Re: Request for participation in W3C widgets standard

2011-08-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Ronny - to formally participate in the Web Applications WG, your company must first join the W3C and information about that process can be found in [1]. Re W3C widgets, I consider the v1 specs functionally complete with the exception of the Widget Update specs. See [2] for the status of

Reminder: RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL; deadline August 23

2011-08-12 Thread Arthur Barstow
:14:30 + Resent-From:public-script-co...@w3.org Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:14:00 -0400 From: ext Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com Reply-To: public-script-coord public-script-co...@w3.org To: public-webapps public-webapps@w3.org, public-script-coord public-script-co...@w3.org

Re: Rescinding the DOM 2 View Recommendation?

2011-08-12 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 8/10/11 6:02 PM, ext Doug Schepers wrote: After discussion with PLH and Ian Jacobs, and I don't think it's necessary for us to go through the additional overhead of rescinding the DOM 2 View specification. Instead, PLH and I support Anne's original proposal to simply update the status

Re: [WebIDL] remove modules

2011-08-12 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Paddy, If modules are removed from the Web IDL spec, what running code e.g. browsers, web/widget runtimes, IDEs, test cases, etc. will no longer comply with the spec (looking for real breakages here)? If WAC needs that type of functionality, could they define their own IDL extension?

RfC: how to organize the DOM specs [Was: CfC: publish new WD of DOM Core]

2011-08-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
features be spec'ed separately, please indicate your willingness and availability to contribute as an editor vis-à-vis the editor requirements above. -ArtB On 8/4/11 2:24 PM, ext Adrian Bateman wrote: On Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:12 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote: Anne would like to publish a new WD

Re: Permission Systems across APIs

2011-08-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Philippe, Thanks for notifying us of ENISA's work. I generally agree W3C specs should be as consistent as possible and practical. If there is a need for WebApps WG to coordinate with some other group, please be more specific about the issue. FYI, the Geolocation API is specified by the

Re: Restricted Contexts (private browsing / sandbox)

2011-08-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
Philippe - if there any specific issues for WebApps' specs [PubStatus], please start a new thread on public-webapps with an appropriate subject. -ArtB [PubStatus] http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/PubStatus On 8/3/11 1:49 PM, ext Philippe De Ryck wrote: The following comment contains

CfC: publish LCWD of Server-sent Events spec; deadline August 17

2011-08-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
Given Hixie's recent set of bug fixes, the Server-sent Events spec now has zero bugs. As such, it appears this spec is ready to proceed on the Recommendation track and this is a Call for Consensus to publish a new LCWD of this spec using the following ED as the basis:

Rescinding the DOM 2 View Recommendation?

2011-08-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
Anne, Ms2ger, All, Anne and others proposed in [Proposal] the DOM 2 View Recommendation [D2V] be rescinded. The rescinding process is defined in the Process Document [Rescind]. However, Ian Jacobs just indicated in IRC [#webapps] it has never actually been used. One process requirement for

RfC: LCWD of Progress Events; deadline September 1

2011-08-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
On August 9, WebApps published LCWD #2 of the Progress Events spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-progress-events-20110809/ The comment deadline is September 1. Please send all comments to: public-webapps@w3.org -AB

Re: Reference to the HTML specification

2011-08-05 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 8/5/11 8:50 AM, ext Philippe Le Hegaret wrote: On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 08:22 -0400, Arthur Barstow wrote: On 8/4/11 11:47 AM, ext Philippe Le Hegaret wrote: Several documents in the WebApps Working Group are linking to HTML, more specifically to the WHATWG HTML specification. An example

Re: [XHR]

2011-08-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 8/2/11 12:08 PM, ext gk...@gurpreetkaur.org wrote: My Suggestions for XMLHttpRequest Document Page... 1) W3C Editor's Draft (red vertical bar on the left)- Draft is something when you are putting things together. It's not a final product. It should be renamed or removed. You are correct

Re: [XHR]

2011-08-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 8/2/11 1:09 PM, ext gk...@gurpreetkaur.org wrote: XMLHttpRequest Document: ECMAScriptHTTPAPI- ECMASCRIPT takes you to the following.. http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-262.htm This is a specification for ECMA script. Yes, that's correct. Where is the actual

Re: [websockets] Making optional extensions mandatory in the API (was RE: Getting WebSockets API to Last Call)

2011-07-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 7/25/11 5:05 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote: From the discussion here, it sounds like there are problems with WebSockets compression as currently defined. Yes, this is what I have concluded too (and if we are wrong, I would appreciate it if someone on the hybi list would please clarify).

