Hello Everyone,
Not trying to be a news hound or anything, but I thought I would bring
your attention to the fact that the Daily Herald is running a very
well written Op Ed piece about iProvo today.
Here's a link if you're interested in reading and/or commenting on it.
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 07:58:18AM -0600, S. Dale Morrey wrote:
The one comment so far is pretty negative, so maybe we should hop in
there and rally 'round.
Rally 'round what? I like the idea of municipal fiber, but iProvo is a
disaster.
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On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Andrew McNabb amcn...@mcnabbs.org wrote:
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 07:58:18AM -0600, S. Dale Morrey wrote:
The one comment so far is pretty negative, so maybe we should hop in
there and rally 'round.
Rally 'round what? I like the idea of municipal fiber, but
On 09/09/2011 10:23 AM, S. Dale Morrey wrote:
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Andrew McNabbamcn...@mcnabbs.org wrote:
I like the idea of municipal fiber, but iProvo is a
disaster.
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http://www.mcnabbs.org/andrew/
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If you're getting into JavaScript, you may consider:
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P.S. you'll make people like me cringe if you use inline JS (onload=)
instead of events.
With jQuery:
app.js:
$(function () {
// this function fires once the dom is ready
});
With Ender.JS:
var $ =
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 10:23:20AM -0600, S. Dale Morrey wrote:
Really how so? I thought it was at least as good as Utopia.
Here are a few problems that I'm aware of:
1) The city of Provo determined that ISPs could only sign up if they
offered Internet, phone, and TV. This locked out good
On 09/09/2011 11:15 AM, Andrew McNabb wrote:
3) Broadweave bought out iProvo and all of its ISPs, so my understanding
is that it's no longer a municipal service at all--it's just another ISP
with particularly bad service.
The folks I know who are using it are pretty happy with the service.
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 11:26:30AM -0600, Michael Torrie wrote:
The folks I know who are using it are pretty happy with the service.
It's way faster than anything Comcast or Qwest can offer, and the bundle
prices are decent. My cousin has it for Internet and Voice and he is
pretty darn
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Andrew McNabb amcn...@mcnabbs.org wrote:
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 10:23:20AM -0600, S. Dale Morrey wrote:
Really how so? I thought it was at least as good as Utopia.
Here are a few problems that I'm aware of:
1) The city of Provo determined that ISPs could
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 11:55:54AM -0600, Bart Whiteley wrote:
1) The city of Provo determined that ISPs could only sign up if they
offered Internet, phone, and TV. This locked out good ISPs like
XMission that had no interest in TV.
That was unfortunate, but somewhat understandable. The
First Point:
Andrew is right that since Provo sold the network, iProvo is no longer a
municipal infrastructure. It is just another monopoly utility, and a poorly run
one at that. The light in the tunnel is that if Broadweave don't change how
they do things, then Provo gets the network back.
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:11 AM, AJ ONeal coola...@gmail.com wrote:
If you're getting into JavaScript, you may consider:
uta...@googlegroups.com
P.P.S. Of course, php also makes me cringe. (yay for Node.JS / ruby / python
/ erlang / anything-else-that's-actually-a-language)
Hey, php is
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Levi Pearson levipear...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:11 AM, AJ ONeal coola...@gmail.com wrote:
If you're getting into JavaScript, you may consider:
uta...@googlegroups.com
P.P.S. Of course, php also makes me cringe. (yay for Node.JS / ruby /
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Andrew McNabb amcn...@mcnabbs.org wrote:
I haven't heard anything about it being returned to the city. It sounds
interesting, but I'd definitely like to have more information.
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 01:06:11PM -0600, Bart Whiteley wrote:
http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/central/provo/article_6bb7c6ba-9a41-56a8-84e0-cbbe81e5d48c.html
http://www.freeutopia.org/2011/08/09/where-iprovo-is-going-from-here/
Interesting. Thank you for the links.
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Andrew McNabb
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:01 PM, S. Dale Morrey sdalemor...@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious, to know if anyone but me has been seeing a lot of
consulting work popup where companies are either moving off PHP and
onto Java, or vise versa? Seems like out of the last 10 projects or
so I've worked
Snide troll inserted below.
On Friday September 9 2011 15:40:32 Levi Pearson levipear...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:01 PM, S. Dale Morrey sdalemor...@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious, to know if anyone but me has been seeing a lot of
consulting work popup where companies are
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Richard Esplin
richard-li...@esplins.org wrote:
Snide troll inserted below.
On Friday September 9 2011 15:40:32 Levi Pearson levipear...@gmail.com
wrote:
Everyone wants a magic bullet. If you're suffering under a mass of
unstructured php code, the structure
On 09 Sep 2011, at 16:28, Levi Pearson wrote:
Good developers with good management and a bit of good fortune could make a
nice web app in COBOL if they had to.
This, I would enjoy seeing.
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On Fri, September 9, 2011 4:30 pm, Jonathan Duncan wrote:
On 09 Sep 2011, at 16:28, Levi Pearson wrote:
Good developers with good management and a bit of good fortune could make a
nice web app in COBOL if they had to.
This, I would enjoy seeing.
http://www.coboloncogs.org/
--
Matthew
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 17:38, Ken Jordan ken.w.jor...@gmail.com wrote:
I love that. I'm definitely doing that. Thanks!
Ken Jordan
ken.w.jor...@gmail.com
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Ken Jordan
Here is a rack that is seconds as living room furniture.
http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/LackRack
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Jeff Jibson jeff.jib...@parentlink.net wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 17:38, Ken Jordan ken.w.jor...@gmail.com wrote:
I love that. I'm definitely doing that. Thanks!
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Nick Barker nlbar...@gmail.com wrote:
Here is a rack that is seconds as living room furniture.
http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/LackRack
I don't know, I think I like Thomas' recommendation better ;)
Gabe
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On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:30:49 -0600
Jonathan Duncan jonat...@bluesunhosting.com wrote:
On 09 Sep 2011, at 16:28, Levi Pearson wrote:
Good developers with good management and a bit of good fortune
could make a nice web app in COBOL if they had to.
This, I would enjoy seeing.
Cruelty!
On 9/9/2011 4:30 PM, Jonathan Duncan wrote:
On 09 Sep 2011, at 16:28, Levi Pearson wrote:
Good developers with good management and a bit of good fortune could make a
nice web app in COBOL if they had to.
This, I would enjoy seeing.
It probably wouldn't be hard to get going, actually. You'd
On 09 Sep 2011, at 16:41, Matthew Walker wrote:
Good developers with good management and a bit of good fortune could make a
nice web app in COBOL if they had to.
This, I would enjoy seeing.
http://www.coboloncogs.org/
Wow, I did not believe it. That is pretty darn cool. I love
On Sep 9, 2011 8:11 PM, Jonathan
Wow, I did not believe it. That is pretty darn cool. I love the
Interwebz!
Yup. On the internet it's April 1 st year round.
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On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Richard Esplin
richard-li...@esplins.org wrote:
Because they should all have been using Django from the beginning.
--count; // for it's terribly inefficient ORM
// oh, and for using signed ints for PKs still--the bug against that
was file something like 4 years
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