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How do we resolve this backdoor issue.  Not everyone has the time or expertise to roll their own. I'd love to do LFS however I do not currently have the time. Keith Smith --- On Thu, 6/6/13, Nathan England wrote: From: Nathan England Subject: Re: OT: NSA story ke

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The Federal Government is not going to go quietly.  The Gov may get to the point of stopping you from "checking out" of their game. Did you know a judge ruled you cannot eat anything you grow without the Gov's permission? If they do not like what you are doing they can just put you in a FEMA

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I visited thrivemovement.com and I like "Top Ten Actions".  I did not dig beyond that. I think one thing is missing - God.  We have removed God from almost every aspect of our American lives to include most churches. God simply says in 2 Chronicles 7:14     if my people, who are called by my n

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Okay, I may be feeding the trolls, but I have to ask: Is there a link to this SELinux is a backdoor thread? I mean it is open source and the source code has been read by many people inside the US and out. Is it just "the NSA wrote it so it must" type of thing? In my experience the only backdoo

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Would RedHat come out in the open and announce that selinux is a backdoor for the NSA? No, that would eliminate their OS. Everyone would dump them, Fedora also, in droves! Honestly, I said it originally with tongue firmly in cheek, but I do have my suspicions. The NSA has some of the best

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Not having been a tinfoil hat guy, I have been changing the way I do some things and deleting various accounts that I don't use or don't trust. Mostly in a reaction to this plus some other things that I've been learning. I'm also wondering if there's a way to become a security/privacy/rights advoc

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Welcome to the tinfoil hat club!! Keith Smith --- On Fri, 6/7/13, josh wrote: From: josh Subject: Re: OT: NSA story keeps getting bigger... To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Friday, June 7, 2013, 11:03 AM Not having been a tinfoil hat guy, I have been changi

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I just received a phone call from a friend who began talking with this announcement: "As we speak, please keep in mind that the NSA is recording, scrutinizing, and analyzing every word." Sadly, it seems that is the inescapable reality of the world that we now live in: every phone call, every text

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All, On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:03 AM, josh wrote: > > Not having been a tinfoil hat guy, I have been changing the way I do some > things and deleting various accounts that I don't use or don't trust. > Mostly in a reaction to this plus some other things that I've been > learning. I'm also wonder

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The lack of privacy is only the first step. Next comes identifying and targeting of political enemies based on nothing more than their associations. Daniel On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM, wrote: > I just received a phone call from a friend > who began talking with this announcement: > > "As

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On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 07:21:20AM -0700, keith smith wrote: > > > The Federal Government is not going to go quietly.  The Gov may get to the > point of stopping you from "checking out" of their game. > > Did you know a judge ruled you cannot eat anything you grow without the Gov's > permissio

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If you really want to keep the tinfoil hat on, lets add that all Medical records will be online and the government will have access to them. With the latest supreme court ruling that its lawful to collect DNA at time of arrest having access to medical records is not much of a reach. Richard On

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Where have you been? Obama is already doing that with the IRS... On Friday, June 07, 2013 12:50:39 PM Daniel Stasinski wrote: The lack of privacy is only the first step. Next comes identifying and targeting of political enemies based on nothing more than their associations. Daniel O

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Hey look. I trimmed! On Friday, June 07, 2013 12:38:38 PM Robert Holtzman wrote: > And the right wing FUD machine rolls on. BTW learn to trim. > > ...large snip of material that should have been trimmed. In reality I should have trimmed your whole asenine comment. What plane

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Please explain how 1) fast and furious, 2) benghazi, 3) IRS - abusing conservatives, 4) holder AP Scandal 5) verizon scandal are right wing FUD? Lets add into that the black panthers voter intimidation issue and the Justice department and the FBI publicizing that if you say anything disparaging

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That's exactly what I'm saying. But this makes it even easier. The IRS could only target specific people who self-identified by filling out paperwork. Now others can branch off and go after all of their friends, family, business associates, places they frequent, etc. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:

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[snippage] FWIW, the EFF is getting rather annoyed about this story too, and they actually have some experience in yelling at public officials. One of the things they suggested: - Tell your elected officials that you object to this mass domestic spying program. Demand that they initiate

