[NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread Stephen Russell
We were just discussing the value of Linux and I found this via twitter today. "Users have, it claims, also complained of missing functionality, a lack of usability and poor interopera

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 16, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > We were just discussing the value of Linux and I found this via twitter today. > > > > "Users have, it claims, also complained of

RE: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread Jarvis, Matthew
> -Original Message- > From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] > On Behalf Of Stephen Russell > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:03 PM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype? > > We were just

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 2/16/2011 4:11 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Feb 16, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > >> We were just discussing the value of Linux and I found this via twitter >> today. >> >>

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread Ted Roche
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Jarvis, Matthew wrote: > > "The government's response to the SPD's question states that, although > open source has demonstrated its worth, particularly on servers, the > cost of adapting and extending it, for example in writing printer and > scanner drivers, and o

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 16, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Jarvis, Matthew wrote: > "The government's response to the SPD's question states that, although > open source has demonstrated its worth, particularly on servers, the > cost of adapting and extending it, for example in writing printer and > scanner drivers, and of trai

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: >        That's what previous highly-publicized switches back to Windows were > like: lots of vague, hard-to-believe claims that reinforced the stereotypical > objection to Linux from a decade ago. > >        That's why I'm curious to see if this

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 2/16/2011 4:34 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > That's what previous highly-publicized switches back to Windows were > like: lots of vague, hard-to-believe claims that reinforced the stereotypical > objection to Linux from a decade ago. > > That's why I'm curious to see if this instance is an

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:08 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > But you'll never know that, will you? There were a few cases recently where companies that had announced a switch back to Windows were later found to have been paid to switch, rather than making that decision based on actu

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 2/16/2011 5:52 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > There were a few cases recently where companies that had announced a > switch back to Windows were later found to have been paid to switch, rather > than making that decision based on actual needs. If they were paid to switch back, then it was just

RE: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread Geoff
ursday, 17 February 2011 9:22 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype? On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:08 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > But you'll never know that, will you? There were a few cases recently where companies that had announced a swit

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Bourke
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:34 -0500, "Ed Leafe" wrote: > On Feb 16, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Jarvis, Matthew > > > That's what previous highly-publicized switches back to Windows were > like: lots of vague, hard-to-believe claims that reinforced the stereotypical > objection to Linux from a deca

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread Jeff Johnson
I have moved 100% to Ubuntu. The only Windows I do is remote desktop into an XP machine and use Virtual Box for virtual Windows 7 and Vista for testing. I find Ubuntu to be everything Bill Gates wanted Windows to be. They seemed to be listening. Gimp, Open Office, Thunderbird, Firefox & Pyt

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-16 Thread Paul McNett
I use Mac, Linux, and Windows daily. I don't believe in absolutes. Use the right tool for the specific job, and don't say things like "we are a Windows shop" or "we are moving 100% to Linux" and you'll probably stay out of trouble. Practicality beats purity, and in many cases for many reasons

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Alan Bourke
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:54 -0700, "Jeff Johnson" wrote: > > Ubuntu but not under Windows. > > I *TOTALLY* agree with Ed's assessment of the situation. I can't > believe anyone would prefer Office over Open Office, or Internet > Explorer over Firefox, or Outlook over the post office. After usi

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Allen
because windows is what we program for. VFP is windows and this list is VFP so we are bound to use windows. as for other comments, office is a standard so many people use it. also good to program to in VFP. though I do not think we need the latest version all the time. IE9 is better than FF in m

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Ricardo Araoz
El 16/02/11 19:00, Stephen Russell escribió: > > Or it could be undereducated users that expected it to be there and > they learned that you had to accept deficiencies. Probably, though I'd say "differences" instead of "deficiencies". > What if the finance > group for the government was uber ri

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Ricardo Araoz
El 17/02/11 06:53, Allen escribió: > IE9 is better than FF in my opinion but then Im not a "Its microsoft I hate > it" person If you compare IE9 to FF 3.? you are right. Probably not so if you compare it to FF4 or the last version of Chromium. ___ Pos

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Jeff Johnson
On 02/17/2011 02:53 AM, Allen wrote: > because windows is what we program for. VFP is windows and this list is VFP > so we are bound to use windows. Thank goodness that Whil & Ed & Ted & Paul & Kevin & Bo & all the others that experimented and learned and taught us about all of the possibilities

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Allen wrote: > Does not leave us with much choice for phones though. Mr Hilter's iphonies I hereby invoke Goodwin's Law and declared the thread dead. Sheep. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com _

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Fred Taylor
Goodwin's? ;) Guess it's not done yet. Fred On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Allen wrote: > > > Does not leave us with much choice for phones though. Mr Hilter's > iphonies > > I hereby invoke Goodwin's Law and declared the thread dead. > >

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Fred Taylor wrote: > Goodwin's? ;) > > Guess it's not done yet. > > Fred Oh, fine, can I buy back a vowel? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Ted Roche wrote: > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Fred Taylor wrote: >> Goodwin's? ;) >> >> Guess it's not done yet. >> >> Fred > > Oh, fine, can I buy back a vowel? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law > Hi Ted, Vowel or not, there is this problem of "poor form to raise such a

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Allen
seems there are a few that like to microsoft bash but don't like it when someone says otherwise Al -Original Message- From: Pete Theisen Hi Ted, Vowel or not, there is this problem of "poor form to raise such a comparison arbitrarily with the motive of ending the thread." I love you li

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 17, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Allen wrote: > seems there are a few that like to microsoft bash but don't like it when > someone says otherwise IMO, there is a broad range on the criticism spectrum. "Bashing" is criticizing without backing it up with substance. When you explain your cri

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Allen wrote: > seems there are a few that like to microsoft bash but don't like it when > someone says otherwise Hi Al, I don't usually associate Ted with M$ or not with M$, I believe he is platform neutral. He does, however, try to control the list discussions on occasion. How pointing that o

RE: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Jarvis, Matthew
> -Original Message- > From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] > On Behalf Of Pete Theisen > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:47 AM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype? > > I don't

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/17/11 8:32 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Feb 17, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Allen wrote: > >> seems there are a few that like to microsoft bash but don't like it when >> someone says otherwise > > IMO, there is a broad range on the criticism spectrum. "Bashing" is > criticizing without backing it up

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Jarvis, Matthew wrote: >> I don't usually associate Ted with M$ or not with M$, I believe he is >> platform neutral. He does, however, try to control the list > discussions on occasion. > I know what you mean about Ted he uses things like "facts", "real > world experience" and "well thought

Re: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype?

2011-02-17 Thread Michael Madigan
There's no reason they can't use open source programs with windows. --- On Wed, 2/16/11, Stephen Russell wrote: > From: Stephen Russell > Subject: [NF]Linux is it really worth the hype? > To: "ProFox Email List" > Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 4:02