is a tack hammer not a sledgehammer. smaller is *BETTER*! Consider bash scripts with the assistance of sed, awk, grep, and other tools you already have in your debian installation. The entire UNIX/linux system is

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

On 12/15/2017 08:47 AM, John Sechrest wrote: What is the goal of the basic? Chuckle. I intentionally capitalized BASIC to be recognized as an acronym. Just dinking around? BASIC is the appropriate tool. E.G. it's silly and often counter productive to use a cannon for an annoying mosquito.

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

Perhaps basic256 is close to what you are looking for. It is packaged for Debian so it should be easy enough to check out. apt-cache show basic256 http://www.basic256.org/index_en -- David On Fri, 2017-12-15 at 16:47 +0200, John Sechrest wrote: > What is the goal of the basic? > > Just dinkin

Re: [PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

What is the goal of the basic? Just dinking around? Or creating value of some kind? Or solving some particular problem? The default language that I point purple to is JavaScript, since it is so ubiquitous and since it solves many problems in the default user interface these days. It looks like

[PLUG] Need an OLD style BASIC

The thread titled "Learning programming" prompts to ask. I'm looking for a _simple_ BASIC, similar to "Dartmouth BASIC" or "Lawrence Livermore BASIC", to run on my Debian machine. Modern Basic's are too powerful and filled with glitter. I have mind some simple scripts. I'm learning Tcl which