PowerMail vs. Thunderbird

2007-04-19 Thread Winston Weinmann
Has anyone compared PowerMail to Thunderbird? Thanks. - Winston

Re: PowerMail vs. Thunderbird

2007-04-19 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Am/On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:24:45 -0400 schrieb/wrote Winston Weinmann: Has anyone compared PowerMail to Thunderbird? not directly. I use TB sometime for testing or for imap. TB has some advantages, like a GnuPGP Plugin, a bit better imap implementation and html mail, if one likes that blinky

Re: PowerMail vs. Thunderbird

2007-04-19 Thread Winston Weinmann
Exactly. That's why the printing problem is so glaring a defect. - Winston Winston, if you jump over the html issue, PM is one of the best, if not THE best mail-client for the Mac. And I recently tested them all, because I had to implement a mail-client in a database. Thanks and all the best

Re: PowerMail vs. Thunderbird

2007-04-19 Thread Barbara Needham
Winston Weinmann on 4/19/07 said Has anyone compared PowerMail to Thunderbird? Yes, I ran both together for a month or two. I am now running PowerMail alone. Thunderbird: free PM: costs $ Thunderbird: shows html or pictures according to your preferences by each folder/account. PM: must choose

Re: PowerMail vs. Thunderbird

2007-04-19 Thread Michael Tsai
On Apr 19, 2007, at 11:59 AM, Barbara Needham wrote: Spam: SpamSieve works seamlessly with PowerMail. As far as I can see, it does not work with Thunderbird. SpamSieve 2.6 does work with Thunderbird. However, the accuracy of the spam filtering will be a bit higher if you use it with

Re: PowerMail vs. Thunderbird

2007-04-19 Thread Matthias Schmidt
Am/On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:59:48 -0700 schrieb/wrote Barbara Needham: Winston Weinmann on 4/19/07 said Has anyone compared PowerMail to Thunderbird? Yes, I ran both together for a month or two. I am now running PowerMail alone. Thunderbird: free PM: costs $ Thunderbird: shows html or pictures

Re: PowerMail vs. Thunderbird

2007-04-19 Thread Tim Hodgson
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 4:59 pm -0700, Barbara Needham wrote: I prefer text e-mails so that is another factor with me pro PowerMail. I don't think any of the people asking for better HTML support are saying they _prefer_ HTML mail; simply that they have to live with receiving it. -- TimH

Re: Powermail vs. Thunderbird (off topic)

2003-09-15 Thread C. A. Niemiec
... Great filter, Mr. Gates. Why don't you hire Mike Tsai. I seem to recall a scene like this in The Empire Strikes Back. Don't do it Mike Tsaiwalker! :D Chris --

Re: Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-15 Thread Scott at HobbyLink Japan
Good for you. However, modem users would still be paying for the extra connection time. Mailserver operators and Internet providers would still be paying for the bandwidth, temp storage that spam generates, even if everyone owned a copy of spamsieve. Guess who's paying for all of that in the end?

Re: Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-14 Thread Max Gossell
At Sunday, September 14, 2003, 18.37 CET, Mikael Byström pmdisc- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about mobile mail? Is there a spamsieve or similar for your phone or Palm? Don't talk about -- when paying per kB and using the mobile phone's slow connection and getting hundreds of spam mails (or

Re: Re(2): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-13 Thread Janusz Buda
Michael Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me see -- I replaced both application and scripts, allowed SpamSieve to update the corpus, then reset it. I then imported some seed spam and retrained with a few dozen good/bad messages to the corpus. I think that's the problem There are more than

Re: Re(2): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread Michael Tsai
On Friday, September 12, 2003, at 10:02 AM, Janusz Buda wrote: Let me see -- I replaced both application and scripts, allowed SpamSieve to update the corpus, then reset it. I then imported some seed spam and retrained with a few dozen good/bad messages to the corpus. I think that's the

Re: Re(5): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread C. A. Niemiec
Scott at HobbyLink: Not only that, but Michael Tsai is actively developing the program, and very responsive. not long after... Michael Tsai: There's no POP locking problem with SpamSieve because PowerMail is what downloads the messages. aob_ml - Check it out! There's your active developer