CfC: publish Last Call WD of Progress Events; deadline August 2

2011-07-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
The pre-LC comment period for Progress Events resulted in no comments [1]. As such, Anne proposes a new LC be published and this is a CfC to do so: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/progress/ This CfC satisfies the group's requirement to record the group's decision to request advancement for

Re: From-Origin FPWD

2011-07-22 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 7/22/11 11:08 AM, ext Anne van Kesteren wrote: The WebApps WG published the From-Origin header proposal as FPWD: http://www.w3.org/TR/from-origin/ The main open issue is whether X-Frame-Options should be replaced by this header or should absorb its functionality somehow. Anne - what

RfC: Last Call of Page Visibility API; deadline August 18

2011-07-22 Thread Arthur Barstow
On July 21, the Web Performance WG published a Last Call Working Draft of the Page Visibility spec and WebApps has been asked to review it, especially its usage of Web IDL: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-page-visibility-20110721/ Individual WG members are encouraged to provide individual

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-21 Thread Arthur Barstow
Regarding the bugs Adrian identified in the e-mail below, here is my take on the status: * Resolved: NeedsInfo: 9973, 12180, 13104; WontFix: 12816, 13178 * Moved to another component: 10213 * Open and considered Editorial (thus will not block LC): 12510, 13162, 13180 and 13172 (not in Adrian's

Re: [websockets] Making optional extensions mandatory in the API (was RE: Getting WebSockets API to Last Call)

2011-07-21 Thread Arthur Barstow
Bug 12917 [1] has been discussed in at least bugzilla as well as e-mail including this thread started by Adrian (Hixie's follow-up is [2]) and Adrian's general Web Sockets LC thread [3]. This bug is currently resolved as WontFix and this resolution is supported by at least Hixie and Jonas.

Re: Seeking view-mode Media Feature implementation data

2011-07-20 Thread Arthur Barstow
FYI, Marcos now has sufficient data to meet the CR's exit criteria and to move this spec to Proposed Recommendation: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vmmf/imp-report/ On 7/19/11 9:46 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: [ Bcc www-style ] Marcos is gathering and organizing implementation data

CfC: publish Proposed Recommendation of view-mode Media Feature; deadline July 27

2011-07-20 Thread Arthur Barstow
As mentioned in [1], the exit criteria of the view-mode Media Feature Candidate Recommendation [2] has been met (at least two implementations pass every test): http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vmmf/imp-report/ As such, this is Call for Consensus to publish a Proposed Recommendation (PR)

[websockets] Reminder: review Web Socket Protocol v10; deadline July 25

2011-07-19 Thread Arthur Barstow
A reminder to review the Web Socket Protocol v10 spec by July 25: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hybi-thewebsocketprotocol/ http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-hybi-thewebsocketprotocol-10.txt Individual WG members are encouraged to provide individual feedback directly to the

Seeking view-mode Media Feature implementation data

2011-07-19 Thread Arthur Barstow
[ Bcc www-style ] Marcos is gathering and organizing implementation data for the view-mode Media Feature Candidate Recommendation [VMMF-CR] with a goal of moving this spec to Proposed Recommendation: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-vmmf/imp-report/ If you have any implementation data

CORS/UMP to become joint WebApps and WebAppSec joint deliverable

2011-07-15 Thread Arthur Barstow
As indicated a year ago [1] and again at the end of last month [2], the proposal to create a new Web Application Security WG has moved forward with a formal AC review now underway and ending August 19. The proposed charter includes making CORS and UMP a joint deliverable between the WebApps

RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL; deadline August 23

2011-07-12 Thread Arthur Barstow
On July 12 a Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-WebIDL-20110712/ The deadline for comments is August 23 and all comments should be sent to: public-script-co...@w3.org Cameron, Philippe - if you think it is necessary, please fwd this e-mail to

[widgets] Re: Call for Prior Art Related to US Patent 7,743,336 and US Patent Application 20070101146

2011-07-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
FYI, this announcement was forwarded to public-widgets-pag and there is at least one response to that CfPA: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-widgets-pag/ http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-widgets-pag/2011JulSep/0001.html On 7/8/11 4:22 PM, ext Philippe Le Hegaret

