Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-18 Thread Levi Pearson
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Jonathan Duncan wrote: > > On 17 Jun 2013, at 12:42, Lonnie Olson wrote: > >> Wireless is convenient, but if you are remodeling anyway your barrier >> to start on real wiring is so low, it's an obvious win. >> > As an extra p

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-17 Thread Richard Holden
If you do the wiring yourself buy some string (possibly waxed) and run it along with your cables. That way if you need to add more you start from one end tie on the string and pull from the other. easier than trying to re-fish a new cable alongside the others. -Richard Holden /* PLUG: http

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-17 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On 17 Jun 2013, at 12:42, Lonnie Olson wrote: > Wireless is convenient, but if you are remodeling anyway your barrier > to start on real wiring is so low, it's an obvious win. > As an extra plus, if your house is wired you can choose to use wire or wireless or any combination t

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-17 Thread Lloyd Brown
You actually can run 10GbE over Cat6 and 8P8C ("RJ45") connectors if you really want to (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10-gigabit_Ethernet#10GBASE-T). So yes, Cat6 up to 55m, or Cat6a up to 100m should be good up to at least 10GbE. It's not completely future proof, but it'll be pretty good for a

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-17 Thread Lonnie Olson
er it will increase your costs dramatically. You'll have to weigh the benefits of doing so with your budget, future plans, etc. Wireless is convenient, but if you are remodeling anyway your barrier to start on real wiring is so low, it's an obvious win. If you don't want to wire it yoursel

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-17 Thread Todd Millecam
>From personal experience wiring my house with cat6--Cat6 was actually cheaper than cat5e for me. Also, you don't want to put more than 4 of them next to each other in a conduit or you will get crosstalk between the wires when they're all active. Also, don't cut any of them

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-17 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On 17 Jun 2013, at 07:19, keith smith wrote: > > I think improvements like this do not necessarily raise the value of a home. > What I think it will do is make the house more buy-able and therefore will > spend less time on the market. > > I use wireless in my house so I do not have to deal

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-17 Thread keith smith
wrote: From: Nathan England Subject: Re: Home wiring. To: "S. Dale Morrey" Cc: "Provo Linux Users Group" Date: Sunday, June 16, 2013, 9:03 PM On Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:01:10 PM S. Dale Morrey wrote: > 640k should be enough for everyone! > yeah yeah yeah... Good poi

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-16 Thread PLUG
T5, I use them in a couple of places in my house, with CAT5 wiring that was installed a dozen years ago. As long as the installation is good, CAT5E is OK for that. What you *can't* normally run except with CAT6 are the new HD-BaseT baluns, which will give you HDMI, audio, and a 100Mb Ethe

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-16 Thread Jason Hall
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Nathan England wrote: > On Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:01:10 PM S. Dale Morrey wrote: > > 640k should be enough for everyone! > > > > yeah yeah yeah... Good point. > I still think cat5e is good enough for a long time, unless you really have > the > money to install

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-16 Thread Nathan England
On Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:01:10 PM S. Dale Morrey wrote: > 640k should be enough for everyone! > yeah yeah yeah... Good point. I still think cat5e is good enough for a long time, unless you really have the money to install fiber in your home. And I cannot say for sure, I'd love to hear from

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-16 Thread S. Dale Morrey
! is > probably fiber. And I'd pay to see you replace your old aging cat5e with > fiber > by "pulling" it through your cables... > > Good luck with that! > > I don't see cat5e being replaced in home wiring systems for many years to > come. FDI is just too e

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-16 Thread Nathan England
t5e cable, unless you really want cat6, which is not necessarily faster, but certainly more expensive! is probably fiber. And I'd pay to see you replace your old aging cat5e with fiber by "pulling" it through your cables... Good luck with that! I don't see cat5e being replaced in ho

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-16 Thread Bart Whiteley
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Hongyi Gao wrote: > > It's called conduit > >> consider running the Ethernet cables >> inside pipe, so that at some time in the future you can use it to pull >> its replacement, whatever that will be. I haven't done this, so can't >> vouch for how much extra work i

RE: Home wiring.

2013-06-16 Thread Hongyi Gao
un, 16 Jun 2013 19:50:56 -0600 > From: charlescur...@charlescurley.com > To: plug@plug.org > Subject: Re: Home wiring. > > On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:55:33 -0600 > Bart Whiteley wrote: > > > I'm doing some remodeling and need to run some data cables. What's >

Re: Home wiring.

2013-06-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:55:33 -0600 Bart Whiteley wrote: > I'm doing some remodeling and need to run some data cables. What's > the best thing to run these days? Is cat5e sufficient? > > I'm running Gigabit Ethernet at the moment. Who knows what the future > will hold. Whatever you run will b

Home wiring.

2013-06-16 Thread Bart Whiteley
I'm doing some remodeling and need to run some data cables. What's the best thing to run these days? Is cat5e sufficient? I'm running Gigabit Ethernet at the moment. Who knows what the future will hold. If I don't have time to run the wires myself, what sort of person would I be looking to hir

Re: wiring

2010-06-24 Thread Henry Hertz Hobbit
On 06/24/2010 07:15 PM, Merrill Oveson wrote: > I may need some help wiring a building. > > I don't have the tools, or the expertise to do this on my own. > (It's mostly just cabling cat 5e wire from the wall to a patch panel.) > > Anybody out there interested, or

Re: wiring

2010-06-24 Thread Scott Jones
rrill Oveson wrote: >>> >>> I may need some help wiring a building. >>> >>> I don't have the tools, or the expertise to do this on my own. >>> (It's mostly just cabling cat 5e wire from the wall to a patch panel.) >>> >>> Any

