Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-23 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Reclaiming water from the sewer: The $1BN Megaproject to Save California: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lpYVi2OkwQ On 2024-06-23 06:24, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: In Tucson there is a park named "Randolph Park". It is about a square

Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-23 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
In Tucson there is a park named "Randolph Park". It is about a square mile in size. They water the park with reclaimed water. It does have a slight odor to it. Yikes!! I like my coffee with the slight odor of recycle..Yummy!!! Ok, so I am a Christian and in the Bible God says to subdue

Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-23 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Yikes!! On 2024-06-23 05:57, Jim via PLUG-discuss wrote: Thanks for reminding me of George Carlin's Things to watch out for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwEKx1P7AOA On 6/22/24 19:49, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: Thomas Scott via PLUG-discuss said on Sat, 22 Jun 2024 09:05:35 -0400

Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-23 Thread Jim via PLUG-discuss
Water can be made fit to drink again.  I'm reminded of the joke that says:  What do they make today's coffee with on the space station?  Yesterday's coffee. On 6/22/24 06:36, Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss wrote: Can water for agricultural use be reclaimed? Other than it eventually making its

Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-23 Thread Jim via PLUG-discuss
Thanks for reminding me of George Carlin's Things to watch out for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwEKx1P7AOA On 6/22/24 19:49, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: Thomas Scott via PLUG-discuss said on Sat, 22 Jun 2024 09:05:35 -0400 Long term - I don't think the growth curve AZ is on is

Re: VERY OT, DO NOT READ THIS! (wind power, was Re: OT Humidity, was time off) Do not read, do not follow up! ;-)

2024-06-22 Thread Matthew Crews via PLUG-discuss
Apologies as I meant to include this, but I used the wrong reply-to address, which bounced it from PLUG. Here is the article. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-02089-2 I don't know if the wind power we are capable of collecting is sufficient enough to alter weather patterns, but

Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-22 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
Thomas Scott via PLUG-discuss said on Sat, 22 Jun 2024 09:05:35 -0400 >Long term - I don't think the growth curve AZ is on is sustainable >without burying the water transport (converting canals to pipes) to >avoid evaporation from the exposed surface, but that has it's own set >of issues as well.

Re: VERY OT, DO NOT READ THIS! (wind power, was Re: OT Humidity, was time off) Do not read, do not follow up! ;-)

2024-06-22 Thread Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
And the cities we have built? the changes have already been made in some places. On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 5:45 PM Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Matthew Crews had an interesting reference, which I skimmed. Apparently > there is a 6% change in a

Re: VERY OT, DO NOT READ THIS! (wind power, was Re: OT Humidity, was time off) Do not read, do not follow up! ;-)

2024-06-22 Thread Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss
Matthew Crews had an interesting reference, which I skimmed. Apparently there is a 6% change in a non-trivial distance downwind from the wind farm.  If my skimming was accurate, that was measured difference, but the simulation apparently was similar.  (But now we've gotten beyond my skimming

Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-22 Thread Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss
Can water for agricultural use be reclaimed? Other than it eventually making its way back into the water table? Water could also be recycled/treated such that it's good for agricultural use but not for consumption, which I imagine would be cheaper than fully reclaiming the water, which could

Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-22 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
I'm hoping that all those business that are growing warehouses along I-10/303 and the Taiwan chip maker (TSMC) have all done their due diligence and there is a reasonable expectation that we will have water for a long while. How's that for sticking my head into the sand. On 2024-06-22

Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-22 Thread Thomas Scott via PLUG-discuss
> It's all FUD. If anything, agricultural land uses more water than residential > land, and agricultural land is what's getting converted to residential. So > every acre converted means less water use. This is not a typical LUG convo, but this one really peaked my interest. I grew up around the

Re: VERY OT, DO NOT READ THIS! (wind power, was Re: OT Humidity, was time off) Do not read, do not follow up! ;-)

2024-06-21 Thread George Toft via PLUG-discuss
Pump up the noise! Whereas megawatts of power is being removed from the kinetic energy of the wind, how much of the total is it? How wide is the wind, and how high, compared to the size of the wind farm? The windmills remove some fraction of a percent. I think this qualifies as "a gnat's fart

Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-21 Thread Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss
Hey guys, Actually, our current lack of water (and the current drought were in), as part of a 550 year-long cycle. This particular cycle started somewhere between 1982 and 1986 with one of the driest years we had, sometime in the last 10 years. And yes, this heat wave that we’re suffering

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2024-06-21 Thread Rusty Carruth via PLUG-discuss
Ok, we are SO FAR off-topic that I shouldn't say anything, and I apologize for adding to the noise! However, I have one comment.  For many years I was a BIG fan of wind power. Now, however, I've realized that nobody has calculated the effect of removing MEGAWATTS of power from the wind. 

Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-21 Thread George Toft via PLUG-discuss
"Coming lack of water" is going to be handled by zero-waste. 100% recycling all waste water. Think about that for a minute... yes, all that water that is flushed down the sewer will be reclaimed and recycled into potable water. Unimaginable? Google: Toilet to tap. And yes, your cities are

Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-21 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
Interesting topic. I wonder how it will workout. I read an article last year about a couple in Tucson that are capturing rain water and that was enough to supply their needs. I did some research and there is a formula based on roof space and rain fall that will determine the amount of water

Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-20 Thread Matthew Crews via PLUG-discuss
On 6/20/24 6:16 AM, Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss wrote: And what are you guys going to do about the coming lack of water? It's all FUD. If anything, agricultural land uses more water than residential land, and agricultural land is what's getting converted to residential. So every acre

Re: OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-20 Thread Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss
> How do you like the 115 degree days? It's bearable; at least I'm not sitting in a pool of my own sweat. > And what are you guys going to do about the coming lack of water? It's all FUD. If anything, agricultural land uses more water than residential land, and agricultural land is what's

OT Humidity, was time off

2024-06-20 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss said on Thu, 20 Jun 2024 04:05:30 -0700 >I lived in Florida for ~10 years myself, in the Ft. Walton >Beach/Navarre/Pensacola areas, and got my degree there at UWF. >Sometimes I wish I were still there but I'm enjoying the non-humidity >of Arizona for now. How do you

Re: time off

2024-06-20 Thread Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss
Glad it worked! I lived in Florida for ~10 years myself, in the Ft. Walton Beach/Navarre/Pensacola areas, and got my degree there at UWF. Sometimes I wish I were still there but I'm enjoying the non-humidity of Arizona for now. On Wed, Jun 19, 2024, at 8:01 PM, Michael wrote: > Thanks, it

Re: time off

2024-06-19 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
Thanks, it worked. As for the time zone: Yep, I'm on the East coast. I was introduced to Linux in 97ish when I lived in Phoenix. When I moved to Florida I just kinda hung on to PLUG. On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 10:07 AM Ryan Petris wrote: > Try running: > > timedatectl set-ntp on > > If that fails,

Re: time off

2024-06-19 Thread Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss
Try running: timedatectl set-ntp on If that fails, I assume you're on a debian system, in which case you probably need to install timesyncd: apt install systemd-timesyncd then try running the above command again. ...additionally it says EDT; are you on the east cost? If you're in Phoenix,

time off

2024-06-19 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss
The time is now about 10am here. I ran timedatectl and it says: RTC time: Sun 2050-06-19 00:04:01 but my clock says the correct date but that it is about 21:00. Why won't the time sync? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: alex@alex-desktop:~$ timedatectl Local time: Wed 2024-06-19