sm it is a fact that jump
to every sysadmin's face.
Email communication require a more and more complicated
machinery every day too.
Does anyone has knowing of the future of SMTP ?
Is there some project to replace it by some
more secure protocol ?
Understand me well , writing this I do n
ex to configure every day.
It is not a criticism it is a fact that jump
to every sysadmin's face.
Email communication require a more and more complicated
machinery every day too.
Does anyone has knowing of the future of SMTP ?
Is there some project to replace it by some
more secure protocol ?
On 3/13/2011 4:57 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote:
How about one more thoughtful post at most and then a threadkill.
Join the spammers.dontlike.us list - its a good place to bring this sort of
general question up.
Join the ongoing marf standards list - it will affect us all!
Finally - there is no magic
ting more and more sophisticated
> and complex to configure every day.
>
> It is not a criticism it is a fact that jump
> to every sysadmin's face.
>
> Email communication require a more and more complicated
> machinery every day too.
>
> Does anyone has knowing
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> Datum: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:57:20 +0100
> Von: Frank Bonnet
> An: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Betreff: The future of SMTP ?
> Hello
>
> Sorry if this seems a bit off topic ...
>
> Postfix is really a great piece of software
&
Am 13.03.2011 12:38, schrieb Steve:
> And today it is not big deal to cut down spam to less then 1% of the inbound.
but not only with postfix and without taking money in the hand
do not tell us only with strict smtp you get 99% spam away
> I really don't understand why people keep telling that
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> Datum: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:42:55 +0100
> Von: Reindl Harald
> An: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Betreff: Re: The future of SMTP ?
>
>
> Am 13.03.2011 12:38, schrieb Steve:
> > And today it is not big deal to cut down spam to le
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:38:24PM +0100, Steve wrote:
> The spamming problem is not something that you can fix by
> replacing SMTP with something new.
An appropriate illustration is the initiative taken recently by
Germany's government to create a secure e-mail environment. It
does not replace SM
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> Datum: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:58:50 +0100
> Von: Lorens Kockum
> An: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Betreff: Re: The future of SMTP ?
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:38:24PM +0100, Steve wrote:
> > The spamming problem is not somethin
every day.
It is not a criticism it is a fact that jump
to every sysadmin's face.
Email communication require a more and more complicated
machinery every day too.
Does anyone has knowing of the future of SMTP ?
Is there some project to replace it by some
more secure protocol ?
Understa
Le Sun 13/03/2011, Steve disait
>
> >
> >
> > Am 13.03.2011 12:38, schrieb Steve:
> > > And today it is not big deal to cut down spam to less then 1% of the
> > inbound.
> >
> > but not only with postfix
> >
> No. Not only with postfix alone. But most of us are not only using postfix in
> the
What's causing spam?
Reasons for spam:
- people want traffic on their sites (because they hope to make more
business) - or they want to distribute malware.
Whom to spam:
- spammers try to find contact identifiers to send messages to.
They do this by:
- random combinations of words
- harv
On 3/13/2011 4:57 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote:
Hello
Sorry if this seems a bit off topic ...
Postfix is really a great piece of software
and we all thanks to Wiese for his tremendous work.
Yes it is and it gets better every release.
But to fight spam and all other malicious
problems it's get
lst_ho...@kwsoft.de:
> This is not a problem of SMTP but from the idea to design a system
> where everyone is able to send a message to some other participant if
> the "address" is known. So you don't have to reinvent SMTP but to
> ditch the idea of free electronic communication.
+1.
Now, l
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> Datum: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:56:31 +0100
> Von: Erwan David
> An: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Betreff: Re: The future of SMTP ?
> Le Sun 13/03/2011, Steve disait
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 13.03.2011 12:38
Le 13/03/2011 16:56, Erwan David a écrit :
> Le Sun 13/03/2011, Steve disait
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 13.03.2011 12:38, schrieb Steve:
And today it is not big deal to cut down spam to less then 1% of the
>>> inbound.
>>>
>>> but not only with postfix
>>>
>> No. Not only with postfix alone. But most
gt;
>> But to fight spam and all other malicious
>> problems it's getting more and more sophisticated
>> and complex to configure every day.
>> It is not a criticism it is a fact that jump
>> to every sysadmin's face.
>>
>> Email communication require a
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011, Frank Bonnet wrote:
But to fight spam and all other malicious
problems it's getting more and more sophisticated
and complex to configure every day.
