Those aren't the build option I meant. Mplayer has a huge number of
options and the ones listed are just broad categories and not the more
fundamental ones whuich in turn set the defaults on output.
I google the issue and it has popped up a few times over the years so it
looks like a side
NPR has changed the website and the plugin needs to be updated to make
it work properly again.
Since the plugin was developed, other internet streams and sirtes have
become available. Since there has been no complaints (i.e. no users)
after NPR changed their website, I didn't put any effort in
OK - I'll have a look at what has changed on NPR side and see if plugin
can be fixed.
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PaulBens wrote:
Funktioniert das Plugin auch mit LMS 7.8.1 auf Sheevaplug-Basis? Habe es
bis jetzt noch nicht hinbekommen. Rippen mit abcde funktioniert.
I haven't tested CDplayer with 7.8.1.
The plugin needs cdda2wav to work as it handles all CD drive actions -
you need a copy of cdda2wav
JJZolx wrote:
I haven't read through the entire thread, so my apologies if this has
already been suggested...
My server is headless, located in an out-of-the-way spot and doesn't
have a CD player. What would be really convenient would be if you could
play a CD on another PC on the
danco wrote:
Until recently BBC iPlayer worked fine on my SB. But for the last few
days it rebuffers so often that the streams are unlistenable
Does rebuffering happen with just live streams or just Listen Again
or both ?
What format (http/AAC. Flash/AAC, WMA or MP3) are you listening to
tfec wrote:
The CPU is a 1.6GHz Marvelll 6282 with 256MB DDR3 and server and
Squeezebox are bound via GBit LAN, must be fast enough
IIRC The 6282 is a ARMv5te processor which has no floating point (it has
special DSP instructions).
I can't remember ShairTunes details and what audio formats
Are you uising the BBCiPlayer Applet on a a touch / Radio ?
If so then it looks like BBC has changed something and broken the
applet. Otherwise The LMS iPlayer plugin works OK
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castalla wrote:
This might explain something: ''Essentially the BBC have changed to a
system where you can use a single link in the format
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/4/asx/version pid/ to get the
appropriate ASX file (automatically geocoded for either the UK or
overseas).
Man in a van wrote:
Just started to listen to Farming Today from this morning. everything
seems to be OK. The list is in Correct order too.
Are you using the applet or the plugin ?
Are you in the UK or outside the UK ?
Man in a van wrote:
In the UK. Using Triode's plugin on LMS v7.7.3 on a LIV Wave streamer.
The problem is only with the Touch/Radio BBCiPlayer Applet - not with
the BBC IPlayer plugin.
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Man in a van wrote:
Just tried with my Squeezebox Radio at a different location and I can
play without a problem using the Applet..
What format have you chosen to use with the Applet - it is 2nd lasst
item on main BBC iPlayer Aplet Menu Stream
Does it work with WMA and/or Highest Bitrate ?
Man in a van wrote:
This is the stream URL with AAC set as first choice, (top line of
choices)
If you are using the applet - there is no top line - it is all on the
Touch menu - the choices are Higherst Bitrate, AAC/MP3 and WMA
If you are using a Web GUI - then you are using the Plugin and
The URLs used by the applet will begin spdr://. The URLs originating
from the plugin will begin iplayer://. Playing an URL on the touch
beginning weoith iplayer invokes rthe BBC iPlayer plugin.
The menu I refer to on the Radio is under the BBC Radio menu which
starts with Listen Live. Go to
SuffolkPunch wrote:
Since about Monday 12th May it seems that programs take much longer to
get into the BBC iPlayer listings. Now I have to wait until next day!
This seems to apply to radio 3 and 4 and possible others. What is odd,
is that at about 9am, the stuff I never listen to _is_ there
IanCHC wrote:
I now never see In our time and nothing much shows up after 19:45pm. I
haven't been able to listen to the world tonight except a live. the
missing programs don't show up even when I look under program title
rather than by day of week. Lots of other pogroms don't seem to
IanCHC wrote:
Thank you.
As this has been a problem now for many weeks (more than a month) it
sounds systematic rather than a one off error. Is there any contact at
the BBC we can nudge? I tried an e-mail address in an earlier thread
but had no response.
A few years ago BBC cut off all
mberger wrote:
Is anyone else having problems with Listen Again? Since yesterday
afternoon almost all programmes have been returning the message 'Can't
open file for...' Occasionally a programme will play but then not if I
try again ten minutes later. Live streams are fine, and I'm wondering
You haven't given any detail about your setup in particular what sort of
player and assuming that LMS has moved from a Dell server to a Pi
server.
