Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I didn't see this post. I personally don't see
the problem with relational databases under Node.js. In fact, I love the
ORM tools like bookshelf but I have the option of communicating directly
with the db as well. I have implemented 2 real time international freight
There was a time that Fox ran on DOS, Windows, Mac and Unix. It'd be nice
to have that again.
And Sun!
Bill Anderson
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Kevin Cully
kcu...@cullytechnologies.comwrote:
Cross platform. I don't want to develop for 90% of the desktops. I want
to develop
On 20/05/2014 22:08, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
On 2014-05-20 17:05, Stephen Russell wrote:
There wan't enough money for resources to fund Fox anymore. You buy
a copy
and sell 100 different apps to other companies while M$ makes nothing.
Exactly. Hence why they let
On 2014-05-21 04:47, AndyHC wrote:
On 20/05/2014 22:08, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
On 2014-05-20 17:05, Stephen Russell wrote:
There wan't enough money for resources to fund Fox anymore. You buy
a copy
and sell 100 different apps to other companies while M$ makes
I wouldn't have minded if they disabled the DBF functionality, still
left the SQL and the in-memory cursors, and renamed the product Visual
BadgerPro. Yes, I would have bitched on how lame that was if Microsoft,
but at least a great product would still be supported while making SQL
Server
On 2014-05-21 10:10, Kevin Cully wrote:
I wouldn't have minded if they disabled the DBF functionality, still
left the SQL and the in-memory cursors, and renamed the product Visual
BadgerPro. Yes, I would have bitched on how lame that was if
Microsoft, but at least a great product would still be
Russell
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 4:21 AM
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On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Bill Arnold
billjarn...@h2officesolutions.com wrote:
Dave,
2. Real time debugger with the ability to change code on the fly
without
re-running
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
No way LHO killed JFK alone.
He was assisted by Elvis, Bruce Lee and Jim Morrison ;-)
Peter
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And of course the conspiracy theories were numerous. One I recall was
that Bill Gates wanted his VB and didn't want VFP to compete with it. I
find that a bit hard to believe, but I do like a good conspiracy theory.
And
On 2014-05-21 11:37, Peter Cushing wrote:
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
No way LHO killed JFK alone.
He was assisted by Elvis, Bruce Lee and Jim Morrison ;-)
You forgot Hitler too.
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Having met Ken Levy in Prague, I was not impressed. Was not a good speaker,
which for his job I would have expected. And a bit of a week character as
well. So I would be surprised if he could have a say.
Don't get me wrong, it is not an anti Ken comment as I could not do it
either. But I think he
That should have been weak not week. lol
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Subject: RE: What would you like
Having met Ken Levy in Prague, I was not impressed. Was not a good
:46
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That should have been weak not week. lol
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Sent: 20 May 2014 08:45
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: What would you like
Having
Dave,
2. Real time debugger with the ability to change code on the fly without
re-running the program
This would be my top pick. Under the covers it could let us make changes to
a copy of the actual program code with an option to save changes when the
debugging session
On Tue, May 20, 2014, at 08:11 AM, Bill Arnold wrote:
Re VFP is dead, what we need from MS is a declaration that VFP will
continue to work for the life of Windows. Call this support or
something
else.
Well, it's support. Which as we know is ending. So if some update to
Windows 7 or 8
Not that the kind of dead more's the pity. The kind of dead when the
competitors make a big deal about your programs written in a dead language.
We all know VFP works fine for now on win 8.1 even. But you can't beat lies.
Al
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Well, it's support. Which as we know is
Dave Crozier wrote:
Although having technical people act as marketing folk for products invariably brings in enthusiasm and obvious technical ability the best Marketing people are those who can play the business politics game and have/make contacts that are also political heavyweights.
Ah yes
Al,
So don't tell them ... the majority of customers don't give a stuff about
what/how it's written as long as it works.
Dave
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Sent: 20 May 2014 09:34
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: What would you
I don't tell them unless they ask. But my competitors know and they
certainly do tell. Along with backhanders I cannot afford. They also go on
about small companies. But they conveniently forget big ones go bust first
and are slow to respond. Maybe I should put that in my ad's.
My ex partner did
ROFL.
Indeed it does i have one of those meetings the 10th of june.
A+
jml
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Peter Cushing
pcush...@whisperingsmith.com wrote:
Kind of sums it up perfectly.
Peter
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Re VFP is dead, what we need from MS is a declaration that VFP will
continue to work for the life of Windows. Call this support or
something else.
Well, it's support. Which as we know is ending. So if some update to Windows
7 or 8 down the road breaks something fundamental we better
On 19 May 2014 22:16, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk wrote:
On the basis that VFP will never be updated now or taken over into the open
source world - whatever M$ say and promise...
What is it that you would like added into VFP that would make it once again
into a market leading product?