It is not a criticism it is a fact that jump
to every sysadmin's face.
Does anyone has knowing of the future of
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 13.03.2011 12:38, schrieb Steve:
I really don't understand why people keep telling that spam is a problem?
because there are peopole out their whose time costs money?
This prt of the problem I suspect is marginal. It's not the cost, it's
wh
1, Frank Bonnet wrote:
>
>> But to fight spam and all other malicious
>>
problems it's getting more and more sophisticated
>> and
complex to configure every day.
>> It is not a criticism it is
a fact that jump
>> to every sysadmin's face.
>
>> Does
e.
Does anyone has knowing of the future of SMTP ?
Is there some project to replace it by some
more secure protocol ?
I, too, would have to say "no" to this one.
SMTP is used largely because it has worked since the standard was
implemented with RFC 822 back nearly 30 years ago and it s
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> Datum: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 08:08:18 -0500
> Von: Glen Lee Edwards
> An: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Betreff: Re: The future of SMTP ?
> On 3/13/2011 8:27 AM, Dennis Carr wrote:
> > On Sun, 13 Mar 2011, Frank Bonnet wrote:
> >
>
On 3/13/2011 9:37 AM, Dennis Carr wrote:
So the problem is not with SMTP, it's with the spammers. Only thing we can do
is block them. I really, REALLY wish there was more we could do so we can
stop them - but the only thing we can do to stop them is to make it cost more
than it's worth, and
gt; and
> complex to configure every day.
> >> It is not a criticism it is
> a fact that jump
> >> to every sysadmin's face.
> >
> >> Does anyone has knowing of the future of SMTP ?
> >>
> Is there some project to replace it by some
>
Am Sonntag, den 13.03.2011, 06:37 -0700 schrieb Dennis Carr:
> So the problem is not with SMTP, it's with the spammers.
I do not agree. The problem are the people who read spam
and buy viagra and stuff using the links in the spam.
Only by their action, the spammers gain money
and it is worth the ef
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:52 PM, wrote:
> This is not a problem of SMTP but from the idea to design a system where
> everyone is able to send a message to some other participant if the
> "address" is known.
I thing SPAM is more a political problem than a technical one !
A lot of smart technic
Am 18.03.2011 12:18, schrieb Alain Spineux:
> and RBL providers handle domain names instead of IP addresses.
what sense should this make?
the domain / rcpt / from does mean NOTHING
the connecting ip can not be faked as long the
protocol needs any tcp answer
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 18.03.2011 12:18, schrieb Alain Spineux:
>
>> and RBL providers handle domain names instead of IP addresses.
>
> what sense should this make?
>
> the domain / rcpt / from does mean NOTHING
SPF can be used on domains of the SMTP and
Am 18.03.2011 12:54, schrieb Alain Spineux:
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Reindl Harald
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 18.03.2011 12:18, schrieb Alain Spineux:
>>
>>> and RBL providers handle domain names instead of IP addresses.
>>
>> what sense should this make?
>>
>> the domain / rcpt / from does
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 18.03.2011 12:54, schrieb Alain Spineux:
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Reindl Harald
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 18.03.2011 12:18, schrieb Alain Spineux:
>>>
and RBL providers handle domain names instead of IP addresses.
>>>
>
On 2011-03-18 9:41 AM, Alain Spineux wrote:
> And when you get an email, if it is not from a SPF enable domain you
> drop it,
If you do that you drop a lot of legitimate mail...
--
Best regards,
Charles
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Charles Marcus
wrote:
> On 2011-03-18 9:41 AM, Alain Spineux wrote:
>> And when you get an email, if it is not from a SPF enable domain you
>> drop it,
>
> If you do that you drop a lot of legitimate mail...
Not if everyone comply with these new rules (my proposa
Alain Spineux:
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Charles Marcus
> wrote:
> > On 2011-03-18 9:41 AM, Alain Spineux wrote:
> >> And when you get an email, if it is not from a SPF enable ?domain you
> >> drop it,
> >
> > If you do that you drop a lot of legitimate mail...
>
> Not if everyone comply
Everything about SMTP and open networks has already been said in
this thread. There is no need to repeat it.
Everyone has the right to decide what email they want to receive,
but no-one has the right to make the spam problem worse by sending
email to innocent people whose address was mis-used to s
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