Re: [websockets] IETF HyBi current status and next steps

2011-07-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
Is there a deadline for protocol comments? Based on the e-mail below, it appears the deadline is July 25. Please clarify. Also, for those of us not familiar with IETF process, what is the relationship between the IETF's LC review and v10's Expires: January 12, 2012? -Thanks, Art Barstow

Re: CfC: publish Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL; deadline July 7

2011-07-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
Although there are ongoing discussions regarding exceptions, there were no objections to this CfC. As such, I will request publication of a LC specification to encourage broader review and comments. -AB On 6/30/11 6:46 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: As Cameron indicated in [1], all non

Re: [websockets] Getting WebSockets API to Last Call

2011-07-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 7/7/11 6:00 PM, ext Adrian Bateman wrote: We're keen to resolve the remaining issues with the WebSockets API and have a timetable to get to Candidate Recommendation. From informal conversations we've had, we believe other browser vendors share this goal. I think the current WebSocket API is

Re: [eventsource] Is Server-Sent Events ready for LC? ; deadline July 1

2011-07-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 7/6/11 5:49 PM, ext Ian Hickson wrote: On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: Do you oppose others submitting fixes to your spec bugs? If someone is interested in submitting fixes, they are welcome to contact me, so that I can work with them to work out how we can get something set up

Re: [eventsource] Is Server-Sent Events ready for LC? ; deadline July 1

2011-07-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
Thanks Anne and Dan. I added your comments to bug 13071. All - in addition to 13071, on July 6, Anne submitted 13155 and 13156 against this spec. Unless I hear otherwise, I assume the group wants to block LC until all of these bugs are addressed. As always, patches/fixes for open bugs are

Re: Publishing From-Origin Proposal as FPWD

2011-07-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
Thanks Björn and Brad for your comments. I agree early comments from a broad set of stakeholders is important and I encourage everyone to please send all technical feedback on this spec to: public-webapps@w3.org -Art Barstow On 7/5/11 11:14 PM, ext Hill, Brad wrote: To the procedural

Re: [webstorage] Plan to move the spec to Last Call Working Draft

2011-07-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
LC-webstorage-2011July.html. -Thanks, ArtB [ED] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/html5/webstorage/ [PUB] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/html5/webstorage/publish/ [1211-fix] http://www.w3.org/2011/06/Web%20Storage.html On 6/30/11 3:20 PM, ext Scott Wilson wrote: On 30 Jun 2011, at 14:55, Arthur Barstow wrote

Re: [eventsource] Is Server-Sent Events ready for LC? ; deadline July 1

2011-07-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 7/6/11 1:55 PM, ext Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: Any comments re the priority of this bug, in particular if it must be addressed before publishing a new LCWD? Can we please stop letting the LCWD/CR/PR process nonsense drive the prioritisation of the bug

Where to discuss TR process issues? [Was: Re: [eventsource] Is Server-Sent Events ready for LC? ; deadline July 1

2011-07-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Hixie, On 7/6/11 1:55 PM, ext Ian Hickson wrote: On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: Any comments re the priority of this bug, in particular if it must be addressed before publishing a new LCWD? Can we please stop letting the LCWD/CR/PR process nonsense drive the prioritisation

Re: [eventsource] Is Server-Sent Events ready for LC? ; deadline July 1

2011-07-05 Thread Arthur Barstow
a rough estimate re when you can address this bug? All - if anyone is willing to submit a fix for this bug, please send the fix to the list or add the fix to the bug. -AB On 6/24/11 7:33 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: Hixie, All, Ian responded [1] to the last set of Server-Sent Events comments

Re: Publishing From-Origin Proposal as FPWD

2011-07-05 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Brad, Anne, As I mentioned in [1], I think there is sufficient support for WebApps to publish this spec as a FPWD and I will start a Call for Consensus to more formally determine WebApps' level of support. A WG may publish a FPWD without consensus on the _contents_ of the spec. The

CfC: publish FPWD of Cross-Origin Resource Embedding Exclusion; deadline July 12

2011-07-05 Thread Arthur Barstow
As discussed in [1], Anne would like to publish a First Public Working Draft (FPWD) of Cross-Origin Resource Embedding Exclusion (From-Origin) and this a Call for Consensus (CfC) to do so: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/from-origin/raw-file/tip/Overview.html This CfC satisfies the group's

