Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-09-02 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > Stephen Russell wrote: >> That level is high risk and high reward.  Why do you think that the >> reward should be average? >> >> Hind sight is always 20/20, sometimes better ;-> >> >> You don't think that someone who gets to that l

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-09-01 Thread Michael Madigan
But the Coke CEO has to have experience. --- On Tue, 9/1/09, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > From: MB Software Solutions, LLC > Subject: Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle > To: "ProFox Email List" > Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 5:29 PM > Stephe

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-09-01 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Stephen Russell wrote: > That level is high risk and high reward. Why do you think that the > reward should be average? > > Hind sight is always 20/20, sometimes better ;-> > > You don't think that someone who gets to that level without an intense > background check? When the proof of their pri

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-29 Thread Pete Theisen
Stephen Russell wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Pete Theisen wrote: >> Most boards of directors are a collection of well-connected but ignorant >> people. > Are they ignorant because they have different opinions then you do? Hi Stephen, I have become acquainted with some at church as

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-29 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Pete Theisen wrote: > Most boards of directors are a collection of well-connected but ignorant > people. -- Are they ignorant because they have different opinions then you do? The few that I know via church are far from ignorant. They

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread Michael Madigan
You're my favorite ignoramus! --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > From: Ricardo Aráoz > Subject: Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle > To: "ProFox Email List" > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 6:43 PM > MB Software Solutions, LLC wr

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Stephen Russell wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:06 AM, MB Software Solutions, > LLC wrote: > >> Michael Madigan wrote: >> >>> Mike, >>> >>> Almost all companies take Government money in some form. Should companies >>> that sell to the Government also limit their CEO pay? >>> >>

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > Michael Madigan wrote: > >> Mike, >> >> Almost all companies take Government money in some form. Should companies >> that sell to the Government also limit their CEO pay? >> LOL. What an ass! He says companies should be free to do whatever they want, bu

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread Pete Theisen
Stephen Russell wrote: > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: >> I think it's more than jealousy, I think super-high salaries like that can >> cripple a corporation if makes the company to top-heavy > -- > > > So the board of directors doesn't know wha

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread Pete Theisen
Stephen Russell wrote: > Do I think that their income is immense? Yes. Do I allow my jealousy > get the better part of me? I try not to. Hi Steve, Here's where people are missing the point, thinking jealousy is the problem, it isn't. The problem is the allocation dislocation caused by these

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:36 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > Stephen Russell wrote: >> In your example why is the Board of Directors giving their hard earned >> profits away to this CEO?  They are the ones who decide his/her >> revenue structure. >> >> Why are you going to make LAWS to fix

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Michael Madigan wrote: > Public corporations. > > For years there have been corporations with CEOs making ridiculous amounts of > money compared to the company itself. > > from 2005 > > http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P125120.asp Thanks for that link...everyone interested in this crap

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Michael Madigan wrote: > I think it's more than jealousy, I think super-high salaries like that can > cripple a corporation if makes the company to top-heavy You mean like "too big to fail?" ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Mainten

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Stephen Russell wrote: > In your example why is the Board of Directors giving their hard earned > profits away to this CEO? They are the ones who decide his/her > revenue structure. > > Why are you going to make LAWS to fix a problem that is only in your > vision not theirs? > > Do I think that

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Michael Madigan wrote: > It's the same reason politicians can screw the people and get re-elected over > and over again. The stockholders need to throw out the board of directors > and start fresh. > > There should be some formula for max pay, I just don't know what it is. 400x > lowest sal

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 10:08 2009-08-28, Stephen Russell wrote: >On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: > > I think it's more than jealousy, I think super-high salaries like > that can cripple a corporation if makes the company to top-heavy >So the board of directors doesn't know what they are doi

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread Michael Madigan
[OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle > To: "ProFox Email List" > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 1:08 PM > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:29 AM, > Michael Madigan > wrote: > > I think it's more than jealousy, I think super-high > salaries like that can cripple a co

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: > I think it's more than jealousy, I think super-high salaries like that can > cripple a corporation if makes the company to top-heavy -- So the board of directors doesn't know what they are doing? Is this in just

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread Michael Madigan
I think it's more than jealousy, I think super-high salaries like that can cripple a corporation if makes the company to top-heavy --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Stephen Russell wrote: > From: Stephen Russell > Subject: Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle > To: "ProFox

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:06 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > Michael Madigan wrote: >> Mike, >> >> Almost all companies take Government money in some form.  Should companies >> that sell to the Government also limit their CEO pay? > > > How about a rule that says the CEO cannot make more

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-28 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote: > It's the same reason politicians can screw the people and get > re-elected over and over again. The stockholders need to throw out > the board of directors and start fresh. > > There should be some formula for max pay, I just don't know what it > is. 400x lowest salary?

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-27 Thread Michael Madigan
he company loses 10 billion should he still get 10 million? --- On Fri, 8/28/09, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > From: MB Software Solutions, LLC > Subject: Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle > To: "ProFox Email List" > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009,

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-27 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Michael Madigan wrote: > Mike, > > Almost all companies take Government money in some form. Should companies > that sell to the Government also limit their CEO pay? How about a rule that says the CEO cannot make more than 400x the lowest paid worker. That might sound harsh, but c'mon...400x.

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-27 Thread Ken Kixmoeller/fh
On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:54 PM, Ken Kixmoeller/fh wrote: >> I'm not for socialism, but I am for this. > > Can't have it both ways. As I see the way I snipped Michael's note it looks like I am making calling big government socialism. The part of his eMail I meant to quote followed the above, and

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-27 Thread Ken Kixmoeller/fh
On Aug 27, 2009, at 4:24 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > I'm not for socialism, but I am for this. Can't have it both ways. So say the congress says the law applies to public companies over 100 employees. that would be typical for such a law. How many fit that? US Census says about 4

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-27 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 14:40 2009-08-27, Michael Madigan wrote: >Almost all companies take Government money in some form. Should >companies that sell to the Government also limit their CEO pay? It beats having it be infinite. [snip] Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko ___

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-27 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 14:24 2009-08-27, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: [snip] >I'm not for socialism, but I am for this. I'm for smaller government >and more freedom of choice, but any company who receives the first $0.01 >in government money should have its books made public, imo. Your >company didn't take

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-27 Thread Michael Madigan
Mike, Almost all companies take Government money in some form. Should companies that sell to the Government also limit their CEO pay? --- On Thu, 8/27/09, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > From: MB Software Solutions, LLC > Subject: Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussl

Re: [OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-27 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Stephen Russell wrote: > Congressional Democrats want CEO pay data, other information from > health insurers I'm not for socialism, but I am for this. I'm for smaller government and more freedom of choice, but any company who receives the first $0.01 in government money should have its books m

[OT] I see Congress flexing some mussle

2009-08-24 Thread Stephen Russell
Congressional Democrats want CEO pay data, other information from health insurers -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer SQL Server DBA Web and Winform Development Independent Contractor Memphis TN