The allow transcoding fix is only applicable to players which do not
have native AAC playing and support WMA natively.
If you are using a
BBC main format is AAC either in HTTP or Flash and AAC needs transcoding
for the older players such as SB3/Classic and Boom.
When you prevent transcoding - the iplayer plugin gets the WMA stream
and then the player will player it direct from BBC - server does nothing
not even passing audio toi
At the start of the last BBC outage, one user reported the can't open
file type of error.
I suggest turn on BBCiPlayer logging and LMS transcoding logging
(player.source) to check if something has failed in your LMS setup
castalla wrote:
Hints on where to enable the logging please!
WebUI Settings/Advanced/Logging.
Set plugin.bbciplayer to INFO and also player.source to INFO and then
click Apply
Note time, Then try to play a BBC station, wait to get the error message
and then clear the playlist to stop player.
I don't know what formats Squeezeplay supports natively.
From the log - it looks like Squeezeplay doesn't support AAC natively so
LMS is trying to to transcode from AAC to Flac (Touch supports AAC
natively so no transcode).
Code:
[14-07-30 22:05:37.2578]
If the exact same stream works OK on a Touch through the same LMS - it
means the stream is OK and the Flash processing (either on LMS or in
Touch) is OK and so would indicate that somehting is wrong with
transcoding - a first step would be to check that the two apps
castalla wrote:
Both commands return - no such file or directory. Yet, both faad and
flac are listed in the directory
try a ls -l /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin to see full details on the
files such as executable, permission, owner and whether the files are
real or a link.
castalla wrote:
Using the same server but with squeezelite. I can access the BBC stream
without problems. Looks like it's a squeezeplay on windows issue ?
Squeezelite has a native aac decoder just like Touch. The issue is seems
to be LMS transcoding.
Weird that LMS log shows that
Strange that when you ran the commands
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/faad -?
and
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac -?
you got a no such file or directory response since the files are
there and permissions look OK.
I can't think why it doesn't work - maybe it's a
Mnyb wrote:
Maybe you can test if transcoding works at all on the server play a
normal AAC file *.m4a on the SqueezePlay player ?
The log has already shown that LMS is getting as far as starting
transcoding processes. The only difference using a file vs iPlayer
plugin (which has stripped
OK - final idea on this aspect. Can you list the directory with the
-b option to ls to show non graphic chars in filenames.
ls -lb /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux
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ldd /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac
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Looks like you have a very cut down Linux and don't have the file
command.
Can you load the file command ?
Can you install the binutils package and get a readelf utility ?
Not sure if strace is installed but could you try
strace /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux/flac
strace will
castalla wrote:
Just tried on an old raspi with squeezeplug - no problems playing the
BBC streams.
Which of these directories exist on the pi and on the ibox
/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf
/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi
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My Pi has Arch and it runs hard float and I have used readelf to look at
executables and AFAICT the LMS 7.8 supplied faad is a soft-float build.
Most Pis now run hard float and so my guess is the problem is the LMS
flac and faad build are somehow incompatible with the IBOX distro and
or
Sorry but I think using readelf may not help fix the problem. It may
help to pin down the exact incompatibility but is it necessary as it
seems clear that the faad and flac executables are incompatible with the
Debian on IBOX.
I think the quickest solution would be build a version of faad and
castalla wrote:
Just to recap then: I'm looking for armv7 builds of the faad and flac
binaries???
Not quite so simple. The faad and flac for LMS have been patched to
work with LMS to accept stdin as a source so build from repositories
won''t work - you need a build from another LMS A20
castalla wrote:
Bingo!
Both run
Good.
You can now replace the ones in
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux by these new ones making sure
permission owner etc are all the same as the old ones and then retest
transcoding
AFAICT the difference is the support of hardware floating point
To run from a directory not on the path you need to do - add -? just
to make they generate output
./flac -?
./faad -?
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and faad that are in the archive to see if they run at shell prompt.
http://homepage.eircom.net/~altondsl/files/armv7lbinaries.tar.gz
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TheLastMan wrote:
Not sure what is wrong, or if it is fixable, but the app now shows only
between a quarter to half of all the programs broadcast during a day and
then often not for several hours after the official iPlayer web site.
It is now 5pm and the Radio 4 listing ends at 11:30am
TheLastMan wrote:
For instance I wanted to listen to the Today Program at around 1pm
today, found it on iPlayer Extras listed under Saturday, and it was the
Saturday 26 July edition.