Re: wiring

2010-06-24 Thread Merrill Oveson
around 100 lines at most, longest pull will be 150 feet. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Steven Alligood wrote: > On 06/24/2010 01:15 PM, Merrill Oveson wrote: >> >> I may need some help wiring a building. >> >> I don't have the tools, or the expertise to do

Re: wiring

2010-06-24 Thread Steven Alligood
On 06/24/2010 01:15 PM, Merrill Oveson wrote: I may need some help wiring a building. I don't have the tools, or the expertise to do this on my own. (It's mostly just cabling cat 5e wire from the wall to a patch panel.) Anybody out there interested, or know of somebody who can do

wiring

2010-06-24 Thread Merrill Oveson
I may need some help wiring a building. I don't have the tools, or the expertise to do this on my own. (It's mostly just cabling cat 5e wire from the wall to a patch panel.) Anybody out there interested, or know of somebody who can do this? Yes, I've contacted communications

Re: Tricky Cat-5 Wiring

2009-12-23 Thread Doran L. "Fozz" Barton
On Tuesday 22 December 2009 21:21:08 Dave Smith wrote: > Is it possible to run a cable into a room on the middle > floor without totally trashing the drywall? "Totally trashing"? A couple of small holes should be pretty easy to patch and paint over. Why the paralyzing fear of a little drywall w

Re: Tricky Cat-5 Wiring

2009-12-23 Thread Robert Merrill
--Original Message-- From: Dave Smith Sender: plug-boun...@plug.org To: Provo Linux Users Group ReplyTo: Provo Linux Users Group Subject: Re: Tricky Cat-5 Wiring Sent: Dec 23, 2009 10:57 AM Mike Lovell wrote: > i'm gonna change direction here for a moment. it sounds like

Re: Tricky Cat-5 Wiring

2009-12-23 Thread Dave Smith
Mike Lovell wrote: > i'm gonna change direction here for a moment. it sounds like you are > wanting to do this cause there is a lot of interference from other > networks and you are trying to solve it with going wired. are all of the > wifi networks around running in the 2.4Ghz range (802.11b/g/

Re: Tricky Cat-5 Wiring

2009-12-23 Thread Mike Lovell
Dave Smith wrote: > I know this is somewhat off topic, but then again, what isn't on Plug? > > I live in a 3-story house with all three floors finished. The house is > about 5 years old. Some of the rooms have cat-5 wiring, but others > don't. One such room is the o

Re: Tricky Cat-5 Wiring

2009-12-22 Thread Joe C
Some things that I've found handy in the past http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_tape 6 foot long drill bits A string with a nut attached to it for weight (use gravity as a friend) I do not pull cable any longer I only did it for one job in which I discovered that I'm claustrophobic. So sorry I

Re: Tricky Cat-5 Wiring

2009-12-22 Thread Joe George
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Levi Pearson wrote: >> The room of interest has a finished bedroom above it, with no cat-5, >> and a finished basement room below it, with no cat-5. I can get cat-5 >> in the attic, but that's two floors up, and I reckon it would be >> pretty easy to drop cable in

Re: Tricky Cat-5 Wiring

2009-12-22 Thread Levi Pearson
> The room of interest has a finished bedroom above it, with no cat-5, > and a finished basement room below it, with no cat-5. I can get cat-5 > in the attic, but that's two floors up, and I reckon it would be > pretty easy to drop cable into the upstairs room, but then getting it > down another fl

Re: Tricky Cat-5 Wiring

2009-12-22 Thread Dave Smith
>> is >> about 5 years old. Some of the rooms have cat-5 wiring, but others >> don't. One such room is the office on the middle story, where I want >> to run some cat-5 (there are so many Wi-Fi networks in the vicinity >> that my bandwidth stinks). I have cat-5 in t

Re: Tricky Cat-5 Wiring

2009-12-22 Thread Scott Jones
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > I know this is somewhat off topic, but then again, what isn't on Plug? > > I live in a 3-story house with all three floors finished. The house is > about 5 years old. Some of the rooms have cat-5 wiring, but others > don

Re: Tricky Cat-5 Wiring

2009-12-22 Thread Joseph Hall
I live in a 3-story house with all three floors finished. The house is > about 5 years old. Some of the rooms have cat-5 wiring, but others > don't. One such room is the office on the middle story, where I want > to run some cat-5 (there are so many Wi-Fi networks in the vicinity > th

Tricky Cat-5 Wiring

2009-12-22 Thread Dave Smith
I know this is somewhat off topic, but then again, what isn't on Plug? I live in a 3-story house with all three floors finished. The house is about 5 years old. Some of the rooms have cat-5 wiring, but others don't. One such room is the office on the middle story, where I want t

Re: networking thru electrical wiring

2007-11-02 Thread Dave Smith
Mike Beal wrote: Never tried this, but looking into it now. Does anyone have experience with using existing electrical wiring for networking? For example, what about this device from CDW: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1022048 My company has a town house that uses this

Re: networking thru electrical wiring

2007-11-02 Thread Steve
It's called HPNA, and it's great if you have good wiring in your home. And WiFI doesn't work because your inside walls are made of chicken wire which makes your home a faraday cage as opposed to sheetrock which seems to allow WiFi signals to pass through them ok. However all device

networking thru electrical wiring

2007-11-02 Thread Mike Beal
Never tried this, but looking into it now. Does anyone have experience with using existing electrical wiring for networking? For example, what about this device from CDW: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1022048 Thanks, Mike /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net