On 19 May 2014 22:16, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk wrote:
On the basis that VFP will never be updated now or taken over into the open
source world
- whatever M$ say and promise...
What is it that you would like added into VFP that would make it once again
into a
market leading
I would like 1. As I have Asian clients. I think 2. Is possible with AFP
now. And as for 3. I would like it the other way. Use VFP, tables at least
without OLDDB or whatever the buzzword is now, in dotnet
Al
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1. Unicode support (for Asian users)
2. Browser-based
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Bill Arnold
billjarn...@h2officesolutions.com wrote:
Dave,
2. Real time debugger with the ability to change code on the fly without
re-running the program
This would be my top pick. Under the covers it could let us make changes
You can change properties but not code as far as I know.
Al
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2. Real time debugger with the ability to change code on the fly
without
re-running the program
You already have that. What is the command window all about right?
Is this thread a wake?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR87LsmXzBs
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Allen pro...@gatwicksoftware.com wrote:
You can change properties but not code as far as I know.
Al
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2. Real time debugger with the ability to change code on
I have been involved recently with a lot of behaviour driven design with
Javascript. It has made me realize that there is definitely a gap that is
begging to be filled. In my opinion Foxpro/DBase is a database DSL and
should stay with its strengths. So what I would like, would be to forget
about
2014 12:30
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: What would you like
You can change properties but not code as far as I know.
Al
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2. Real time debugger with the ability to change code on the fly
without
re-running the program
You already have that. What
That Node.js looks really powerful Paul definitely worth looking into.
I never knew of its existence.
Dave
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On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:48 AM, Paul Hemans paul_hem...@laberg.com.auwrote:
I have been involved recently with a lot of behaviour driven design with
Javascript. It has made me realize that there is definitely a gap that is
begging to be filled. In my opinion Foxpro/DBase is a database DSL and
On 2014-05-20 04:34, Peter Cushing wrote:
http://laughingsquid.com/the-expert-a-hilarious-sketch-about-the-pain-of-being-the-only-engineer-in-a-business-meeting/
HILARIOUS!
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On Tue, May 20, 2014, at 03:34 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
Node.js looks interesting. I brought it up at a dev group meeting last
year but it was shot down because it was different.
Different? Half the world is using it and jquery.
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I am interested in something like this to create a UI in a browser.
However, I don't think Node.js is very good for my accounts receivable
relational database (VFP9 SP2) application. Here is what I found on this
page: http://www.toptal.com/nodejs/why-the-hell-would-i-use-node-js
Using
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fmwrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014, at 03:34 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
Node.js looks interesting. I brought it up at a dev group meeting last
year but it was shot down because it was different.
Different? Half the world
On 2014-05-20 13:04, Alan Bourke wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014, at 03:34 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
Node.js looks interesting. I brought it up at a dev group meeting
last
year but it was shot down because it was different.
Different? Half the world is using it and jquery.
Perhaps they M$
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:38 PM, kamcgin...@gmail.com kamcgin...@gmail.com
wrote:
I am interested in something like this to create a UI in a browser.
However, I don't think Node.js is very good for my accounts receivable
relational database (VFP9 SP2) application. Here is what I found on
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 1:49 PM,
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
On 2014-05-20 13:04, Alan Bourke wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014, at 03:34 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
Node.js looks interesting. I brought it up at a dev group meeting last
year but it was shot down because
M$ probably knew that, and because he was popular with the Fox
community, it was probably an appeasement move or something to shut them
up for a little while longer. Simply put: they didn't want the Fox to
succeed wildly...just enough but not more. See the comment about Bill
Gates losing
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 3:46 PM,
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
M$ probably knew that, and because he was popular with the Fox community,
it was probably an appeasement move or something to shut them up for a
little while longer. Simply put: they didn't want the Fox to
On 2014-05-20 17:05, Stephen Russell wrote:
There wan't enough money for resources to fund Fox anymore. You buy a
copy
and sell 100 different apps to other companies while M$ makes nothing.
Exactly. Hence why they let it wither and die on the vine.
Charging people for data is good $.
On Tue, May 20, 2014, at 10:05 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:
There wan't enough money for resources to fund Fox anymore. You buy a
copy
and sell 100 different apps to other companies while M$ makes nothing.
You can do that with the free versions of the dev tools and SQL Server.
I don't
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 4:08 PM,
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
On 2014-05-20 17:05, Stephen Russell wrote:
There wan't enough money for resources to fund Fox anymore. You buy a
copy
and sell 100 different apps to other companies while M$ makes nothing.
Exactly.
On the basis that VFP will never be updated now or taken over into the open
source world - whatever M$ say and promise...
What is it that you would like added into VFP that would make it once again
into a market leading product?
