Re: GO_REF URI prefix?

2013-07-25 Thread Chris Mungall
Obviously the current URLs aren't very linked data friendly. E.g. http://www.geneontology.org/cgi-bin/references.cgi#GO_REF:026 We would most likely end up having the prefix be something under the GO purl, e.g. http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/go/reference/ It hasn't been our highest priority.

Re: biontology.org Linked Data URIs?

2013-05-28 Thread Chris Mungall
The OBO library subset of bio-ontologies have URIs that conform to linked data norms. E.g. http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/GO_0006264 - mitochondrial DNA replication http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/CL_617 - GABAergic neuron http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/MP_0002766 - situs inversus http://pur

Re: VCF and RDF, at Clinical Pharmacogenomics TF, Wed Apr 3rd

2013-04-01 Thread Chris Mungall
Apologies if this has been covered already I haven't been following the whole discussion. Genome variant data is just a subset of genome data. My understanding is that the semweb BioHackathon group looked at a variety of different kinds of genomic data and came up with FALDO[1]. This model loo

Re: OMIM

2012-08-07 Thread Chris Mungall
Hi Michael I can't seem to connect to the triplestore. Have you considered adding associations between OMIM and phenotype ontology classes? These can be downloaded from http://www.human-phenotype-ontology.org/ as tab delimited files that can trivially be converted to an rdf model of choice (we

Re: reasoning on gene ontology

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Mungall
Hi Bin, We use OWL reasoning extensively within the GO consortium, primarily for automated classification of new terms, and for validation of the ontology and gene associations. For some more background, see PMID:20152934 and PMID:20973947 (note that in those papers we used some custom reasoning t

Re: [BioRDF] W3C Note on expression RDF

2011-11-07 Thread Chris Mungall
On Nov 7, 2011, at 2:03 PM, M. Scott Marshall wrote: > Dear BioRDF, > I've pasted the minutes from our last meeting below. You can find them here: > http://www.w3.org/2011/10/24-HCLS-minutes.html > Part of the discussion that isn't available in the minutes below was > agreement that NGS express

Re: Relations in RDF

2011-05-05 Thread Chris Mungall
e a general purpose macro language as a W3C standard, from which these simpler approaches could be defined. On May 4, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Mark Wilkinson wrote: > Chris, that's beautiful!! Well done! > > > M > > > On Wed, 04 May 2011 14:27:30 -0700, Chris Mungall wrote: &

Re: Relations in RDF

2011-05-04 Thread Chris Mungall
A number of ontologies are starting to use "shortcut" relations. These are expanded to more complex class expressions prior to OWL reasoning: http://precedings.nature.com/documents/5292/version/1 http://berkeleybop.org/~cjm/obo2owl/obo-syntax.html#7 On May 4, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Mark Wilkinson wro

Re: [biordf] DBpedia-OBO mapping, additions to HCLS KB

2009-04-16 Thread Chris Mungall
On Apr 16, 2009, at 4:06 AM, Matthias Samwald wrote: __ DBpedia - OBO mapping __ I have created a script that generates a mapping between OBO ontologies and DBpedia, based on cross-references to Wikipedia contained in some OBO ontologies. This amounts to a meager ~430 mapping relations.

Re: blog: semantic dissonance in uniprot

2009-03-26 Thread Chris Mungall
d this metadata. When OWL2 is established the official mapping will switch to using axiom annotations instead of the n-ary relations pattern. -=Michel=- -Original Message- From: public-semweb-lifesci-requ...@w3.org [mailto:public-semweb- lifesci-requ...@w3.org] On Behalf Of Chr

Re: blog: semantic dissonance in uniprot

2009-03-26 Thread Chris Mungall
On Mar 26, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Michel_Dumontier wrote: The Gene Ontology says a Protein (GO:0003675) is a Thing (the entity was removed, but then later added so the identifier wouldn't be reused) More accurately: very early versions of the GO had a term named "protein", but this was obsolet

Re: DBpedia to OBO mapping: did someone already work on it?

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Mungall
I don't know that much about how DBpedia is generated, but many OBO Ontologies have reasonably complete xref mappings to Wikipedia. GO ENVO PATO UBERON ... plus a few more It would presumably be a simple syntactic translation to dbpedia URIs On Mar 25, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Matthias Samwald wr

Re: Is there an NCBI taxonomy in OWL ?