TPAC2011 Meeting Registration Open; 31Oct - 4 Nov @ Santa Clara, CA

2011-07-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
Below is some information about the W3C's 2011 Technical Plenary and all Working Group meeting week which is October 31 - November 4 in Santa Clara California: http://www.w3.org/2011/11/TPAC/#Finalized The current plan is for WebApps to only meet on Monday October 31. I created an agenda

Re: Publishing From-Origin Proposal as FPWD

2011-07-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
On 6/30/11 10:31 PM, ext Daniel Veditz wrote: On 6/30/11 9:31 AM, Maciej Stachowiak wrote: On Jun 30, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: (Added public-web-security because of the potential for doing this in CSP instead. Though that would require a slight change of scope for CSP, which

CfC: publish Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL; deadline July 7

2011-06-30 Thread Arthur Barstow
As Cameron indicated in [1], all non-enhancements bugs for Web IDL are now resolved and as such, this is a Call for Consensus to publish a Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/WebIDL/ This CfC satisfies the group's requirement to record the group's decision to

[webstorage] Plan to move the spec to Last Call Working Draft

2011-06-30 Thread Arthur Barstow
Given the lack of support for stopping work on Web Storage [1], I'd let to get consensus on the plan to move it to Last Call Working Draft. Currently there are two open bugs: 1. Bug 12111: spec for Storage object getItem(key) method does not match implementation behavior. PLH created a

CfC: publish Proposed Recommendation for Widget Packaging and XML Configuration; deadline July 7

2011-06-30 Thread Arthur Barstow
The comment period for the 7-June-2011 LCWD of the Widget Packaging and XML Configuration spec ended with no comments and as documented in the spec's Implementation Report [ImplRept], there are 4 implementations that pass 100% of the test suite. As such, this is Call for Consensus to publish a

CfC: publish Proposed Recommendation for Widget Digital Signature; deadline July 7

2011-06-30 Thread Arthur Barstow
The comment period for the 7-June-2011 LCWD of the Widget Digital Signature spec ended with no comments and as documented in the spec's Implementation Report [ImplRept], there are 2 implementations that pass 100% of the test suite's Mandatory feature tests. As such, this is Call for Consensus

W3C Community Groups and Business Groups [Was: Re: Proposal: Navigation of JSON documents with html-renderer-script link relation]

2011-06-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
Kris, Sean - in case you were including the W3C re appropriate next step to advance this proposal, please note the W3C's new Community Groups and Business Groups proposal has now advanced to the Beta stage: W3C Community Groups and Business Groups http://www.w3.org/2010/12/community/ Beta

Re: [widgets] Plan to publish Proposed Recommendations for PC, Interface and DigSig specs

2011-06-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
for a CfC to publish a PR. Comments on this document are welcome. -AB On 5/26/11 11:58 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: Over the last few days, CfCs were started to publish Last Call Working Drafts of three of the widget specs: Packaging and Configuration, Interface and Digital Signature

[widgets] Plan to get Widget Updates LC ready?

2011-06-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
Richard, Marcos - what is the plan to get Widget Updates spec LC ready (see [1] for LC requirements)? http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-updates/ All - if you have any implementation data for this spec, please let us know. -Thanks, AB [1]

[widgets] What is the status and plan for Widget URI spec?

2011-06-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
Robin - what is the status and plan for the Widget URI spec? http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-uri/ All - if you have any implementation data for this spec, please let us know. -Thanks, AB

Re: [widget] technology/specification name

2011-06-24 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Jun/24/2011 4:50 AM, ext Marcin Hanclik wrote: Changing it now could confuse the industry even more and will not help, I think. Agreed, and in the abscence of any new and overwhelmingly compelling new information, I will object to any name change. -AB

[eventsource] Is Server-Sent Events ready for LC? ; deadline July 1

2011-06-24 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hixie, All, Ian responded [1] to the last set of Server-Sent Events comments I had noted, and Bugzilla now reports Zarro Boogs [2] for this spec (11835/Fixed, 11836/WontFix, 12411/Fixed, 12883/WontFix). As such, this raises the question if the spec is ready for Last Call Working Draft

