A response below (bottom posted ;)
[snipped]
> ... I took my wife to
> the ER and the charge was $3054.00 for the hospital and the doctor wanted
> $665. She received a doctor's assessment, 3 xrays, and antibiotic, and a
> tetanus shot. We were there for an hour and 15 minutes max. I was
> expe
Joe, is greed the problem, or the ability to coerce?
Eric
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:51 PM, wrote:
>
> A response below (bottom posted ;)
>
> [snipped]
> > ... I took my wife to
> > the ER and the charge was $3054.00 for the hospital and the doctor wanted
> > $665. She received a doctor's assess
...@actionline.com wrote:
From: j...@actionline.com
Subject: OT: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 - the unfixable problem.
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 5:51 PM
A response below (bottom posted ;)
[snipped]
> ... I took my wife to
> the ER and the charge was
Eric Cope wrote:
> ... is greed the problem, or the ability to coerce?
Not sure I understand that question correctly.
But I don't think there is a difference.
Would it not be true that the ability to coerce is driven
and enabled by all the lobbiests who lobby as agents for
the greedy?
Its my current view that we all have desires that stem from greed; the
desire to offer our services for as high a price as possible AND to desire
other's services for as low a prices as possible. We can't wish these
results, but must participate in the market to get as close to these desires
as wil
Responses interspersed below:
> Its my current view that we all have desires that stem from greed
I don't think this is a correct observation.
Surely it is not a true statement that "we ... *all* ... have desires
that stem from greed"
There are enormous numbers of people who are assuredly *not
Would you limit greed to the pursuit of money, or would you consider the
pursuit of other goals, not necessarily wealth based "greed"? Who defines
excessive?
Eric
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:48 PM, wrote:
>
> Responses interspersed below:
>
> > Its my current view that we all have desires that s
> Would you limit greed to the pursuit of money, or would you consider the
> pursuit of other goals, not necessarily wealth based "greed"? Who defines
> excessive?
Well, gluttony certainly is, by definition, another example of greed that
has little or nothing to do with money. The extent of obes
ible
- it has become all about them.
I think CostCo is much better however they need to be watched because they are
trying to be less employee oriented.
Keith Smith
--- On Mon, 8/30/10, j...@actionline.com wrote:
From: j...@actionline.com
Subject: Re: OT: Plug
Greed is not all about Money. For example, having an extramarital affair is
about greed.
Keith Smith
--- On Mon, 8/30/10, Eric Cope wrote:
From: Eric Cope
Subject: Re: OT: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 - the unfixable problem.
To: "Main PLUG discussion list&q
>
> "Excessive" is when the pursuit of maximizing profits and wealth harms
> others or totally ignores the needs of others.
>
Can you point to a market transaction where one's needs are ignored? Who's
responsibility is it to ensure one's needs are met? is it the buyer or the
seller?
When governme
ee oriented.
>
> --------
> Keith Smith
>
>
> --- On *Mon, 8/30/10, j...@actionline.com * wrote:
>
>
> From: j...@actionline.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 - the unfixable problem.
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
>
> I would say Wal-mart is a great example of true greed.
Keith, I'm really sorry that you seem to have such a hateful attitude
toward Walmart. I don't want to pick a fight with you my good friend,
but I do feel it's important to clarify a couple things.
You asserted:
> They require tax cuts to b
d.
Just because a leftist film maker makes a documentary, does not make it a lie.
Keith Smith
--- On Mon, 8/30/10, j...@actionline.com wrote:
From: j...@actionline.com
Subject: Re: OT: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 - the unfixable problem.
To: "Main PLUG discussion l
, does not make it a
> lie.
>
> ----------------
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Mon, 8/30/10, j...@actionline.com * wrote:
>
>
> From: j...@actionline.com
> Subject: Re: OT: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 - the unfixable problem.
> To: "Main PLUG discus
With government subsidies in place do we have a truly free market?