2009-02-27 Thread Chris Mungall
iProt records for DRs for free. -Kei Alan Ruttenberg wrote: So I count three different sets of URIs for NCBI taxonomy so far. :( -Alan On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Chris Mungall wrote: also.. part of the NCBI taxonomy is in NIF Organism: http://ontology.neuinfo.org/NIF/Biomaterial

Re: Is there an NCBI taxonomy in OWL ?

2009-02-26 Thread Chris Mungall
! It'2 240M, but compressed is only 9. I wonder whether there is some architecture to transparently transfer compressed ontologies... Ciao, Andrea -Original Message- From: Chris Mungall [mailto:c...@berkeleybop.org] Sent: 25 February 2009 20:53 To: andrea splendiani (RRes-Roth) Cc: p

Re: Is there an NCBI taxonomy in OWL ?

2009-02-25 Thread Chris Mungall
im. I know others who would be interested in a similar resource. Ciao, Andrea -Original Message- From: Chris Mungall [mailto:c...@berkeleybop.org] Sent: 25 February 2009 20:53 To: andrea splendiani (RRes-Roth) Cc: public-semweb-lifesci hcls Subject: Re: Is there an NCBI taxonomy in OWL ?

Re: Is there an NCBI taxonomy in OWL ?

2009-02-25 Thread Chris Mungall
On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Andrea Splendiani wrote: Hi, I was looking for an NCBI Taxnomoy in OWL, but I didn't find it (or better, could find fragment from other projects...) What is strange though, is that on the obo foundry website (berkeleybop.org/ontologies) there are notes on th

Re: [ANN] News from the FlyWeb Project

2008-11-06 Thread Chris Mungall
Hi Alistair The UI is very nice! I'm curious that you don't include any ontologies. The source datasets are quite ontology-centric (the Chado database in particular). The BDGP data includes annotation of each individual image with terms from fly_anatomy. This allows you to query for genes

Re: SenseLab note: some updates

2008-05-15 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 15, 2008, at 4:39 PM, Kei Cheung wrote: Hi Vipul, Take the snomed term "Alzheimer's disease" (AD), for example. One axis may be used to indicate the progression of the disease. For example, http://www.memorystudy.org/alzheimers_stages.htm lists 7 stages of Alzheimer's disease: n

Re: GO as RDF properties

2008-03-13 Thread Chris Mungall
On Mar 12, 2008, at 9:06 PM, Tore Eriksson wrote: Hi, I am contemplating how to represent biochemical reactions in RDF, and I have some questions about properties and subproperties that I hope anyone could shed some light on. What I want to do is to model reactions and the involved ent

Re: Trust in statements (still is BioRDF Brainstorming)

2008-02-13 Thread Chris Mungall
On Feb 13, 2008, at 2:14 PM, M. Scott Marshall wrote: Dear Matt, I see 'trust' as a 'view' that can be produced by running a filter over the data (provenance). The filter would implement my trust policy, or one of them. In other words, my trust in a given 'agent' can be due to the fact th

Re: BioRDF Brainstorming

2008-02-12 Thread Chris Mungall
On Feb 12, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: On Feb 12, 2008, at 8:59 AM, Colin Batchelor wrote: How do you propose we cope with hedging, that is "It is not impossible that bananas are green", "Taken together, these results would indicate that bananas are blue" and so forth? This

Fwd: [ANN] LENA: Lens-based RDF Browser

2007-10-10 Thread Chris Mungall
Sorry to repost something from a list many of you are already subscribed to; however, this seems like it warrants some specific discussion on this list. I know many of you have been wrapping various biological datasources as RDF - I have been doing the same, using the usual suspects such

Re: I read a challenge. was, Re: [gofriends] GO ontology in OWL format

2007-09-14 Thread Chris Mungall
On Sep 14, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: Seen on the gofriends list: On Sep 12, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Chris Mungall wrote: Let me also give you some information on the results of our experiments using OWL and Sesame, as part of a different project outside GO. Triplestores such

Re: [hcls] User interfaces for writing / querying RDF: Leeet

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Mungall
Hi Matthias This is very nice. Not sure about the name though. Shouldn't it be L33TSP34K? What group are you targeting? SPARQL syntax isn't bad enough to put off hardcore data miners. And for the less techie folks I think the main stumbling block isn't so much the syntax as the semantics

Re: Rules (was Re: Ambiguous names. was: Re: URL +1, LSID -1)

2007-07-17 Thread Chris Mungall
On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:44 AM, Eric Jain wrote: Chris Mungall wrote: We have also switched from talk of defining specific proteins to rules to automatically annotate protein records. You're right, small digression, hope it's of interest anyway :-) Definitely - although I don&#