The extras plugin gets its program infro from the web site so it should
be up to date.
What menu are you
TheLastMan wrote:
I will try using Extras - National Radio Schedule for the time being and
see if I get the same problem with buffering. All other radio stations
and Spotify (Triode's app) work fine so it has definitely been a BBC
problem.
Extras has nothing to do with playback - it is
IIRC the synology DS111 prcoessor has not got good floating point so it
wopuld ne best to use for transcoding AAC.
With the Duets and synology or Pi as a server - use WMA service.
Squeezelite would be OK with AAC so choosing iPlayer no transcoding
setting should be the best compromise.
The BBC
TheLastMan wrote:
The surprising thing is that it works fine for every program on the list
that is available. It seems that on the Extras national listing in the
UK there is no delay in getting the WMA stream, it is there at the same
time as the AAC one. I am able to play a program that was
I can'rt remember my perl very well but the compiler is flagging line
245 of Plugin.pm and you seem to be running an oldish version of Perl
Code:
my $clen = $req-header('content-length') // 0;
// means Logical OR but in older versions of
mentos wrote:
sudo service avahi-daemon restart
Shutting down Avahi daemon: Failed to kill daemon: No such file or
directory
[FAILED]
Starting Avahi daemon... Invalid configuration key publish-a-on-ipv6
in group publish
[FAILED]
Could this be another version issue ?
What OS and
mentos wrote:
Also checked messages and provided I comment out those two entries in
the conf file Avahi seems to start up ok.
I did a check on the avahi-daemon source source - the
publish-a-on-ipv6 is in 0.6.30 but not in 0.6.16
mentos wrote:
Thank you so much.
Its strange, as the conf file in the avahi directory had
publish--on-ipv4 and publish-a-on-ipv6, it was just commented
out. Thats why I didn't think to check if it was supported in my version
(otherwise why would it be in the conf file). I'll have to
mentos wrote:
Oh dear :(
I updated perl using yum and appear to have broken the SBS :(
Starting Squeezebox Server: Attempt to free unreferenced scalar: SV
0x9a7ce9c, Perl interpreter: 0x99ad008 at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/FindBin.pm line 101.
bash: line 1: 3668 Segmentation fault
What is in the log file when you enable plugin.shairplay to DEBUG ?
You should have plugin.shairplay to DEBUG set and set so that it is set
at LMS startup (i.e. so that plugin initialisation is logged). Then
restart LMS.
Check that port are being listened to (i.e. use netstat)
Check using ps
mentos wrote:
How do I setup plugin debug? Is it through the GUI or command line? Had
a quick google but didn't see any obvious instructions, I'll take
another look now though.
WebGUI Settings/Advanced/Logging
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Accord to plugin code if request was for client new then the following
two routines will be executed
Code:
sub createListenPort()
{
my $port = 5123;
my $listen;
$listen = new IO::Socket::INET6(Listen = 1,
Domain = AF_INET6,
ReuseAddr = 1,
Proto =
mentos wrote:
I really appreciate the help. I'm tempted to just leave it, but I've
expended so much time on it I'm loathed to do so.
I've tried disabling the firewall on my router (BT Home Hub 5) and
disabling PNP security, incase its doing some multicast filtering. But I
assume even if
castalla wrote:
Not trying to muddy the waters ... but just noticed the reference to
ethernet. Errr see here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?100379-Announce-ShairTunes-Pluginp=781703viewfull=1#post781703
I never discovered a solution but it became academic as I run
I'm convinced Port 5123 listen is failing. So you need to check the
error code from socket initialisation - I suggest add lines in red in
Plugin.pm and restart LMS making sure plugin.shairplug logging is set to
DEBUG and for startup
Code:
sub createListenPort()
{
peteharwood wrote:
Just to expand on the problem in the hope that somebody can assist.
Listen live works fine. However, listen again comes up with the error
message - Can't open remote URL. I have a Duet and Boom.
Is this a network, settings or a BBC issue?
Any advice would be very
peteharwood wrote:
Plugin version 1.2.1
Very old version please update. Current version is 1.2.12
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It is a very long time since 1.2.1 was around so it is strange that
other updates have not appeared.
What version of LMS are you running ?
The plugin list is only checked when LMS is started - so you 'll need to
restart LMS before updates are shown.
peteharwood wrote:
Have version 7.7.3 installed and have just reinstalled it. Still no joy
with listen again.
Is the plugin still at 1.2.1 ?
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V1.2.1 was released in Oct 2011 and 1.2.3 was out in Nov 2011 - so
something is very odd.