Keith Smith
--- On Mon, 8/30/10, Eric Cope wrote:
From: Eric Cope
Subject: Re: OT: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 - the unfixable problem.
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Monday,
5:18 PM, keith smith wrote:
>
> With government subsidies in place do we have a truly free market?
>
>
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Mon, 8/30/10, Eric Cope * wrote:
>
>
> From: Eric Cope
>
> Subject: Re: OT: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 04:10:22PM -0600, j...@actionline.com wrote:
>
> > I would say Wal-mart is a great example of true greed.
>
> Keith, I'm really sorry that you seem to have such a hateful attitude
> toward Walmart. I don't want to pick a fight with you my good friend,
> but I do feel it's
At 09:17 PM 8/30/2010, you wrote:
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 04:10:22PM -0600, j...@actionline.com wrote:
>
> > I would say Wal-mart is a great example of true greed.
Greed??
Consider this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A ---
PLUG-di
s attached when government gets involved.
Lets come together as a community and solve this problem.
Keith Smith
--- On Mon, 8/30/10, j...@actionline.com wrote:
From: j...@actionline.com
Subject: Re: OT: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 - the unfixable problem.
To: "Mai
quo
Keith Smith
--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
From: Lyle Tuttle
Subject: Re: OT: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 - the unfixable problem.
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 6:21 AM
At 09:17 PM 8/30/2010, you wrot
That's well said and absolutely true :)
Self interest runs the world and for the most part is a good thing because
it motivates people to do more than the minimum required, to create great
innovations, and find ways to be the most efficient. This has been an
interesting conversation (at least it h
perverted and is now using dependency for its own
political gain. There are strings attached when government gets involved.
Lets come together as a community and solve this problem.
Keith Smith
--- On Mon, 8/30/10, j...@actionline.com wrote:
From: j...@actionline.c
At 06:49 AM 8/31/2010, you wrote:
That's well said and absolutely true :)
Self interest runs the world and for the most part is a good thing
because it motivates people to do more than the minimum required, to
create great innovations, and find ways to be the most
efficient. This has been an
, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
From: Lyle Tuttle
Subject: Re: OT: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 - the unfixable problem.
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 6:52 AM
At 06:38 AM 8/31/2010, you wrote:
This has been a good discussion
in that it has helped me unders
.
Keith Smith
--- On Tue, 8/31/10, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
From: Lyle Tuttle
Subject: Re: OT: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 - the unfixable problem.
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 6:52 AM
At 06:38 AM 8/31/2010, you wrote:
This has been a good dis
>
>
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On Sun, 8/29/10, j...@actionline.com wrote:
>
> From: j...@actionline.com
> Subject: OT: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 - the unfixable problem.
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
> Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010
Keith wrote (in part)
> This has been a good discussion in that it has helped me understand
> why I think Wal-Mart is a cancer.
[snipped]
> Let's start at the most fundamental point. As a Christian I believe
> we are part of the community. I believe we are blessed to bless.
> In other words we s
This thread needs to end. It's so far off topic that it has nothing
whatsoever to do with Linux/FOSS. It's devolved into religion and
politics and can go nowhere good from here.
If you would like to continue to discuss it, please take it off the
list, but I suggest you just drop it entirely
: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 - the unfixable problem.
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 11:15 AM
This thread needs to end. It's so far off topic that it has nothing whatsoever
to do with Linux/FOSS. It's devolved into religion and politics
//* wrote:
From: Brian Cluff
Subject: Re: OT: Plug Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 - the unfixable
problem.
To: "Main PLUG discussion list"
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 11:15 AM
This thread needs to end. It's so far off topic that it has
nothing w
Josef Lowder. He has been
> the voice of reason in my life several times and in getting to know Josef, I
> know he only intends good.
>
>
>
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Tue, 8/31/10, Brian Cluff
> *wrote:
>
>
> From: Brian Cluff
> S
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