Re: Testing Progress Events and CR

2011-06-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Jun/23/2011 6:45 AM, ext Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:36:07 +0200, Anne van Kesteren ann...@opera.com wrote: I just checked in the proposal https://bitbucket.org/ms2ger/dom-core/changeset/b9bb17789db9 into DOM Core but I suspect it needs some refining and reviewing. I

Canceled! CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Progress Events; deadline June 24

2011-06-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
Because of the changes Anne applied to this spec, a new Last Call Working Draft will be needed so this CfC is _Canceled_: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011AprJun/1247.html On Jun/17/2011 9:57 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: As noted earlier this month [1], the Progress

Seeking pre-LC comments for Progress Events spec; deadline June 30

2011-06-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
Anne's recent changes to the Progress Events spec means a new Last Call Working Draft must be published and he is not planning any additional changes. Please review the latest ED and send all comments to the list by June 30: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/progress/ Note the recent changes

Re: Testing Progress Events and CR

2011-06-22 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Jun/22/2011 6:28 AM, ext Anne van Kesteren wrote: Since this relates to the CR of Progress Events I thought I would bring it up on this list instead of one of the testing mailing lists. Progress Events depends a lot on other specifications. Basically the only thing that can be tested is

Re: RfC: moving Web Storage to WG Note; deadline June 29

2011-06-22 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Jun/20/2011 6:37 PM, ext Ian Hickson wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2011-06-20 13:58, Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:54:12 +0200, Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de wrote: As recently discussed in the HTMLWG -- you can have Note that is normative;

Re: Publishing a Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL on June 30

2011-06-21 Thread Arthur Barstow
and the time the LC is published, unless a bug is a showstopper for LC, let's plan to address those new bugs during the LC comment period. -Art Barstow On Jun/21/2011 12:11 AM, ext Cameron McCormack wrote: Arthur Barstow: * June 20 - start a 1-week Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish a LCWD

Re: Publishing an update of File API spec

2011-06-21 Thread Arthur Barstow
[ + PLH ] Thanks for the update Arun. I just chatted with PLH in #webapps [1] and he will followup on the URI list about the registration process question you asked below. He and I agree with you that the completion of the scheme registration does not need to block LC. All open bugs should

RfC: moving Web Storage to WG Note; deadline June 29

2011-06-20 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All, Despite Web Storage bug 12111 now having a fix [1], the elephant in the room [2] for this spec is still the mutex issue encapsulated in the spec: [[ http://www.w3.org/2011/06/Web%20Storage.html#issues The use of the storage mutex to avoid race conditions is currently considered by

[widgets] Reminder! RfC: LCWDs of Widget {Packaging, Interface, Digital Signature}; deadline June 28

2011-06-20 Thread Arthur Barstow
:public-webapps@w3.org Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 13:39:20 -0400 From: ext Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com To: public-webapps public-webapps@w3.org On June 7 WebApps published LCWDs of 3 widget specs: 1. Widget Packaging XML Configuration http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-widgets-20110607/ 2

Reminder: RfC: DOM 3 Events Last Call Working Draft; deadline June 28

2011-06-20 Thread Arthur Barstow
: Tue, 31 May 2011 11:51:59 -0400 From: ext Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com To: public-webapps public-webapps@w3.org, www-dom www-...@w3.org Followup-To:www-...@w3.org On May 31, Last Call Working Draft #2 of the DOM 3 Events spec was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-DOM

CfC: publish Candidate Recommendation of Progress Events; deadline June 24

2011-06-17 Thread Arthur Barstow
As noted earlier this month [1], the Progress Events spec's Last Call comment period ended with no comments. As such, Anne proposes the spec be published as a Candidate Recommendation and this is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to do so: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/progress/ This CfC satisfies:

Re: RfC: DAP's Contacts API Last Call Working Draft; deadline July 14

2011-06-16 Thread Arthur Barstow
The correct URL is: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-contacts-api-20110616/ On Jun/15/2011 1:47 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote: On June 16, the Device API group will publish a Last Call Working Draft of its Calendar API spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-contacts-api-20110616/ Individuals

RfC: DAP's Contacts API Last Call Working Draft; deadline July 14

2011-06-15 Thread Arthur Barstow
On June 16, the Device API group will publish a Last Call Working Draft of its Calendar API spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-contacts-api-20110616/ Individuals are encouraged to provide individual feedback directly to DAP via their public list: public-device-a...@w3.org If