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I happened to work for a small medical clinic in Douglas for a year and a half. You think this requiresa tinfoil hat? You are naieve my friend. The entire program is funded by the government through grants to small clinics and hospitals. The programs require the software creators to provide

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BO hired some techies to use facebook to identify who was on the fence and might vote for him.  How hard would it be to scrub facebook and other Internet sites to gather info? Oh and he is the Federal Government and he has had our personal info forever. U.S. Congresswoman Maxine Waters http://

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That is a very good point Daniel. The IRS can only target people who are self- identified... But haven't these articles shown the government is into facebook? And didn't someone just announce a couple months ago that using likes and dislikes along with social connections facebook can predict

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If We The People, start demanding our Gov follow the U.S.Constitution, everything will fall into order. Keith Smith --- On Fri, 6/7/13, Matt Graham wrote: From: Matt Graham Subject: Re: OT: NSA story keeps getting bigger... To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Date:

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Yeah, and I hear that John McCain is so eager to listen to his constituents. Unless you have $500 bucks to go to dinner with him. And even then, you aren't allowed to ask questions. Our congress is worthless. Contacting them won't do anything. They won't listen. Remember, they needed to pa

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For what its worth, this started before Obama, before Bush. They both are equally bad at it. Its not a left/right issue. Is an issue for everyone. but don't take my word for it: https://www.schneier.com/essay-418.html Eric On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Nathan England wrote: > ** > > > > > T

hosts file

Hi all, With the explosion of privacy issues lately, I am working on compiling a list of entries for my hosts file.Its time we get these people out of our lives. I'll be blacklisting these on my router as well. Anyone else have anything to add? 127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com 127.0.0.1 goo

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Absolute;y, but the scope was intended to be smaller. Intentions aren't worth crap. Give this kind of power to a Chicago mobster style politician and it's only a matter of time before it's used as a weapon. “If you let me write procedure and I let you write substance, I'll screw you every time.”

Re: hosts file

I use ghostery, adblock plus, and no(t)script - blocks most of anything nefarious through the browsers. Android adblockers tend to dump things like adblock eazylist into a hosts file to do that, only they're more comprehensive and up to date with "bad" sites. I'd start with those vs. building

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Bush was bad no doubt.  And I have my issues with Bush.  BO is much worse. I keep hearing that Bush did it. That is an excuse and an attempt at a distraction.  BO is now the Prez.  When does he start taking responsibility?  It is always someone else fault!! Just because Bush did somethings wro

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At 12:50 PM 6/7/2013, Daniel Stasinski wrote: The lack of privacy is only the first step.  Next comes identifying and targeting of political enemies based on nothing more than their associations. Uhhh, can you say IRS? Daniel On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM, wrote: I jus

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This phone call might be monitored or recorded for quality assurance by the NSA, IRS...   Keith Smith --- On Fri, 6/7/13, Lyle Tuttle wrote: From: Lyle Tuttle Subject: Re: OT: NSA story keeps getting bigger... To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Friday, June

Re: write on a pdf

Sorry Lisa about my non eco friendly comment. WOW Brian. You are so right about MAste PDF Editor. It is so easy. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Mike-ster, my friend, > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > >> actually I guess it is

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At 01:11 PM 6/7/2013, Richard Daggett wrote: If you really want to keep the tinfoil hat on, lets add that all Medical records will be online and the government will have access to them.  I think your hat slipped down over your eyes and ears..med records are already more on-line than most kno

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At 01:40 PM 6/7/2013, Nathan England wrote: That assumes the constitution is still the supreme law of the land. Does the federal government even have a copy of it anymore? They haven't followed it for years! Sorry Keith, but I think we are beyond that. Can you say "Agenda 21"?  Heard of it?  Do

Re: hosts file

A little FYI, especially for the noobs: I use the HOSTS file from the Microsoft guru - it's huge - about 550k and 15,000+ lines - updated regularly at least every 2 months. It includes variations of the short list below and URLs you would never think of. It's available FREE from the blog, h

Re: hosts file

Search for "unwanted parasites" with your favorite search engine. On 06/07/2013 04:59 PM, Eric Cope wrote: Hi all, With the explosion of privacy issues lately, I am working on compiling a list of entries for my hosts file.Its time we get these people out of our lives. I'll be blacklisting thes