Just my 2 cents worth:
1. Simple integration into SQL and the
Hi Dave
I would go with 3 being that web services are a big part of what I do at the
moment. But it will still not resolve one even more important issue. That
the product is old hat. Yes ok we all know it isn't and that with Win 8.1,
stupid directories that need permissions aside, it works better
On 5/19/2014 7:16 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:
On the basis that VFP will never be updated now or taken over into the open
source world - whatever M$ say and promise...
What is it that you would like added into VFP that would make it once again
into a market leading product?
Just my 2 cents
+1... sometimes debugging reports is just a pain in the a*s!
Dave
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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Johnson
Sent: 19 May 2014 15:25
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: What would you like
On 5/19/2014 7:16 AM, Dave Crozier wrote
What brought this up, Dave?
On 2014-05-19 10:16, Dave Crozier wrote:
On the basis that VFP will never be updated now or taken over into the
open source world - whatever M$ say and promise...
What is it that you would like added into VFP that would make it once
again into a market leading
On 2014-05-19 10:23, Allen wrote:
Hi Dave
I would go with 3 being that web services are a big part of what I do
at the
moment. But it will still not resolve one even more important issue.
That
the product is old hat. Yes ok we all know it isn't and that with Win
8.1,
stupid directories that
that are available. Funny,
but I really never thought about that before.
Dave
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Subject: Re: What would you like
What brought
Cross platform. I don't want to develop for 90% of the desktops. I want
to develop applications for 99% of the desktops.
There was a time that Fox ran on DOS, Windows, Mac and Unix. It'd be
nice to have that again.
On 05/19/2014 10:16 AM, Dave Crozier wrote:
What is it that you would like
On 2014-05-19 10:59, Kevin Cully wrote:
Cross platform. I don't want to develop for 90% of the desktops. I
want to develop applications for 99% of the desktops.
There was a time that Fox ran on DOS, Windows, Mac and Unix. It'd be
nice to have that again.
Yep. Can there be any other reason
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On 2014-05-19 10:59, Kevin Cully wrote:
Cross platform. I don't want to develop for 90% of the desktops. I
want to develop applications
I recall someone (YAG?) mentioning that they only sold about 100 copies
of the SCO Unix licensed version of FP. Linux is much more popular of a
desktop now ... at about 3% market share. It's my preferred platform
and I really enjoy using Linux over Windows.
On 05/19/2014 11:12 AM, Dave
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:08 AM,
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
Yep. Can there be any other reason for them dropping Mac and Unix support
other than them not wanting apps for non-Windows systems (to keep the
Windows dominance)?
Never attribute to malice that which can
On Mon, May 19, 2014, at 03:16 PM, Dave Crozier wrote:
On the basis that VFP will never be updated now or taken over into the
open source world - whatever M$ say and promise...
When did they ever say anything about open sourcing it other than saying
'it won't be' when asked?
AT one point I figured that they bought Fox because of Rushmore - and
that it was faster than other PC Database system at the time - and that
they then used that Tech and implemented it into things like Access. But
- again - this is purely a guess...
-K-
On 5/19/2014 11:29 AM, Ted Roche
[mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke
Sent: 19 May 2014 16:36
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: What would you like
On Mon, May 19, 2014, at 03:16 PM, Dave Crozier wrote:
On the basis that VFP will never be updated now or taken over into the
open source world - whatever M$ say
Isn't a lot of VFP already open sourced? It's just the core C libraries
that aren't ... and never will be.
I was talking with another VFP developer the other day and we were
lamenting how much more difficult it is to develop desktop applications
now. Shouldn't software development be
think that VFP would be at the end of a very long
list but a list nevertheless!
Dave
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From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke
Sent: 19 May 2014 16:36
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: What would you like
On Mon, May 19, 2014
On 2014-05-19 11:43, Kevin Cully wrote:
Isn't a lot of VFP already open sourced? It's just the core C
libraries that aren't ... and never will be.
I was talking with another VFP developer the other day and we were
lamenting how much more difficult it is to develop desktop
applications now.
On Mon, May 19, 2014, at 04:43 PM, Kevin Cully wrote:
Isn't a lot of VFP already open sourced? It's just the core C libraries
that aren't ... and never will be.
I was talking with another VFP developer the other day and we were
lamenting how much more difficult it is to develop desktop
On Mon, May 19, 2014, at 04:38 PM, Dave Crozier wrote:
Alan,
They haven't ... but recent announcements like making .NET open source
have at least spread some hope that other products may be open sourced. I
would think that VFP would be at the end of a very long list but a
list
At 07:16 2014-05-19, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk wrote:
On the basis that VFP will never be updated now or taken over into
the open source world - whatever M$ say and promise...
What is it that you would like added into VFP that would make it
once again into a market leading product?
On 2014-05-19 18:12, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
At 07:16 2014-05-19, Dave Crozier da...@flexipol.co.uk wrote:
On the basis that VFP will never be updated now or taken over into the
open source world - whatever M$ say and promise...
What is it that you would like added into VFP that would make it
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