Re: [Bug 12111] New: spec for Storage object getItem(key) method does not match implementation behavior

2011-06-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
All - given that addressing 12111 is a low priority for Ian, one way forward is for someone else to create a concrete proposal. BTW, I don't think anyone from Opera or Safari has commented on bug 12111 and if that is the case, it would be good to get their comments. -AB On Jun/14/2011

Re: [Bug 12111] New: spec for Storage object getItem(key) method does not match implementation behavior

2011-06-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Jun/11/2011 3:57 PM, ext James Robinson wrote: In my opinion, the only thing left to be done with localStorage is to write it off as an unfortunate failure, learn our lesson, and move on. This may not be relevant to the processes you are trying to follow. Stopping work on Web Storage is

Re: CfC: publish a Candidate Recommendation of HTML5 Web Messaging; deadline June 9

2011-06-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011AprJun/0947.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011AprJun/1004.html Until this is clearer, I will not submit a request to publish this CR. -AB On Jun/2/2011 7:27 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: The Last Call comment period for the HTML5 Web

Re: What changes to Web Messaging spec are proposed? [Was: Re: Using ArrayBuffer as payload for binary data to/from Web Workers]

2011-06-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Jun/8/2011 5:24 PM, ext Kenneth Russell wrote: My understanding is that we have reached a proposal which respecifies the ports argument to postMessage as an array of objects to transfer, in such a way that we: - Maintain 100% backward compatibility - Enhance the ability to pass

Re: [Bug 12111] New: spec for Storage object getItem(key) method does not match implementation behavior

2011-06-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Jun/10/2011 3:05 PM, ext Ian Hickson wrote: On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: My take on the comments is that most commentors prefer the spec to be changed as PLH suggested in comment #5: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12111#c5 Hixie - are you willing

Re: [Widgets] URI spec needs HTTP responses and dereferencing model

2011-06-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Jun/10/2011 6:14 AM, ext Karl Dubost wrote: Le 10 juin 2011 à 06:10, Marcos Caceres a écrit : What are the benefits of having a different scheme? I'm confused... different to what? :) http FYI, some of that info was consolidated in: http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/WidgetURIScheme

Re: [Bug 12913] New: Close() should throw the same exception as send() for unpaired surrogates

2011-06-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
Adrian - this bug is for the Web Sockets API spec (and not Web Storage), correct? On Jun/8/2011 1:21 PM, ext bugzi...@jessica.w3.org wrote: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12913 Summary: Close() should throw the same exception as send() for

Re: [Bug 12111] New: spec for Storage object getItem(key) method does not match implementation behavior

2011-06-10 Thread Arthur Barstow
My take on the comments is that most commentors prefer the spec to be changed as PLH suggested in comment #5: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12111#c5 Hixie - are you willing to change the spec accordingly? -AB On Jun/8/2011 7:57 AM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: There are now 11

Re: [Widgets] URI spec needs HTTP responses and dereferencing model

2011-06-09 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Jun/9/2011 7:09 PM, ext Rich Tibbett wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Marcos Caceresmarcosscace...@gmail.com wrote: To fix it, the widget URI spec needs to respond with HTTP responses when a URI is dereferenced... similar to what blob:// does:

Re: What changes to Web Messaging spec are proposed? [Was: Re: Using ArrayBuffer as payload for binary data to/from Web Workers]

2011-06-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
Now that the responses on this thread have slowed, I would appreciate if the participants would please summarize where they think we are on this issue, e.g. the points of agreement and disagreement, how to move forward, etc. Also, coming back to the question in the subject (and I apologize if

Re: [Bug 12111] New: spec for Storage object getItem(key) method does not match implementation behavior

2011-06-08 Thread Arthur Barstow
There are now 11 comments on Web Storage Bug 12111, the last remaining bug before moving this spec back to Last Call: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12111 If anyone has additional comments, please add them to the bug before the end of this week. I would like to get

[widgets] RfC: LCWDs of Widget {Packaging, Interface, Digital Signature}; deadline June 28

2011-06-07 Thread Arthur Barstow
On June 7 WebApps published LCWDs of 3 widget specs: 1. Widget Packaging XML Configuration http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-widgets-20110607/ 2. Widget Interface http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-widgets-apis-20110607/ 3. Widget Digital Signature

Re: Battery Status API vs. Geolocation API

2011-06-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
[ Bcc public-webapps; please reply to public-device-a...@w3.org ] As noted in the Battery Status Event spec, comments for the spec should be sent to the DAP WG's mail list: public-device-a...@w3.org mailto:public-device-a...@w3.org On Jun/6/2011 1:44 AM, ext Andres Riofrio wrote: Hello, I

Re: Status of URL Interface?

