Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r86170 - in python/branches/py3k: Doc/library/stdtypes.rst Lib/test/test_unicode.py Misc/NEWS Objects/stringlib/string_format.h Objects/unicodeobject.c

2010-11-06 Thread Eric Smith
On 11/6/10 1:16 AM, Ezio Melotti wrote: +.. method:: str.format_map(mapping) + + Similar to ``str.forrmat(**mapping)``, except that ``mapping`` is + used directly and not copied to a :class:`dict` . This is useful + if for example ``mapping`` is a dict subclass. Including the "__missing__" exa

[Python-Dev] "Too many open files" errors on "x86 FreeBSD 7.2 3.x" buildbot

2010-11-06 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi, I noticed "OSError: [Errno 23] Too many open files in system" errors on your FreeBSD buildbot. I would like to know if you configured a limit on the open files or maybe of child processes on this buildbot or not, or if it is a failure in Python? The first error always occurs in the first t

Re: [Python-Dev] "Too many open files" errors on "x86 FreeBSD 7.2 3.x" buildbot

2010-11-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 06.11.2010 12:19, schrieb Victor Stinner: > Hi, > > I noticed "OSError: [Errno 23] Too many open files in system" errors on your > FreeBSD buildbot. I would like to know if you configured a limit on the open > files or maybe of child processes on this buildbot or not, or if it is a > failure

Re: [Python-Dev] Python-3 transition in Arch Linux

2010-11-06 Thread Laurens Van Houtven
I'm sorry you feel that way. Experience teaches us that people do speak up more than they tend to keep schtum. We do get feedback on most things, including the "NO ARCH" rule. At least so far, responses have not been anywhere near what you'd expect if you'd tell people to "RTFM n00b" (in terms of

Re: [Python-Dev] Python-3 transition in Arch Linux

2010-11-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> But the previous consensus (at least, as I, and presumably many other > people understood it) was that python2 would remain the owner of the > name "/usr/bin/python" for the indefinite future, and python3 would > be invoked with /usr/bin/python3. Can you cite references for that (not that other

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2010-11-06 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 06.11.2010 05:44, schrieb Ezio Melotti: > Hi, > > On 05/11/2010 19.08, Python tracker wrote: >> ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2010-10-29 - 2010-11-05) >> Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ >> >> To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue. >> Do NOT respond to this messa

Re: [Python-Dev] "Too many open files" errors on "x86 FreeBSD 7.2 3.x" buildbot

2010-11-06 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:31:39 +0100, Martin wrote: > Am 06.11.2010 12:19, schrieb Victor Stinner: > > Hi, > > > > I noticed "OSError: [Errno 23] Too many open files in system" errors on > > your > > FreeBSD buildbot. I would like to know if you configured a limit on the > > open > > files or ma

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2010-11-06 Thread R. David Murray
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 15:38:22 +0100, Georg Brandl wrote: > Am 06.11.2010 05:44, schrieb Ezio Melotti: > > Hi, > > > > On 05/11/2010 19.08, Python tracker wrote: > >> ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2010-10-29 - 2010-11-05) > >> Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ > >> > >> To view or respond to any of the

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r86264 - python/branches/release27-maint/Lib/distutils/sysconfig.py

2010-11-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Remove one trace of Mac OS 9 support (#7908 follow-up) > > This was overlooked in r80804. This change is not really a bug fix, I'm skeptical that this change should be carried out, then. It's easy to argue that this can't possibly hurt (but I can certainly come up with code that will break

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r86264 - python/branches/release27-maint/Lib/distutils/sysconfig.py

2010-11-06 Thread Éric Araujo
> I'm skeptical that this change should be carried out, then. Yes, I asked myself the same question. I had done the svnmerge from py3k, and when I saw that only one change was left, I wondered whether I should commit or revert. > It's easy to argue that this can't possibly hurt (but I can certain

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r86264 - python/branches/release27-maint/Lib/distutils/sysconfig.py

2010-11-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> This was a private function used on an unsupported platform, this should > do no harm. We’ve been bitten by “should do no harm” before though, so > I am ready to revert this change (and learn from this :) Do as you like. I won't insist on it being reverted. It's rather a matter of agreeing whe

Re: [Python-Dev] Python-3 transition in Arch Linux

2010-11-06 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/6/2010 8:53 AM, Laurens Van Houtven wrote: Experience teaches us that people do speak up more than they tend to keep schtum. We do get feedback on most things, including the "NO ARCH" rule. It strikes me as reasonable to warn people that they would be wasting their time typing out a mul

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2010-11-06 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/6/2010 11:42 AM, R. David Murray wrote: On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 15:38:22 +0100, Georg Brandl wrote: Am 06.11.2010 05:44, schrieb Ezio Melotti: Hi, On 05/11/2010 19.08, Python tracker wrote: ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2010-10-29 - 2010-11-05) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or res