Re: Rules (was Re: Ambiguous names. was: Re: URL +1, LSID -1)

2007-07-16 Thread Chris Mungall
On Jul 16, 2007, at 10:29 AM, Eric Jain wrote: Bijan Parsia wrote: Eric, I would be very much interested in some more details about the sort of rules used and how they are used. I personally tend to distinguish between the use of rules in modeling and the use of rules for data munging t

Re: Seeking Help with finding an assertion

2007-07-05 Thread Chris Mungall
On Jul 4, 2007, at 8:27 PM, Kei Cheung wrote: As a follow-up example, a study for estimating the error rate of Gene Ontology (GO) was done: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi? artid=1892569#id2674403 The study showed that the GO term annotation error rate estimates f

Re: Evidence

2007-06-21 Thread Chris Mungall
On Jun 21, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Pat Hayes wrote: Which simplifies things enormously and means that busy, practical biologists don't have to keep wondering whether the Krebs cycle or a computer program is a continuant or an occurrent Why would a busy, practical biologist ever wonder if a comp

Re: [hcls] Encyclopedia of Life & possible interaction with the HCLSIG

2007-06-07 Thread Chris Mungall
Hi Matthias I don't know much about EOL other than what is available on their website. I do know that the ATOL (assembling the tree of life project) and NESCENT have made a lot of progress addressing a lot of the tricky ontological issues regarding anatomy, homology and phylogeny, which

Re: Using Labels in SPARQL

2007-06-01 Thread Chris Mungall
On Jun 1, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Bijan Parsia wrote: Looking at some of the queries in: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/Banff2007Demo? action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Banff2007Part2.pdf I am reminded again of the practice of using gensyms for the URIs of terms, e.g.,: ?class rdfs:subCl

Re: [Obo-format] [hcls] Harmonization of labels, descriptions and definitions

2007-05-29 Thread Chris Mungall
27, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: lsw *is* aware of OBO in OWL and uses, e.g. OBO definitions for comments when formatting display text such as tooltips :) -Alan On May 25, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Chris Mungall wrote: ..but of course this doesn't help if you're using p4, swoo

Re: [hcls] Harmonization of labels, descriptions and definitions

2007-05-25 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 25, 2007, at 8:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [2] For instance, definitions in the PATO OWL file (quality.owl) are not visible in Protege. The OWL version of PATO has an AnnotationProperty called "oboInOwl:hasDefintion" that has the value "@_:A4843". I and some other people have a

Re: [hcls] Harmonization of labels, descriptions and definitions

2007-05-25 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 25, 2007, at 8:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [2] For instance, definitions in the PATO OWL file (quality.owl) are not visible in Protege. The OWL version of PATO has an AnnotationProperty called "oboInOwl:hasDefintion" that has the value "@_:A4843". note there is a protege3 plugin

Re: Adding addition OWL & RDF artifacts to the NC RDF repository

2007-05-24 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 24, 2007, at 11:36 AM, William Bug wrote: Hi Alan, Here's the GO/NCBO/Berkeley list that Chris Mungall curates (a page I'm certain you've been to many times): http://www.berkeleybop.org/ontologies/ As you know, it contains - among a host of other XML-based

Re: [hcls] Temporal relations, n-ary relations, 4D ontologies

2007-05-22 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 22, 2007, at 9:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In AFO: - . . - Of course, cytoplasm probably also be a full temporal part of a cytoplasm. I did not make that any more explicit, because it does not matter for this example. It would matter even less when we are mak

Re: [hcls] Temporal relations, n-ary relations, 4D ontologies

2007-05-22 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 22, 2007, at 8:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have changed the title of the mail, since the discussion has moved away from the BMC Bioinformatics paper. First of all, RDF and OWL have no special features for n-ary relations (RDF reification is not practical for that), and in m

Re: Advancing translational research with the Semantic Web

2007-05-22 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 22, 2007, at 6:11 AM, Marijke Keet wrote: The history of computing is the history of "design patterns" at one level that eventually get built into "higher level languages" at the next level of abstraction up. I think I have a less optimistic view of progress in computer s

Re: Advancing translational research with the Semantic Web

2007-05-21 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 21, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Pat Hayes wrote: >>>>> "CM" == Chris Mungall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Out of curiosity, can you describe how different or similar this >> is to the result that you can achieve in the N-ary relation >