2011-06-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
Given the positive support indicated, one way forward with respect to WebApps is for Adam to put his spec into WebApps' Mercurial repo and to continue related discussions on public-webapps. Note, WebApps cannot publish this spec (in w3.org/TR/) until the spec is included in the WG's charter.

Publishing an update of File API spec

2011-06-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Arun, Jonas, All, The last publication of the File API spec [ED] was last October so it would be good to publish a new Working Draft in w3.org/TR/. Since Tracker shows 0 bugs for the spec [Tracker] and the ED does not appear to identify any open issues, does the spec meet the Last Call

Re: [WARP] error in spec

2011-06-03 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Marcos - given this spec is in the Candidate Recommendation state, before a CfC to publish a new LCWD is started, I think it would be helpful if you provided a list of the changes you propose and a short summary for each change. WDYT? I don't have a strong opinion on where the list of

Re: Status of URL Interface?

2011-06-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
I support WebApps starting some new work, provided there is broad support for it and it doesn't block or slow work we already started. All, especially implementors - what is your level of interest in Adam's URL API? Dom - what's your interest here? F.ex., is this API something DAP or some

Re: [Bug 12111] spec for Storage object getItem(key) method does not match implementation behavior

2011-06-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hixie, All - PLH proposed a fix for this bug in comment #5 (use DOMString instead of any in {get,set}Item). AFAIU, PLH's proposal matches what has been widely implemented. As such, it seems like the spec should be updated accordingly. -AB On Jun/2/2011 8:31 AM, ext bugzi...@jessica.w3.org

What changes to Web Messaging spec are proposed? [Was: Re: Using ArrayBuffer as payload for binary data to/from Web Workers]

2011-06-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
What are the specific change(s) to the Web Messaging spec being proposed: http://dev.w3.org/html5/postmsg/ -AB On Jun/2/2011 11:25 AM, ext Jonas Sicking wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Kenneth Russellk...@google.com wrote: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Ian Hicksoni...@hixie.ch

Is Progress Events spec ready for Candidate Rec? [Was: Re: RfC: Last Call Working Draft of Progress Events; deadline June 1]

2011-06-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
, please speak up. -AB [ED] http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/progress/ On Mar/10/2011 7:33 PM, ext Arthur Barstow wrote: This is a Request for Comments for the March 10 Last Call Working Draft of Progress Events: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-progress-events-20110310/ If you have any comments, please

Re: [Bug 12111] spec for Storage object getItem(key) method does not match implementation behavior

2011-06-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
On Jun/2/2011 2:51 PM, ext Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2011, Philippe Le Hegaret wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 18:38 +, Ian Hickson wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2011, Arthur Barstow wrote: Hixie, All - PLH proposed a fix for this bug in comment #5 (use DOMString instead of any in {get,set

Re: Status of URL Interface?

2011-06-01 Thread Arthur Barstow
Dom - WebApps' current charter does not directly include this API and I don't think the charter includes any deliverables that could directly rationalize Adam's spec. However, if someone interprets the charter differently, then please speak up. Adam - what is the status and plan for the URL

RfC: DOM 3 Events Last Call Working Draft; deadline June 28

2011-05-31 Thread Arthur Barstow
On May 31, Last Call Working Draft #2 of the DOM 3 Events spec was published: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-DOM-Level-3-Events-20110531/ If you have any comments on this spec, please send them to the following mail list by June 28 at the latest: www-...@w3.org -Art Barstow

CfC: publish a Last Call Working Draft of The Widget Interface; deadline June 2

2011-05-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
Marcos has updated the Widget Interface spec and he proposes a new Last Call Working Draft be published. This is Call for Consensus (CfC) to do so: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-api/ This CfC satisfies the group's requirement to record the group's decision to request advancement for

CfC: publish a Last Call Working Draft of Widget Packaging and Configuration; deadline June 2

2011-05-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
Marcos has updated the Widget Packaging and Configuration spec and he proposes a new Last Call Working Draft be published. This is Call for Consensus (CfC) to do so: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/pub/ This CfC satisfies the group's requirement to record the group's decision to request

