Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-13 Thread mouss
David Cottle a écrit : > > I found the issue. It's backscatter mail to real recipient addresses. At > first I was getting non existent as well but stopped those. > Something (a spam filter?) after postfix returns says: "Invalid destination status" You MUST not reject mail after it was accepted

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-13 Thread mouss
Victor Duchovni a écrit : > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 06:13:52PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > >> David Cottle: >>> Content-Description: Undelivered Message >>> Content-Type: message/rfc822 >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>> >>> Received: from server.engineering.idb (unknown [127.0.0.1]) >>>

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread David Cottle
On 13/01/2009, at 15:32, Jim Wright wrote: David, you've sent so many messages and replies that quoting anything at this point is just wasting bandwidth. I'm going to jump in with a few notes on what I've read here: First, you are fixating on the wrong problem. If you have bounces tha

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread Jim Wright
David, you've sent so many messages and replies that quoting anything at this point is just wasting bandwidth. I'm going to jump in with a few notes on what I've read here: First, you are fixating on the wrong problem. If you have bounces that are queued up, this is because you are accept

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread David Cottle
On 13/01/2009, at 13:02, wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: David Cottle: Received: from server.engineering.idb (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.engineering.idb (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F5B13C002D for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:43:36 + ... THIS WAS MAIL FOR webmas...@aus-city.com.

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread Wietse Venema
David Cottle: > >> Received: from server.engineering.idb (unknown [127.0.0.1]) > >> by server.engineering.idb (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F5B13C002D > >> for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:43:36 + ... > > THIS WAS MAIL FOR webmas...@aus-city.com. > > The postmaster address on every domain e

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread David Cottle
On 13/01/2009, at 12:07, wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: David Cottle: On 13/01/2009, at 11:44, wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: David Cottle: On 13/01/2009, at 10:13, wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: David Cottle: Content-Description: Undelivered Mes

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread Wietse Venema
David Cottle: > > On 13/01/2009, at 11:44, wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: > > > David Cottle: > >> On 13/01/2009, at 10:13, wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: > >> > >>> David Cottle: > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > Content-Type: message/rfc822 >

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread David Cottle
On 13/01/2009, at 11:35, Res wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, David Cottle wrote: If I understand some spammer uses valid email addresses on my server and sends them via another server. They bounce as the addresses they spamming are invalid or fail for what ever reason. SPF -- Res "All we

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread David Cottle
On 13/01/2009, at 11:44, wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: David Cottle: On 13/01/2009, at 10:13, wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: David Cottle: Content-Description: Undelivered Message Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from server.

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread Wietse Venema
David Cottle: > On 13/01/2009, at 10:13, wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: > > > David Cottle: > >> Content-Description: Undelivered Message > >> Content-Type: message/rfc822 > >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >> > >> Received: from server.engineering.idb (unknown [127.0.0.1]) > >>

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread David Cottle
On 13/01/2009, at 10:13, wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: David Cottle: Content-Description: Undelivered Message Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from server.engineering.idb (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by server.engineering.idb (Postfix) with ESMTP

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 06:13:52PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: > David Cottle: > > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > Received: from server.engineering.idb (unknown [127.0.0.1]) > > by server.engineering.idb (P

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread Wietse Venema
David Cottle: > Content-Description: Undelivered Message > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Received: from server.engineering.idb (unknown [127.0.0.1]) > by server.engineering.idb (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F5B13C002D > for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:43:36 +

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread mouss
David Cottle a écrit : > Magnus Bäck wrote: >> On Monday, January 12, 2009 at 22:19 CET, >> David Cottle wrote: > >>> The messages are all faked spam supposedly sent from mail addresses >>> that are valid off the server domains. So therefore non valid >>> addresses are being rejected. So ho

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread David Cottle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Magnus Bäck wrote: > On Monday, January 12, 2009 at 22:19 CET, > David Cottle wrote: > >> The messages are all faked spam supposedly sent from mail addresses >> that are valid off the server domains. So therefore non valid >> addresses are being

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread Noel Jones
David Cottle wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Noel Jones wrote: David Cottle wrote: Hi Noel, Thanks for your help! I will firstly forward the postconf dump as requested. I will have to forward as another message - will call it postconf as I am on my iPhone. At least you

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread Magnus Bäck
On Monday, January 12, 2009 at 22:19 CET, David Cottle wrote: > The messages are all faked spam supposedly sent from mail addresses > that are valid off the server domains. So therefore non valid > addresses are being rejected. So how can these be dealt with they all > look genuine in the h

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread David Cottle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Noel Jones wrote: > David Cottle wrote: >> Hi Noel, >> >> Thanks for your help! >> >> I will firstly forward the postconf dump as requested. >> >> I will have to forward as another message - will call it postconf >> as I am on my iPhone. >> >> At least

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-12 Thread Noel Jones
webmas...@aus-city.com wrote: Quoting Noel Jones : You'll need to investigate where your bounces are coming from by examining your log - find out why postfix generated a bounce. Start by searching your logfile for the QUEUEID displayed by the "mailq" command. The "usual" source of unwanted boun

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-11 Thread webmaster
Quoting Noel Jones : David Cottle wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Noel, Yes please! But can you tell me how to do this... I really don't want to bounce the spam at all. I am using postfix 2.6, I built the rpm from source. Many thanks!, David Here is my main.cf (ab

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-11 Thread Noel Jones
David Cottle wrote: Hi Noel, Thanks for your help! I will firstly forward the postconf dump as requested. I will have to forward as another message - will call it postconf as I am on my iPhone. At least you can firstly look at that and perhaps find it is accepting during SMTP for undeliver

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-11 Thread David Cottle
Hi Noel, Thanks for your help! I will firstly forward the postconf dump as requested. I will have to forward as another message - will call it postconf as I am on my iPhone. At least you can firstly look at that and perhaps find it is accepting during SMTP for undeliverable. Many thanks

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-11 Thread Noel Jones
David Cottle wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Noel, Yes please! But can you tell me how to do this... I really don't want to bounce the spam at all. I am using postfix 2.6, I built the rpm from source. Many thanks!, David Here is my main.cf (abbreviated I show only a

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-11 Thread David Cottle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Noel, Yes please! But can you tell me how to do this... I really don't want to bounce the spam at all. I am using postfix 2.6, I built the rpm from source. Many thanks!, David Here is my main.cf (abbreviated I show only activated options) que

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-11 Thread Noel Jones
David Cottle wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I cant seem to stop these spam bounce emails. smtpd_sender_restrictions = check_sender_access hash:/var/spool/postfix/plesk/blacklists, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_unauthenticated_sender_login_mismatch, reject_unknown_sender_d

Re: Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-11 Thread Sahil Tandon
David Cottle wrote: > I cant seem to stop these spam bounce emails. What spam bounce emails? > I have one bounce in there now, and postqueue -p tells me that connect > to mailno.opens.com network is unreachable. > > Any ideas? You need to fully explain the problem. To get the most out of this

Can't stop UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURNED TO SENDER emails

2009-01-11 Thread David Cottle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I cant seem to stop these spam bounce emails. smtpd_sender_restrictions = check_sender_access hash:/var/spool/postfix/plesk/blacklists, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_unauthenticated_sender_login_mismatch, reject_unknown_sender_domain smtpd_recipient