Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-02 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 18:12 2013-05-01, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote: And that has what to do with two classes of programmers that differ by age? It can. If one is not aware of how things were done before, one can repeat the same mistakes. Younger people tend not to know this, and older people

RE: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread Allen
I think kids are regressing back to apes with the text language. Al -Original Message- The point is these people started out without a keyboard and it worked for them. Put one in front of them and they struggle a bit. Today's young professional doesn't really need a keyboard, they

RE: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread Dave Crozier
Y U fink dat M8.. 8nt nuffin rong wiv dat ... init Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Allen Sent: 01 May 2013 07:59 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: Are you ready to rumble? I think kids are regressing back to apes with the text language

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread Alan Bourke
On Wed, May 1, 2013, at 01:49 AM, Ken Dibble wrote: Voice recognition is never going to work as an all-purpose interface for a computer, just as the mouse won't work as an all-purpose interface for a computer (no matter how much Steve Jobs wanted it to), touch-screen won't work as an

RE: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread John Weller
I think the mistake that is being made in this discussion is the assumption that it is (tablets and touch screens) OR (keyboards and mice) implying that they are mutually exclusive. I believe in horses for courses, select the best technology available for the specific task. My son has a nexus

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:13 AM, John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote: I think the mistake that is being made in this discussion is the assumption that it is (tablets and touch screens) OR (keyboards and mice) implying that they are mutually exclusive. I believe in horses for courses,

RE: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
: Re: Are you ready to rumble? On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:13 AM, John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote: I think the mistake that is being made in this discussion is the assumption that it is (tablets and touch screens) OR (keyboards and mice) implying that they are mutually exclusive. I

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 16:13 2013-04-30, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On 4/30/2013 5:37 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: Today's young professional doesn't really need a keyboard, they have been texting for at least 10 years. Damn kids. GET OFF MY LAWN! That

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 17:49 2013-04-30, Ken Dibble krdib...@stny.rr.com wrote: Voice recognition should be fine in no time at all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FFRoYhTJQQ It's not just about dictating text and having the computer type it. That's going to be reasonably fast, once one has the computer

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread Ken Dibble
User interfaces are very important. Personally, I find touchpads to be very awkward. Many of my mouse actions are point-and-click. With a mouse, it is simple. With a touchpad, I have to move my finger around and then move it around to click the button. (Due to my dry hands,

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread Michael Oke, II
Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 5:37 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: Are you ready to rumble? On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:13 AM, John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote: I think the mistake

RE: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
[mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 7:56 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: Are you ready to rumble? Yet no more accurate. Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com 661-349-6221 On May 1, 2013, at 4:25 AM, Virgil Bierschwale vbier

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread Michael Oke, II
, May 01, 2013 7:56 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: Are you ready to rumble? Yet no more accurate. Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com 661-349-6221 On May 1, 2013, at 4:25 AM, Virgil Bierschwale vbier...@gmail.com wrote: They did NOT say that old programmers are better than

RE: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-05-01 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Oke, II Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:13 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: Are you ready to rumble? And that has what to do with two classes of programmers that differ by age? Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com 661-349-6221 On May 1, 2013, at 6:02 PM

Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread Stephen Russell
Review on a touchscreen in Win8 http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33153_7-57581910-10391733/does-it-make-sense-to-buy-a-pc-with-a-touch-screen/?part=rsstag=feedsubj=TheCheapskate His frustration is valid. Because the entire REST OF his application suite is old school mouse and keyboard driven. I

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread Dan Covill
On 04/30/13 09:43 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: I bet there is money to be made for developers who make content intended for touch screens. If you're talking about Tablets, yes. Everybody's already into Phones, but Tablets are still a big growth area. If you're talking about office PCs, I

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/30/2013 3:54 PM, Dan Covill wrote: On 04/30/13 09:43 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: I bet there is money to be made for developers who make content intended for touch screens. If you're talking about Tablets, yes. Everybody's already into Phones, but Tablets are still a big growth area. If

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Dan Covill dcov...@san.rr.com wrote: If you're talking about office PCs, I don't think so. There are two reasons: 1) Touch in not a natural fit for desktop devices. PC monitors stand up, and touch is not a natural motion for something vertical and in front

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread Dan Covill
On 04/30/13 01:11 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: Voice recognition should be fine in no time at all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FFRoYhTJQQ I really see that the reasons touch works on the phone is because the developers thought about what needed to be done. Instead of listening to people say

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread Mike Copeland
The voice recognition accuracy on my Android phone always amazes me with its accuracy. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: Are you ready to rumble? From: Dan Covill dcov...@san.rr.com To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 4/30/2013 3:56 PM On 04/30/13 01:11 PM, Stephen Russell wrote

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread Rafael Copquin
My hands are big and so are my fingers. I hate touch phones. I just got one that has both touch and a small keyboard at the bottom. I use my nails to press the keys to write text. The phone calls are touch, because the phone keypad is drawn with big numbers in the screen I agree, desktops with

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Dan Covill dcov...@san.rr.com wrote: I have a Nexus 7 Tablet, and the voice recognition works just great for Google searches! In my limited experience, touch works best for making large, imprecise moves. The perfect examples are swiping to the next page of

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread Joe Yoder
: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:31:58 -0500 From: Mike Copeland To: profoxt...@leafe.com cc: Subject: Re: Are you ready to rumble? The voice recognition accuracy on my Android phone always amazes me with its accuracy. Mike Original Message Subject: Re: Are you ready to rumble? From: Dan

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/30/2013 5:37 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: Today's young professional doesn't really need a keyboard, they have been texting for at least 10 years. Damn kids. GET OFF MY LAWN! -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread Ken Dibble
The point is these people started out without a keyboard and it worked for them. Put one in front of them and they struggle a bit. Today's young professional doesn't really need a keyboard, they have been texting for at least 10 years. Not even today's young professional has been texting

Re: Are you ready to rumble?

2013-04-30 Thread Ken Dibble
Voice recognition should be fine in no time at all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FFRoYhTJQQ It's not just about dictating text and having the computer type it. That's going to be reasonably fast, once one has the computer trained to recognize one's voice. However, there are many things