Re: Advancing translational research with the Semantic Web

2007-05-21 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 20, 2007, at 11:49 PM, Alan Rector wrote: Chris On 18 May 2007, at 18:10, Chris Mungall wrote: I'm afraid I'm unclear how to state the OWL n-ary relation pattern (http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-n-aryRelations) where I really need it. In all the examples given, the &qu

Re: Advancing translational research with the Semantic Web

2007-05-18 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 17, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Pat Hayes wrote: On 17 May 2007, at 05:13, Chris Mungall wrote: [snip] I've never understood why RDF-reification is so loathed. So the syntax is ugly - but I think there may be other reasons RDF/XML hasn't won any beauty contests. They are fairly u

Re: Evidence for backing statements

2007-05-18 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 18, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Dan Brickley wrote: Matt Williams wrote: I've been lurking & reading the discussion with interest. It might be worth pointing out that there is an ongoing attempt to classify/ represent evidential links/ weight/ etc. started in the legal domain by people suc

Re: Advancing translational research with the Semantic Web

2007-05-18 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 18, 2007, at 1:16 AM, Marijke Keet wrote: Staying with article comments but going off topic from this thread, there were two aspects in particular that read oddly and raises more questions than that it provides information. One about the BioRDF, the other the ontology working group

Re: Advancing translational research with the Semantic Web

2007-05-18 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 18, 2007, at 3:40 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: "MK" == Marijke Keet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MK> Regarding “reification design patterns” and the reification & MK> OWL (not the thorny logic-based representation of beliefs et MK> al), permit me to mention that support for n-ary re

Re: Advancing translational research with the Semantic Web

2007-05-16 Thread Chris Mungall
On May 16, 2007, at 12:16 PM, Pat Hayes wrote: The association is done by the reification using a URI which is intended to identify the triple. However, there is no 'standard' way to associate a URI with an RDF triple. This is exactly the problem that named graphs were proposed as a way t

Re: Demo SPARQL notes

2007-04-17 Thread Chris Mungall
On Apr 17, 2007, at 10:49 AM, William Bug wrote: I with Bijan on this issue. However complex the current OWL representation may appear, it's considerably more terse than the expression of this same info in a relational model. I'm not sure if this is necessarily the case. If we are talki

Re: Demo SPARQL notes

2007-04-17 Thread Chris Mungall
Looking at "Creating class level relations for easier querying of the GO" The problem you are solving is the one of limited inferencing in RDF engines; in particular, queries such as: SELECT * WHERE { ?whole rdfs:subClassOf ?sub. ?sub rdf:type owl:Restriction. ?sub owl:onProper

Re: Bio-RDF 9 April 2007 conference call minutes posted

2007-04-10 Thread Chris Mungall
On Apr 10, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Elizabeth Wu wrote: Bio-RDF 9 April 2007 conference call minutes is posted at http:// esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Meetings/ 2007-04-09_Conference_Call. I saw mention of the GO MySQL Database; As Alan pointed out, GO is already available in RDF (b

Re: updated updated bams model

2007-03-26 Thread Chris Mungall
I have some comments on: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/ HCLSIG_DemoHomePage_HCLSIG_Demo#head-50710462ea5aac416fd063dce8621ce0354 d2d5a Formal Definition of Semantics OWL and RDF have a formal definition for the semantics of an OWL/ RDF knowledge base, i.e., given a knowledge base, associat

Re: cell types, brain regions mentioned in gensat

2007-03-02 Thread Chris Mungall
Umm, the OBO Cell ontology? There are a few ontological issues with OBO-Cell right now, but these are currently being addressed. There are also efforts within OBO to link cells with the brain regions they are part of, although these are currently focused on model organisms. On Mar 2, 200

Re: A problem-oriented medical record OWL ontology

2006-12-06 Thread Chris Mungall
;ll make contact with the OBI group, since this all falls within the realm of biomedical investigations, and should be represented in OBI. I think what Chimezie has done is entirely compatible Cheers Chris On Dec 6, 2006, at 11:20 AM, William Bug wrote: Hi Trish, This is a very informal ef

Re: using OBO in owl format to describe data

2006-10-11 Thread Chris Mungall
Hi Mary I invite you to submit your comments to the obo-format list, where we are close to finalising a new version of the obof->owl mapping http://www.bioontology.org/wiki/index.php/OboInOwl:Main_Page On Oct 10, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Mary Montoya wrote: I have a question about using the Op

Re: Performance issues with OWL Reasoners

2006-09-14 Thread chris mungall
On Sep 14, 2006, at 10:26 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: This paper for example, managed to get the Gene Ontology and, I think, all of GOA into a DL form and reason over it in a, er, reasonable amount of time. So scalability to 10's of thousands of T-box and 100's of thousands of A-Box's is possible.

