[Jprogramming] Documentation

2023-02-04 Thread Arthur Anger
Akinboo (and other interested parties)-- Several J programmers of varying experience levels have recognized that the large volume of J documentation is not optimally organized for easily finding the information relevant to particular needs. In recent months, a small group has started working on

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-22 Thread Devon McCormick
I think he was simply referring to a normal exit from J once he's done using it. For the "choking" case, what to do depends on the OS and the J interface one is using: for jconsole in emacs under Windows, I enter "Ctl-c Ctl-\". However, I have discovered ways to choke J so badly it locks up my ma

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-21 Thread Don Kelly
If in reference to 'exit' you are referring to J going of to never never land and not responding to anything- I fail to se where some J command is going to work. In Windows I can ctrl-alt-delete and shut down J (with loss of what I was doing) . Does this situation occur- yes , definitely, -like

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-21 Thread Murray Eisenberg
That seems a curious thing to say, given the alleged advantages of the brevity of J as contrasted with the prolixity of most conventional programming languages. At 21 Jan 2014 11:09:09 +0100, Jan-Pieter Jacobs wrote: > I agree that [standard library] documentation would probably be longer tha

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-21 Thread Ian Clark
...sorry, that should have been: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:jsoftware.com+stdlib (but the other google link was worthwhile too.) On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > The J Dictionary says: "It is convenient to supplement the *primitives*or > *primaries* provided in a

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-21 Thread Ian Clark
The J Dictionary says: "It is convenient to supplement the *primitives* or *primaries* provided in a language by *secondaries* whose names belong to an easily recognized class." http://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/intro28.htm I've always understood words you can rely on being there without th

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-21 Thread Devon McCormick
The language R starts up with some messages including this: Type 'demo()' for some demos, 'help()' for on-line help, or 'help.start()' for an HTML browser interface to help. Type 'q()' to quit R. On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Joe Bogner wrote: > Another solution is to enhance the experienc

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-21 Thread Joe Bogner
Another solution is to enhance the experience of jconsole. I get a blank screen that is ready for input when I start it up. if the repl had a bit of introductory language and a built-in help system to show the z_locale for example Something like: jconsole - version x - type help'' for help > he

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-21 Thread Murray Eisenberg
And just how is one supposed to discover the existence of “exit"? There’s a broader issue here: on the one hand, the disjointedness of the standard J documentation into General Info, Release Highlights, Vocabulary, User, Primer, etc.; and on the other hand, the lack of a search across the local

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-21 Thread Jan-Pieter Jacobs
I would be a huge fan of having standard library documentation. I agree that documentation would probably be longer than the code itself, but the time needed to read it would not. Size is not so much an issue anymore with the terabyte disks we have nowadays, the time we need to soak up all informat

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-21 Thread Roger Stokes
@Blake Thanks for taking the trouble to post your suggestion regarding LJ. I will give the matter some thought. Regards - Original Message - From: "Blake McBride" To: "Programming forum" Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 6:23 PM Subject: [Jprogramming] Docume

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-20 Thread Don Guinn
There is so much in the z locale that's not documented. The trouble is that the documentation would be many times the size of the definitions. Many one liners would require a paragraph or more to explain for a newbe. What to do? NuVoc is great. Maybe we can do that for z and other locals sometime i

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-20 Thread Devon McCormick
His point is that he cannot find reference to this in the documentation. On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Don Guinn wrote: > exit is already defined in the z locale. > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Devon McCormick >wrote: > > > This is a good point and it's been brought up before. I d

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-20 Thread Don Guinn
exit is already defined in the z locale. On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Devon McCormick wrote: > This is a good point and it's been brought up before. I define >q=: 2!:55 > and enter >q'' > to exit J but it's not standard. We should probably make "exit" more > accessible. > > > On M

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-20 Thread Devon McCormick
This is a good point and it's been brought up before. I define q=: 2!:55 and enter q'' to exit J but it's not standard. We should probably make "exit" more accessible. On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > Greetings, > > Just providing some feedback > > The fist th