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It's not over til the fat lady sings. Keith Smith --- On Fri, 6/7/13, Lyle Tuttle wrote: From: Lyle Tuttle Subject: Re: OT: NSA story keeps getting bigger... To: nat...@nmecs.com, "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Friday, June 7, 2013, 2:32 PM At 01:40 PM 6/7/20

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https://www.burnerphone.us/ On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:52 PM, keith smith wrote: > > It's not over til the fat lady sings. > > > > Keith Smith > > --- On *Fri, 6/7/13, Lyle Tuttle * wrote: > > > From: Lyle Tuttle > Subject: Re: OT: NSA story keeps getting bigger... > To:

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Another snip, this is actually an interesting response given out conversation http://googleblog.blogspot.com/ and thanks for the link on burnerphone. that is indeed interesting. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subs

Re: hosts file

I am dissappointed! I thought for sure the first line was going to be a joke about politicians or something! I guess it's just that kind of day today. Thanks for the hosts file ideas. I have my script running ! On Friday, June 07, 2013 05:50:23 PM coverturtle wrote: Search for "unwanted

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its also [almost] word for word the same as Zuckerbergs. https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10100828955847631 on a similar note, its not far fetched that they would be legally required to deny access, like an NSL... I think 3rd party auditors would calm fears too. Eric On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at

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Tinfoil hat on. Then they ship it via the USPS, which is the official government parcel tracking system, right? As if UPS and FedEX are not already? Since they are all working together now anyway. Why not go to walmart and buy a cheap phone and a 30 day card? It's cheaper than the 75 buck

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http://gawker.com/5119039/google-execs-pay-15-for-obama-bash Another snip, this is actually an interesting response given out conversation http://googleblog.blogspot.com/[1] and thanks for the link on burnerphone. that is indeed interesting. [1] http://googleblog.blogspot.

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Yeah, no doubt. He wouldn't stick up for his buddy? The guy he supports? Or because of legal reasons? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnPI7B7ZS9M http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13151889 http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/rick-newman/2013/01/24/what-mark-zuckerberg-and-chris-christie-ha

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I spoke too soon! I didn't even see this article yet! http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/woman-arrested-for-obama-bloomberg-ricin-letters-687435 On Friday, June 07, 2013 03:35:47 PM Nathan England wrote: Tinfoil hat on. Then they ship it via the USPS, which is the official governmen

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LOL you said it now.   Yikes Cash!!  Most probably don't know that the Gov sent out letters asking people to report others who use CASH amongst innocuous behavior. Keith Smith --- On Fri, 6/7/13, Nathan England wrote: From: Nathan England Subject: Re: OT: NSA stor

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I'd like to see Verizon and any other company forced by government to hand over customer records do the following. Figure out how much it will cost the company to comply. Divide that figure by the number of customers the add it to their bills. On each bill explain that the new charge is how m

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The next time you watch or listen to the news, It won't be long before you'll hear something like this: A police spokesman said officers searched the suspect's home and found 25 pounds of pot as well as several thousand dollars in cash. The way they talk about the cash implies the possession o

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/7/2013 6:23 PM, Derek Trotter wrote: > The next time you watch or listen to the news, It won't be long > before you'll hear something like this: A police spokesman said > officers searched the suspect's home and found 25 pounds of pot as > well as

Re: OT: NSA story keeps getting bigger... VIDEO - Really funny

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm sorry, but this was too funny. It cannot be racist because it was okay'd by the Leno joke writers, but it is hilarious! http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/06/07/leno-heck-big-brother-obama-we-actually-have-brother-watching-us#ixzz2VX

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What I find frustrating is the number of people in retail who can't identify American money. A couple of days ago I went to a Burger King and paid with some dollar coins and a half dollar. The girl took them, looked and went to the back presumably to ask what they were or if she could accept

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/7/2013 9:25 PM, Derek Trotter wrote: > What I find frustrating is the number of people in retail who > can't identify American money. A couple of days ago I went to a > Burger King and paid with some dollar coins and a half dollar. The > girl to

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On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Daniel Stasinski wrote: > The lack of privacy is only the first step. Next comes identifying and > targeting of political enemies based on nothing more than their > associations. > or their social network. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmmWS3E8ciE Keith +