Re: Re(2): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread Janusz Buda
Michael Tsai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 11:37 PM, Janusz Buda wrote: Ever since updating to PowerMail 4.2 and SpamSieve 2.0 the PM filters have been setting about 90% of incoming mail (both spam and good) to Label Priority No. 7, with no recognizable

Re(5): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread Michael Lewis
aob_ml sez: No I haven't already decided, I'm playing devils advocate here. And I'm waiting for some point to come in and convince me. The thing is that mail clients are an incredibly personal preference, so nothing anyone says is likely going to convince you. People try mail clients until they

Re(5): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread Tim Hodgson
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 8:15 am -0400, aob_ml wrote: Thankfully I run my own domain, and have been able to run some filtering at that level. Maybe SpamAssassin would be a better option for you? When I mentioned that $25 for SpamSieve was a deal breaker, it's not that $25 is a lot of money,

Re: Re(2): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread Michael Tsai
On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 11:37 PM, Janusz Buda wrote: Ever since updating to PowerMail 4.2 and SpamSieve 2.0 the PM filters have been setting about 90% of incoming mail (both spam and good) to Label Priority No. 7, with no recognizable pattern. I noticed that the SpamSieve

Re: Re(5): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread Michael Tsai
On Friday, September 12, 2003, at 08:15 AM, aob_ml wrote: The problem with the external filters is the obvious poplock problem, when the filter tries to connect at the same time. There's no POP locking problem with SpamSieve because PowerMail is what downloads the messages. -- Michael

Re: Re(3): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread Dietmar Harms
Austin, I expect stability I had this problem for some time that PowerMail crashed rather often. After using the built in features to compact the database and rebuilding the index, the problem disappeared. Now PowerMail is running for months without any crash under Mac OS X 10.2.6. AppleScript

Re(3): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread Tim Hodgson
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 2:21 pm +0900, Scott at HobbyLink Japan wrote: Whether $25 is a lot of money or not for SpamSieve is something only you can decide, but let me offer this: I'd be quite surprised if anybody else's (free or built-in) spam system worked as well as it does. Not only that,

Re(3): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread John Snippe
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003, it is attributed to aob_ml to have said: but I expect stability in return, which I have never really gotten. This I don't get. What OS you working on? Here on MOSX, PM has never once crashed in the half-year I have been using it... Do have one Q about T-Bird: how does

Re(2): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread Janusz Buda
Judi Sohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:20:52 -0600 Bill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: I have to agree, if you get too much spam, get SpamSieve period. And here's another vote. Shortly after I downloaded SpamSieve 2.0 (upgrade) I wiped out my corpus as recommended and used my

Re(3): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread aob_ml
SpamSieve ($25) vs. Free. There's the breaker there. Seems like I might be throwing good money after bad. That and it is a kludge in this day and age where nearly every other mail app has some spam filtering. Performance isn't an issue on my hardware.. Speaking of which I can run Thunderbird

Re(3): Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread Marlyse Comte
Thunderbird Cons: Unknown Future/Not Fully developed Open Source No AppleScript (and unlikely in at least the near future) I took a quick peak at thunderbird and as cool it might seem, there are definite points why I personally would not switch: don't think the interface elegant nor really

Re: Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread Scott at HobbyLink Japan
Thunderbird Cons: Unknown Future/Not Fully developed Open Source No AppleScript (and unlikely in at least the near future) That last one is a fatal flaw for me. With AppleScript, you can add features and shortcuts to a program and customize it as you want. You mention as a con of PM that it

Re: Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread Gerald F. Carroll
This is strange indeed. I cannot remember the last time Powermail failed on me. I won't say it hasn't, but never where it doesn't start up right again. I like powermail because i hate HTML with all it's dancing garbage. I do not find an irregularity in the updates, Skins don't are not terribly

Powermail vs. Thunderbird

2003-09-12 Thread aob_ml
Okay, so I've been a *paid* user of Powermail 4 for I don't know, better then 6 months. And I've been fairly happy. However Thunderbird has been coming on strong, and I've installed it on a ton of friends computers, and they've been totally thrilled. So here it is, I hate to give up on