Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On 26 Aug 2010, at 07:38, Dave Smith wrote: My company is proposing installing an NTLM-based filtering proxy and shutting down all other internet access. This of course is not too friendly to Linux users. What does your company do to deal with malware? Remove all Microsoft operating

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread William Attwood
Google did that, too. On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Jonathan Duncan jonat...@bluesunhosting.com wrote: On 26 Aug 2010, at 07:38, Dave Smith wrote: My company is proposing installing an NTLM-based filtering proxy and shutting down all other internet access. This of course is not too

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:14:01 -0600 William Attwood wattw...@gmail.com wrote: Google did that, too. Aye, and I did it nigh on eleven years ago, long before Google did. On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Jonathan Duncan jonat...@bluesunhosting.com wrote: On 26 Aug 2010, at 07:38, Dave

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread Christer Edwards
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Charles Curley charlescur...@charlescurley.com wrote: My company is proposing installing an NTLM-based filtering proxy and shutting down all other internet access. This of course is not too friendly to Linux users. What does your company do to deal with

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On 26 Aug 2010, at 09:57, Christer Edwards wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Charles Curley charlescur...@charlescurley.com wrote: My company is proposing installing an NTLM-based filtering proxy and shutting down all other internet access. This of course is not too friendly to Linux

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread Dave Smith
On 08/26/2010 08:14 AM, William Attwood wrote: Google did that, too. Thanks for the info. Do you know if lots of other companies have also done this? --Dave /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Dave Smith d...@thesmithfam.org wrote: My company is proposing installing an NTLM-based filtering proxy and shutting down all other internet access. This of course is not too friendly to Linux users. What does your company do to deal with malware? Instead of

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread Dave Smith
On 08/26/2010 10:00 AM, Lonnie Olson wrote: Proxies are really annoying to everyone. Transparent proxies, inline filtering, etc are much better. Agreed. They cannot filter SSL traffic, right? One advantage (if you can call it that) of an explicit proxy is that it can do SSL filtering

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Dave Smith d...@thesmithfam.org wrote: Agreed. They cannot filter SSL traffic, right? One advantage (if you can call it that) of an explicit proxy is that it can do SSL filtering (albeit in a broken, obnoxious way). True, but many of the stock appliances

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 10:00 -0600, Dave Smith wrote: Thanks for the info. Do you know if lots of other companies have also done this? Completely eliminated Windows? Not many. Obviously it's possible to a small company off from Windows. For as long as I've worked at GL we've had only one

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On 26 Aug 2010, at 11:04, Stuart Jansen wrote: Novell made a big announcement about getting rid of Windows, but I don't think it actually happened. Yeah, I remember when they did that. I was there and I was already running Linux so they asked me to help other people switch. There was a

Re: UPS Recommendations

2010-08-26 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:21:13AM -0600, Bryan Thomas wrote: out of curiosity, why do you say that they all suck? what would make them better? As others have said, dealing with batteries is a pain, and they fail frequently. I've also been frustrated to find that when a battery fails,

Re: UPS Recommendations

2010-08-26 Thread Tyler Harmor
Having had several UPS' fail on me over the years, I can agree with that statement at it's core. The problem with it however, is if not UPS (battery tech), then what? Unfortunately, there aren't many viable options available out there today (short of having a diesel generating on standby next to

Re: UPS Recommendations

2010-08-26 Thread Corey Edwards
On 08/26/2010 01:11 PM, Tyler Harmor wrote: Having had several UPS' fail on me over the years, I can agree with that statement at it's core. The problem with it however, is if not UPS (battery tech), then what? Unfortunately, there aren't many viable options available out there today (short

Re: UPS Recommendations

2010-08-26 Thread Tyler Harmor
Yes, sorry. I was being more sarcastic then anything with that last comment. ty|er. On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Corey Edwards ten...@zmonkey.org wrote: On 08/26/2010 01:11 PM, Tyler Harmor wrote: Having had several UPS' fail on me over the years, I can agree with that statement at

Re: UPS Recommendations

2010-08-26 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 01:11:22PM -0600, Tyler Harmor wrote: Having had several UPS' fail on me over the years, I can agree with that statement at it's core. The problem with it however, is if not UPS (battery tech), then what? Unfortunately, there aren't many viable options available out

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread Dave Smith
On 08/26/2010 11:04 AM, Stuart Jansen wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 10:00 -0600, Dave Smith wrote: Thanks for the info. Do you know if lots of other companies have also done this? Completely eliminated Windows? Not many. No, I was talking about implementing filtered,

Re: UPS Recommendations

2010-08-26 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:48:18 -0600 Andrew McNabb amcn...@mcnabbs.org wrote: As others have said, dealing with batteries is a pain, and they fail frequently. I've also been frustrated to find that when a battery fails, sometimes this causes the UPS to shut down power to the connected

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 14:03:14 -0600 Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote: If the new employee is adamant about Windows, Pete will install Windows for them, but if they get wormed, it's uninstalled and GNU/Linux is now their new operating system. I worm my horses twice a year. --

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread Joel Finlinson
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Stuart Jansen sjan...@buscaluz.orgwrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 10:00 -0600, Dave Smith wrote: Thanks for the info. Do you know if lots of other companies have also done this? Completely eliminated Windows? Not many. Obviously it's possible to a small

Re: How does your company deal with malware?

2010-08-26 Thread John Shaver
I already used Ernie Ball guitar strings. Now I have one more reason to :) -John On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Joel Finlinson j...@finlinson.net wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Stuart Jansen sjan...@buscaluz.orgwrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 10:00 -0600, Dave Smith wrote: Thanks

Re: UPS Recommendations

2010-08-26 Thread Michael Torrie
On 08/26/2010 01:24 PM, Corey Edwards wrote: A generator won't solve your problem without a UPS. It takes up to a couple minutes for the generator to kick on and switch over. During that time you need a UPS to carry the load. There's really just no way around it. Preventative maintenance is