Did you install the iPlayer plugin manually ?
What directory is it installed on your PC ?
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peteharwood wrote:
To be honest I can't recall how I installed it. However it is installed
in C:\Users\Pete\Squeezebox\server\Plugins.
ok that's a manual installation which will never get updated by LMS.
Stop LMS and then delete the BBCiplayer directory and restart LMS.
Did the plugin used to work or is this a new install and first time use
?
What version of the Plugin is installed ?
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It looks like BBC have change somne of their processing.
In the menu.opml file of the plugin the URL for Radio 4FM and Radio4LW
are
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio4.xml?fm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio4.xml?lw
It looks like BBC doesn't like the ?fm and ?lw
hpk wrote:
Hi there,
I'd like to stream the analog Output of my Yamaha Receiver to my
SqueezeBoxes.
What I've read so far, this should be possible with Linux systems as
discussed in this thread.
My setup would be the following:
I'd like to use the WaveInput on my 'ODROID Device'
I don't think you'll get below 0.5sec as there are will be network
tdelays as well as various delays going between audio subsytems and
pipes.
By default the plugin will use the Radio Station Timeout setting to
determine how much data is bufferred before playing starts. You can
override this by
majones wrote:
I'm guessing (and hoping) that either LMS will be able to play the HDS
or HLS streams and handle the codec, or someone will provide a plugin
that enables LMS to do so.
In another thread I provided a hack to allow a user play some HLS
streams using vlc with a special plugin.
Owen Smith wrote:
What are HDS and HLS? I didn't see anything about those in the BBC news,
only that WMA was being withdrawn and that rtmp streaming might change
to http.
Reread the BBC press release about Audio Factory - the following para is
from it.
For Audio Factory, we have chosen
majones wrote:
The BBC's Audio Factory initiative is somewhat unintelligible to a
non-specialist such as myself! I'm left thinking that HDS and HLS are
evolutions of HTTP by Adobe and Apple respectively, that the BBC will
stream to desktops with HDS and to mobiles with HLS, and will use use
Owen Smith wrote:
I'm left wondering what the BBC thinks is wrong with the protocols we
are using today. They work fine for me. OK so they want to turn WMA off,
fine. But why change everything else too when it is working well?
They want a protocol which provides some level of control of
Owen Smith wrote:
Alas that streaming is the key, it requires reliable and high speed
broadband and mine is unreliable and slow.
The point about HLS, HDS is that the stream is broken into short about
10 sec files. Each file is streamed separately and there is
feedback to server on quality of
Wigster wrote:
Is this what is breaking the iPlayer plugin?
I think it is unlikely. Can you play BBC iPlayer from a browser on a PC
?
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danco wrote:
I am not sure if the problem is with my connection to my ISP, or with my
local network. The latter is (and pretty much has to be, given the
position of my router and my computer) Powerline, rather than the more
common wired ethernet or wireless.
Any suggestions for solving or
danco wrote:
Do the logs show what kind of stream is being played? If so, how?
On the SB2 if you look at the More Info while the stream is playing -
under Bitrate - if it says transcoded to xxxkbps FLAC) then stream is
being transcoded which has bigger load on processor and network (2
streams
danco wrote:
That's useful to know. But I don't know how to get to More Info.
When track is playing press right Arrow on Remote, then down until you
get More Info menu and then right arrow and then down to find details.
properjob wrote:
I guess network music system geeks aren't numerous enough to be given
access to the code the smartphone app developers have but if DAB,
Freeview and Sky (not to mention two current BBC stations accessible to
internet radio devices i.e. R1 and 1Xtra) can display useful
Owen Smith wrote:
Just got the email below on the get_iplayer mailing list. Lack of
programme data means get_iplayer is effectively dead at the moment. Does
this affect the LMS iPlayer plugin too? I strongly suspect it does.
Doesn'r afftec the BBC iPlayer plugin as it uses an offical XML
ftlight wrote:
I'm in the USA; iPlayer is working (with the usual bunch of missing
programmes), but Extra shows Failed to parse when going into any of
the listing pages.
Bill
Extra only fails on the menu items which depend on the feeds - the
schedule menus still work and so still provide
ModelCitizen wrote:
Is this the end of the Comedy Most Popular category?
This is the one feature I used everyday so I'm motivated to get it
fixed. Acording to doc the Nitro API can provide equivalent to Most
Popular but so far BBC hasn't acked my developer registration request.
ModelCitizen wrote:
Is there any way I can help persuade the BBC?
