Clinical Decision Support Telecon cancelled

2012-05-23 Thread Matthias Samwald
Dear all, I have to cancel the Clinical Decision Support Teleconference this Thursday (because of conflicting schedules). I will follow up with an e-mail on recent progress. Best, Matthias

Re: RDF Schema / LODD mapping -- Re: New proposal: health & medical extensions to schema.org

2012-05-23 Thread Kerstin Forsberg
Skickat från min iPhone 23 maj 2012 kl. 23:55 skrev "Matthias Samwald" : > Dear all, > > I think these details are relevant for reasoning about patient data et > cetera., but the documentation of schema.org and the proposed medical > extensions make it very clear that they are not intended

Re: Evidence-based healthcare ontology and Cochrane systematic Reviews - A linked data project

2012-05-23 Thread Richard Boyce
Hi Chris, This is very exciting news! I am a Comparative Effectiveness Research scholar and see many interesting possibilities for Cochrane data as well as other datasets with systematic reviews (e.g., OHSU's Drug Effectiveness Review Project). Anita DeWaard (CC'd) is co-chair of the Scienti

Re: RDF Schema / LODD mapping -- Re: New proposal: health & medical extensions to schema.org

2012-05-23 Thread Matthias Samwald
Dear all, I think these details are relevant for reasoning about patient data et cetera., but the documentation of schema.org and the proposed medical extensions make it very clear that they are not intended for such tasks. I think that the issues highlighted here are not highly relevant for b

Evidence-based healthcare ontology and Cochrane systematic Reviews - A linked data project

2012-05-23 Thread Chris Mavergames
Hello W3C Semantic Web HCLSIG, My name is Chris Mavergames and I'm the Director of Web Development for The Cochrane Collaboration (www.cochrane.org ), an international, non-profit healthcare research organisation dedicated to producing systema

Re: RDF Schema / LODD mapping -- Re: New proposal: health & medical extensions to schema.org

2012-05-23 Thread Stuart Turner
A patient (human or non-human) continues to be a patient after their death. Medical procedures continue (e.g. autopsy/necropsy). Medical records are revised and persisted naturally, and by law. A death certificate is issued. And so on. HL7 modeling isn't ideal for guidance here, especially when

Re: RDF Schema / LODD mapping -- Re: New proposal: health & medical extensions to schema.org

2012-05-23 Thread Luciano, Joanne S.
Thanks Stuart. On May 23, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Stuart Turner wrote: > A patient (human or non-human) continues to be a patient after their death. > Medical procedures continue (e.g. autopsy/necropsy). Medical records are > revised and persisted naturally, and by law. A death certificate is issued.

Re: RDF Schema / LODD mapping -- Re: New proposal: health & medical extensions to schema.org

2012-05-23 Thread Luciano, Joanne S.
Do they? The body does. The memory doesn't, in digital space: What happens to their data? Does their data disappear? Their medical record? They "were" a patient. Not sure what that means - maybe we need, in addition to is_a a new class was_a (for the has beens). some things to muse about.

Re: RDF Schema / LODD mapping -- Re: New proposal: health & medical extensions to schema.org

2012-05-23 Thread Jim McCusker
Indeed, the patient IS the person, just that if they stop being a patient, they don't stop being that person. We have been looking very closely at this in the provenance working group, since state changes figure very prominently into the provenance of a thing. Ownership is an example of that. We de

RE: RDF Schema / LODD mapping -- Re: New proposal: health & medical extensions to schema.org

2012-05-23 Thread Solbrig, Harold R.
Although, if the patient dies, the person goes away as well, no? ;-) From: public-semweb-lifesci-requ...@listhub.w3.org [mailto:public-semweb-lifesci-requ...@listhub.w3.org] On Behalf Of R. Cornet Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:26 PM To: Michel Dumontier; Freimuth, Robert, Ph.D. Cc: Jim McCus

RE: RDF Schema / LODD mapping -- Re: New proposal: health & medical extensions to schema.org

2012-05-23 Thread R. Cornet
I would say that if you follow ontoclean, being a patient is a non-rigid property of a person. Ronald Ronald Cornet, PhDemail: r.cor...@amc.uva.nl dept. of Medical Informatics phone: +31 (0)20 566 5188

Re: RDF Schema / LODD mapping -- Re: New proposal: health & medical extensions to schema.org

2012-05-23 Thread Michel Dumontier
If you follow ontoclean [1], then all you need to know is that if not all people are patients, then patients is a subtype of people. m. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OntoClean On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Freimuth, Robert, Ph.D. < freimuth.rob...@mayo.edu> wrote: > > For instance, Phys

RE: RDF Schema / LODD mapping -- Re: New proposal: health & medical extensions to schema.org

2012-05-23 Thread Freimuth, Robert, Ph.D.
> For instance, Physicians are not the same thing as Patients, but a Patient > can also be a Physician. and a physician can be a patient, both of which are roles that entities can play. IMO, this illustrates the importance of defining roles and entities separately (rather than through inh

Re: RDF Schema / LODD mapping -- Re: New proposal: health & medical extensions to schema.org

2012-05-23 Thread Jim McCusker
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Aaron Brown wrote: > Ok. But I still don't see why this needs to be specified explicitly. > Otherwise, wouldn't it also be necessary to specify that a MedicalEntity is > disjoint from a Movie, a SocialEvent, a DryCleaningOrLaundry, etc? It seems > to get out of ha

LOPSTR'12 deadline extension

2012-05-23 Thread Jon Sneyers
LOPSTR'12 DEADLINE EXTENSION 22nd International Symposium on Logic-Based Program Synthesis and Transformation LOPSTR 2012 http://costa.ls.fi.upm.es/lopstr

Re: Reminder: SysBio Wednesday 11AM ET / 4PM GMT / 5PM CET

2012-05-23 Thread Jun Zhao
Dear Michael, It is great to hear from you and very encouraging to see your interest! And thank you for recommending some of the contact points. I believe Nicolas has already come over and give us a presentation a while ago on SBML:) It's a pity that we'll have to miss you in today's call, b

Re: Reminder: SysBio Wednesday 11AM ET / 4PM GMT / 5PM CET

2012-05-23 Thread Jun Zhao
Hi Katy, Thanks for letting me know and all the useful pointers! This is an exploratory call. If you spotted anything that we could tie up together with SysMo project please give me a shout. Will be really nice to link up things together! Cheers, Jun On 23/05/2012 11:39, Katy Wolstencroft

Re: Reminder: SysBio Wednesday 11AM ET / 4PM GMT / 5PM CET

2012-05-23 Thread Michael Hucka
Hello, I've been meaning to introduce myself to the Systems Biology Task Force for some time, and I apologize for taking so long. As one of the creators of SBML and several other community standardization efforts, as well as having help start BioModels Database itself, you can imagine the topi

Re: Reminder: SysBio Wednesday 11AM ET / 4PM GMT / 5PM CET

2012-05-23 Thread Katy Wolstencroft
Hi Jun and all, Apologies, I can't join you today, but it is an interesting topic. On the subject of aligning related models, there is some nice work from Edda Klipp's group that you might want to look at (the makers of Semantic SBML) BMC Bioinformatics.