Re: A question on the vocabulary for 'persons' - ACL level of granularity?

2006-09-14 Thread chris mungall
On Sep 14, 2006, at 10:36 AM, Drew McDermott wrote: [Chimezie Ogbuji] Seems to me the biggest barrier is in coming to a consensus on an appropriate placeholder vocabulary and not neccessarily on determining all the various ways in which a person (and their related data) could be expre

Re: [HCLS-ACPP] Weekly Tcon today - 1:00-2:00pm

2006-08-01 Thread chris mungall
Note that the GO evidence codes are a subset of the evidence codes available on OBO: http://obo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/detail.cgi?evidence_code On Aug 1, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Joanne Luciano wrote: Hi, Here's a short list of Evidence Code / Ontology Links/papers: 1. SRI/Peter Karp - the B

Re: ontology specs for self-publishing experiment

2006-07-07 Thread chris mungall
On Jul 7, 2006, at 3:35 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: "TW" == Trish Whetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TW> Hi all, TW> As a terribly simple question, is it possible to take the actual TW> FuGE-ML that is generated on a per instance reporting of an TW> experiment/study/investigation and

Re: NeuroNames [was: slides for the UMLS presentation]

2006-06-06 Thread chris mungall
Hi Bill Just a minor clarification - the neurodevelopment ontology will not be distinct from GO, it will be part of the GO biological process ontology (and thus part of the OBO Foundry) and available as OWL Cheers Chris On Jun 6, 2006, at 7:57 AM, William Bug wrote: Oops - I forgot t

Re: proposal for standard NCBI database URI

2006-05-12 Thread chris mungall
On May 11, 2006, at 4:18 PM, Matthias Samwald wrote: Hmm, the 10^16 genes instantiated in the volume of space occupied by me are neither irrelevant (to me anyway), nor are they concepts. They are very real instances of physical material objects - at least under one definition of gene.

Re: proposal for standard NCBI database URI

2006-05-11 Thread chris mungall
On May 11, 2006, at 6:58 AM, Xiaoshu Wang wrote: --Chris Genes should have their own URIs? That's some 10^16 or so URIs just for the volume of space that I'm occupying right now. So what is the problem? There are more concepts exist in the world than each of us know. Does it limit ourse

Re: proposal for standard NCBI database URI

2006-05-10 Thread chris mungall
On May 10, 2006, at 6:32 AM, Xiaoshu Wang wrote: --Phil, Also, it's not clear what it meant by "same thing". An genbank record and embl record identifying the same piece of DNA are not the same thing; they are different records. Given that this is the semantic web, it might be nice to be a

Re: [rdf] Re: proposal for standard NCBI database URI

2006-05-09 Thread chris mungall
One other thing to bear in mind is that many of the IDs that are purported to be NCBI nucleotide sequence IDs are actually NCBI/EMBL/ DDBJ IDs. See http://www.insdc.org/ Presumably the ID scheme should reflect this?

Re: [BiONT][BioRDF] Mussels

2006-05-04 Thread chris mungall
Hi Steve What's the advantage in using a wikispecies URI over an NCBI Taxon ID? Of course with the taxon ID we would need a conversion of the NCBI taxonomy to OWL classes, which is fairly trivial, and there a number of such conversions around (and ideally there would be some kind of ontol

Re: [BioRDF] XSLT or XQuery?

2006-03-04 Thread chris mungall
On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:33 AM, Duncan Hull wrote: Matthias Samwald wrote: XSLT definitly is not sufficient for such conversions, I agree. XQuery, however, is much more powerful than XSLT and has most features of a 'full blown programming language'. If you're trying to decide between XSL

Re: [BioRDF] Meeting Notes Feb 27, 2006

2006-03-01 Thread chris mungall
I see OMIM was proposed as a test case. I'm interested in this. I'm not entirely sure what it means to put OMIM disease descriptions into RDF though. One approach that springs to mind is simple binary mapping between OMIM IDs and, say, UMLS IDs. The question of whether RDF is used here s

Introduction

2006-03-01 Thread chris mungall
Hi Everyone I'm Chris Mungall, and I'm based at Lawrence Berkeley Labs. I'm part of the Gene Ontology Consortium, and the National Center for Biomedical Ontologies. One of the things I'm interested in is storage and querying of large datasets annotated and modeled u