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r86264 - python/branches/release27-maint/Lib/distutils/sysconfig.py

2010-11-06 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/6/2010 12:33 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: This was a private function used on an unsupported platform, this should do no harm. We’ve been bitten by “should do no harm” before though, so I am ready to revert this change (and learn from this :) Do as you like. I won't insist on it being re

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2010-11-06 Thread Ezio Melotti
On 06/11/2010 19.01, Terry Reedy wrote: On 11/6/2010 11:42 AM, R. David Murray wrote: On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 15:38:22 +0100, Georg Brandl wrote: Am 06.11.2010 05:44, schrieb Ezio Melotti: Hi, On 05/11/2010 19.08, Python tracker wrote: ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2010-10-29 - 2010-11-05) Python tracker a

[Python-Dev] SSH access against buildbot boxes

2010-11-06 Thread Giampaolo Rodolà
Hi, sorry in advance if this sounds a little indiscreet, but I think it would be great if we'd have SSH access against some of the computers used to host buildbots. Personally, I would find this particularly useful for OSX since it's one of the few OSes I can't manage to virtualize and which often

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2010-11-06 Thread Ron Adam
On 11/06/2010 12:01 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 11/6/2010 11:42 AM, R. David Murray wrote: On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 15:38:22 +0100, Georg Brandl wrote: Am 06.11.2010 05:44, schrieb Ezio Melotti: Hi, On 05/11/2010 19.08, Python tracker wrote: ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2010-10-29 - 2010-11-05) Python track

Re: [Python-Dev] SSH access against buildbot boxes

2010-11-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> sorry in advance if this sounds a little indiscreet, but I think it > would be great if we'd have SSH access against some of the computers > used to host buildbots. The only way this can work is on a bilateral basis. If you need shell access to one of the build slaves, contact the slave operator

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2010-11-06 Thread Ron Adam
Current status from the tracker... don't care: 22134 not closed: 2491 not selected: 1 open: 2451 languishing: 25 pending: 39 closed: 19604 That gives us... 2451 open 1 not selected 39 pending 25 languishing 2516 Total open 2451 open 39 languishing Should be 39 pending here, not la

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r86170 - in python/branches/py3k: Doc/library/stdtypes.rst Lib/test/test_unicode.py Misc/NEWS Objects/stringlib/string_format.h Objects/unicodeobject.c

2010-11-06 Thread Eric Smith
On 11/6/10 6:43 AM, Eric Smith wrote: On 11/6/10 1:16 AM, Ezio Melotti wrote: str.format_map> I've addressed all of these issues, although if anyone has suggestions for the docstrings or documentation they'd be appreciated. Thanks again. -- Eric. __

Re: [Python-Dev] SSH access against buildbot boxes

2010-11-06 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 11/6/10 10:53 AM, Giampaolo Rodolà wrote: > Personally, I would find this particularly useful for OSX since it's > one of the few OSes I can't manage to virtualize and which often > causes me problems. Although I said this on IRC, I'll repeat the offer to the list for those not present -- I'm o

Re: [Python-Dev] "Too many open files" errors on "x86 FreeBSD 7.2 3.x" buildbot

2010-11-06 Thread David Bolen
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Victor Stinner > > I noticed "OSError: [Errno 23] Too many open files in system" errors on your > FreeBSD buildbot. I would like to know if you configured a limit on the open > files or maybe of child processes on this buildbot or not, or if it is a > failure in Pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] SSH access against buildbot boxes

2010-11-06 Thread David Bolen
Giampaolo Rodolà writes: > In such cases I would find more easy to be able to connect to the > machine and test myself rather than create a separate branch, commit, > schedule a buildbot run, wait for it to complete and see whether > everything is "green". I agree with both Stephen and Martin's

Re: [Python-Dev] "Too many open files" errors on "x86 FreeBSD 7.2 3.x" buildbot

2010-11-06 Thread Victor Stinner
On Saturday 06 November 2010 22:36:44 you wrote: > I couldn't find the matching failures that you're talking about, but > then I figured out you mean the FreeBSD7 (7.2) buildbot, not the > FreeBSD (6.4) buildbot Search "test_concurrent_futures" in: http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/builders/

Re: [Python-Dev] Python-3 transition in Arch Linux

2010-11-06 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:41 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > Instead, I recall that a decision was made (and I'm not sure whether > with consensus or not) that "make install" would install > /usr/bin/python3, for the time being. Period. Indeed, that's my recollection as well. Whether python3 ever

Re: [Python-Dev] SSH access against buildbot boxes

2010-11-06 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Giampaolo Rodolà wrote: > In such cases I would find more easy to be able to connect to the > machine and test myself rather than create a separate branch, commit, > schedule a buildbot run, wait for it to complete and see whether > everything is "green". > > On the