I don't think the delay is personal - I think they only made Nitro API
available to public in the last few day (it wasn't available about a
week ago) and now after they killed the feeds I guess they now have a
burst of
ModelCitizen wrote:
I will remain cautiously optimistic then :)
Don't be.
I didn't notice before but BBC Developer website still has the banner
that it is in Beta and only open to BBC employees.
There is a mismatch somewhere because when a now disabled BBC feeds
URL is used - it says use
castalla wrote:
As from this morning, I can't get iPlayer live BBC streams to play.
Error: can't open file
The can't open file for meana the format you are trying to play is
not supported for example WMA on Squeezlite and squeezelite has no
ffmpeg and LMS is on a Linux server weith any WMA
ukslim wrote:
I can't tell you how glad I am to read this. Whatever happens, thanks
for giving us iPlayerExtra; it's been a great asset for years.
Nitro is still not public so no timescale for getting the Extras
functionality back.
With Nitro there is a possibility of replacing the feeds
majones wrote:
Off topic, sorry - but I missed this and have a Sony TV - what is the
problem?
BBC just killed off the some iPlayer program feeds (originally RSS type)
. These feeds have been used by the iPlayerExtras plugin but it seems
BBCs targets included get_iplayer and XBMC users.
I don't have a MAc but from other forums AFAICT this is Java error and
needs 1.7 to fix it.
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rodlogic wrote:
AFAIK there is a unique programme identifier in the URL - begiining at
the moment with b0 so for example b0f5de46 would identify a programme
(TV or Radio) programme. But you need the URL - this works on iplayer
Radio - the URL for 30 day catch up prgrammes include this
Owen Smith wrote:
Any mention of DRM, either for or against?
If the BBC really needed some sort of DRM they could enable it right now
with encrypted rtmp - the fact they haven't, could indicate their
preference.
bpa's
I think one of the main reasons for BBC to changeover to HLS/HDS etc.
technologies is that it would allow a single format to be used for
video and audio and it has dynamic rate changing so that bit rate of
video and audio streams can be changed frequently to the best rate
that suits the
cathcam wrote:
I make extensive use of the Squeezeplay client to listn to BBC Radio
London on a laptop that is buried in the wall and run with the lid
closed, and uses a TV and wireless keyboard/mouse(when needed), I also
use squeezeplay on my regular laptop when I'm working from home. These
I am not sure of Squeezplay playback but I think it cannot play WMA
natively and possibly AAC. In which case a local LMS is needed to play
these formats.
You do not say what OS your Squeezplay is runnig on and whether when
playing the ASX URL you are using LMS or not.
cathcam wrote:
I have a
cathcam wrote:
Thanks for taking time to reply. Sorry if I've not been clear or
provided enough information previously.
I run a local LMS on a Netgear ReadyNas x86 + Linux; the Squeezeplay
client runs on Windows 7. I'm pretty sure it does get AAC as I had
problems with BBC Radio London a
You don't seem to have a sound device that copies the speaker output
(e.g. Stereo Mix )
Check if you have one (Control Panel / Hardware Sound / Sound/Manage
Audio devices / Recording) and if so then enabled it
Then using the Windows accessories recorder check you can record from
the sound
There will alway be a latency gap with WaveInput due to drivers,
Windows, LMS and network transmission. On some Windows systems, user
can never reduce the delay enough.
There is only one setting on LMS which can affect the delay.
The WaveInput Plugin generate an audio stream which is treated
What Linux distro ?
Do you have Pulseaudio ?
How is LMS run as a service or a process under a user login ?
Does the LMS user id have permissions to access the audio device ?
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I think you have Pulseaudio which can cause problem for WaveInput but
probably not if using the Wolfson line-in.
You need to check arecord recoding the Wolfson line-in running as the
user which LMS uses. When LMS is running do a ps command and find the
user name which is running LMS. Then run
Looks like installation didn't go properly as no user name has been
associated with the user id 107.
To use a user id instead of a name with sudo prefix number with # (i.e.
sudo -u #107 arecord ...)
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settings and coverart file name
formats and then check that all the settings match.
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IIRC SBS does not provide an album context menu option on the WebUI.
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In 7.3 a track needed to be playing to search for art.
In 7.4 and higher.
Because of a programming issue, the album art program needs at least
one player to be available so if there are no players online then I
think it may return the error message.
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Your problem is not Softsqueeze but audio on your system - you need to
check how your audio is set up on your Suse Linux system.
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Linux version work OK - I haven't tested Windows but there are no
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