[widgets] Plan to publish Proposed Recommendations for PC, Interface and DigSig specs

2011-05-26 Thread Arthur Barstow
Over the last few days, CfCs were started to publish Last Call Working Drafts of three of the widget specs: Packaging and Configuration, Interface and Digital Signature. By the time the LC comment period ends (June 28), Marcos expects to have data that at least two independent implementations

Publishing a Last Call Working Draft of Web IDL on June 30

2011-05-24 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All, The Web IDL spec is a normative dependency for many specs from several Working Groups. As such, its progression along the Recommendation track is very important and Cameron has agreed to the following schedule to publish a Last Call Working Draft by June 30: * June 20 - start a

CfC: publish a Last Call Working Draft of Widget Digital Signature; deadline May 30

2011-05-23 Thread Arthur Barstow
Marcos completed the changes he proposed [1] to the Widget Digital Signature spec. He now proposes a new Last Call Working Draft be published and this is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to do so: http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-digsig/ This CfC satisfies the group's requirement to record the

Fwd: Heads up: Upcoming Last Call for Contacts API

2011-05-19 Thread Arthur Barstow
The DAP WG is planning to publish a Last Call WD of their Contacts API on June 8, with a proposed comment deadline of July 6 or 13 (4 or 5 weeks): http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/contacts/ Since they intend to ask WebApps to review the LC, please speak up ASAP (before May 26) if the July 6

CfC: publish new Working Draft of DOM Core; deadline May 21

2011-05-14 Thread Arthur Barstow
Doug's objection [1] to the Feb 24 CfC to publish a new WD of DOM Core [2] has been removed (see [3] Member-only list). As such, Ms2ger would like to publish a new WD of this spec and this is a Call for Consensus to do so: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/domcore/raw-file/tip/Overview.html Agreeing

Re: Overview of W3C technologies for mobile Web applications

2011-05-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Dom, On May/12/2011 4:41 AM, ext Dominique Hazael-Massieux wrote: Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 16:03 +0100, Dominique Hazael-Massieux a écrit : As part of a European research project I'm involved in [1], I've compiled a report on the existing technologies in development (or in discussion) at

Reminder: RfC: LCWD of HTML5 Web Messaging; deadline June 1

2011-05-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
HTML5 Web Messaging: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-webmessaging-20110317/ Original Message Subject: RfC: LCWDs of Web Workers, Server-sent Events, Progress Events and HTML5 Web Messaging Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 07:53:19 -0400 From: Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com

CfC: publish a new LCWD of DOM 3 Events; deadline May 18

2011-05-11 Thread Arthur Barstow
The people working on the DOM 3 Events spec have resolved all the issues we believe are critical for DOM3 Events vis-à-vis the September 2010 LCWD [LC-2010], and have addressed the issues regarding discrepancies between D3E and DOM Core [Mins]. As such, they now propose the WG publish a new

Re: [widgets] localizing author

2011-05-04 Thread Arthur Barstow
On May/4/2011 12:29 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: Hi, I just realised that I actually localise my own name in certain languages (most particularly to ensure that I get my preferred transliterations when I am publishing). But I cannot do that in config.xml. Likewise, I would like to localise

Does WebApps want to do work in Model-driven Views area?

2011-05-03 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All, Pardon the interruption here to digress a bit to look at Rafael's proposal from the process perspective ... [Charter] defines WebApps' scope and explicit deliverables. Depending on how the proposal is viewed, (perhaps) at least part of it could be rationalized by being related to

[widgets] Processing comments from 22-Mar-2011 LCWD of Widgets PC

2011-05-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
; deadline May 1 Resent-Date:Fri, 22 Apr 2011 10:51:20 + Resent-From:public-webapps@w3.org Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 06:49:32 -0400 From: ext Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com To: public-webapps public-webapps@w3.org, Marcos Caceres marcoscace...@gmail.com Reminder: May 1

Re: [workers] Processing comments from 10-Mar-2011 LCWD

2011-05-02 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi Tab, All - can you Tab, or someone else, commit to processing the comments and bugs for the Workers LCWD? Given Hixie's bug list [1], perhaps we shouldn't wait for him. -Art [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011AprJun/0385.html On Apr/28/2011 1:35 PM, ext Arthur

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