[Jprogramming] Documentation on exiting J

2014-01-20 Thread Blake McBride
Greetings, Just providing some feedback The fist thing I wanted to know when I started J was how to exit. I did some research and discovered 2!:55. I then defined a verb and used that to exit. Therefore, in order to get a clean way to exit a new language, I had to learn what a verb is, wha

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-12-28 Thread Ric Sherlock
; >> > >> (Note that I have a verb named subsets defined in my personal startup > >> script) > >> > >> -Dan > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com > >> [mailt

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-12-26 Thread Y-01
Very good. I would like to explore your shares) Links on shares to the studio! On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Joey K Tuttle wrote: > I think it is cool. > > Oleg (author of task.ijs) produced lots of well thought out additions to > J. But even before his work, most of my use of J (especially

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-12-25 Thread Joey K Tuttle
I think it is cool. Oleg (author of task.ijs) produced lots of well thought out additions to J. But even before his work, most of my use of J (especially in terms of other people using my work) has been in J scripts. J script of two sorts - #! shell scripts and the same but invoked as cgi fr

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-12-25 Thread Y-01
a verb named subsets defined in my personal startup >> script) >> >> -Dan >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com >> [mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Y-01 >> Sent: Thursday,

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-11-29 Thread Y-01
> -Dan > > > -Original Message- > From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com > [mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Y-01 > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:55 PM > To: programm...@jsoftware.com > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Docum

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-11-29 Thread Dan Bron
01 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:55 PM To: programm...@jsoftware.com Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL New questions about documentation-releated things) How can we find all defined symbols by pattern? *example: A1=: i.10 bsome =: 2 bsome2 =: bsome + A1 f

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-11-29 Thread bob therriault
Have you used either Find or Find in Files… under the Edit menu? If you want to use wild cards such as * this becomes a little more difficult since they could be a valid part of the string. Hope this helps. Cheers, bob On 2012-11-29, at 11:54 AM, Y-01 wrote: > New questions about documentatio

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-11-29 Thread Y-01
New questions about documentation-releated things) How can we find all defined symbols by pattern? *example: A1=: i.10 bsome =: 2 bsome2 =: bsome + A1 find 'bs*' bsome bsome2 so, we need smth like 'find'. On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Zachary Elliott wrote: > a few quic

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-11-28 Thread Zachary Elliott
a few quick notes on https://github.com/zellio/j-mode The new version of j-mode is still under fairly rapid development. It is largely stable and functional albeit poorly documented. If you are planning on using it I would suggest checking for updates early and often at least for the next month or

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-11-28 Thread Devon McCormick
Zach's version is new as of about two weeks ago: https://github.com/zellio/j-mode . On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Y-01 wrote: > Devon, newer version of j-mode.el = > http://sourceforge.net/projects/j-mode/files/j-mode/0.3/? I use it too but > it's not a new at all (2004 y.). > > On Wed, Nov

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-11-28 Thread Y-01
Devon, newer version of j-mode.el = http://sourceforge.net/projects/j-mode/files/j-mode/0.3/? I use it too but it's not a new at all (2004 y.). On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Devon McCormick wrote: > I and at least a couple of other people use emacs. I'm currently trying > out a new version o

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-11-28 Thread Devon McCormick
I and at least a couple of other people use emacs. I'm currently trying out a new version of j-mode.el, thanks to one of our NYCJUG members, Zach Elliott. I haven't used JHS very much. On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Y-01 wrote: > Hi@everybody > > Whether there is a way to find definition of

Re: [Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-11-28 Thread bob therriault
One way to solve the change mode issue to access help is to already be in a browser and you can do that by running JHS 701 (which itself runs in a browser). Demo 9 (I think) within JHS shows a multiwindow display that might be bent into a shape to accommodate your needs. That's all I got :) Ch

[Jprogramming] Documentation in J REPL

2012-11-28 Thread Y-01
Hi@everybody Whether there is a way to find definition of some symbol without switching to browser. example: help '&' or help 'A.' and it will print short description (may be with short examples). mb there is a lib/addon that do it? Does JOD solve this problem? And what is the usual env