[Python-Dev] Request for commit access

patches when they don't have direct access to Windows. Brian Curtin p.s. My contributor form in on file as of 2010-01-31. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of 2.7b1?

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 10:51, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: The trunk's been frozen for a few days now, which is starting to cut into the window for new fixes between b1 and b2 (down to just under 3 weeks, and that's only if b1 was ready for release today). Is work in train to

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of 2.7b1?

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 13:37, Tim Golden tjgol...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/04/2010 17:02, Brian Curtin wrote: I contacted David Bolen for some details about the his buildbot because I can't reproduce the failure on any Windows XP, Server 2003, or 7 box that I have, and it's also

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 14:03, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: Paul Rudin wrote: Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de writes: The major difference in the do it yourself attitude is that Mac user get a compiler for free, as part of the operating system release, whereas for

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of 2.7b1?

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 14:43, David Bolen db3l@gmail.com wrote: Brian Curtin brian.cur...@gmail.com writes: The tests are run on a native Win32 build as compiled by VS2008. The functionality is Win32 specific and wouldn't work on Cygwin, so the tests are skipped there. I believe

Re: [Python-Dev] OS information, tags

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 03:20, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: I am surprised to see that the bug-tracker doesn't have an OS classifier or ability to add tags ? Since a number of issues

[Python-Dev] MSDN licenses available for python-dev

contributors and not just minor/occasional participants. If this applies to you and you are interested, let me know. Brian Curtin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http

Re: [Python-Dev] MSDN licenses available for python-dev

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:16, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: On 02:56 pm, techto...@gmail.com wrote: Twisted folks will surely appreciate any help and may be able to contribute back. http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/Windows Extra Windows and VS licenses would certainly be helpful for

Re: [Python-Dev] MSDN licenses available for python-dev

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 06:48, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: Antoine Pitrou wrote: Le Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:01:54 -0500, Brian Curtin a écrit : The recent threads on builds/installers for Mac and Windows reminded me of Steve Holden's push to get the python-dev team equipped via

Re: [Python-Dev] Email addresses for new committers for python-committers

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 14:42, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote: If you are a committer and are NOT subscribed to the python-committers mailing list (I believe this at least includes Giampaolo, JP, and Brian), then please either reply to this email with your preferred email address or let

Re: [Python-Dev] bug tracker permissions request

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 09:22, Daniel Stutzbach dan...@stutzbachenterprises.com wrote: May I have enhanced permissions on the bug tracker, so that I can perform the following tasks? - Assign issues to myself that I plan to write a patch for - Update the Stage to patch review after writing a

Re: [Python-Dev] Python Library Support in 3.x (Was: email package status in 3.X)

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 07:44, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Stephen Thorne step...@thorne.id.au wrote: We are also attempting to enable tax-deductible fund raising to increase the likelihood of David's finding support. Perhaps we need to think

Re: [Python-Dev] Whats New in 3.4 is pretty much done...

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: On 3/13/2014 7:34 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Christian Heimes writes: But I don't want it to sound like an advert... Suggestions? Not to worry. It *can't* be an advert -- it's all true, and there are no irrelevant

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.7.7. on Windows

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Mike Miller python-...@mgmiller.net wrote: On 04/29/2014 05:12 AM, Steve Dower wrote: This would be an incredibly painful change that would surprise and hurt a lot of people. Hi, I think incredibly painful is overstating the case a bit. ;) We're talking

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.7.7. on Windows

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com wrote: Mike Miller wrote: On 04/29/2014 05:12 AM, Steve Dower wrote: This would be an incredibly painful change that would surprise and hurt a lot of people. Hi, I think incredibly painful is overstating the case a bit.

[Python-Dev] Tix version needed to build 2.7 Windows installer?

This is mostly a question for Martin, but perhaps someone else would also know. I'm trying to build the 2.7 installers so I can backport the path option from 3.3, but I can't seem to figure out which version of Tix is necessary to have a complete build. So far any of them on

Re: [Python-Dev] Tix version needed to build 2.7 Windows installer?

On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Zachary Ware zachary.ware+py...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Zachary Ware zachary.ware+py...@gmail.com wrote: I updated the 2.7 buildbot scripts to pull in Tcl/Tk 8.5.15 a couple of weeks ago (see http://bugs.python.org/issue21303), but

Re: [Python-Dev] Questions regarding Windows buildbots

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Claudiu Popa pcmantic...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I'm working on a patch for issue bugs.python.org/issue8579 (Add missing tests for FlushKey, LoadKey, and SaveKey in winreg). This issue requires the SeBackupPrivilege in order to use LoadKey and SaveKey. While

[Python-Dev] Download Counts (was: Language Summit notes)

On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: I don't think we have recent download numbers since the Website overhaul (do we?), but Python 3 isn't an experimental concept language anymore (it hasn't been since 3.3 or 3.2, I'd say). Using the old logs, which are

Re: [Python-Dev] Download Counts (was: Language Summit notes)

On May 28, 2014 12:49 PM, Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: I don't think we have recent download numbers since the Website overhaul (do we?), but Python 3 isn't an experimental concept language anymore

Re: [Python-Dev] Download Counts (was: Language Summit notes)

On May 28, 2014 4:06 PM, Eli Bendersky eli...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote: Is the Windows/Mac ratio still 70/30, with Linux in the single digits? Most Linux installs go through package managers which don't count here, no?

Re: [Python-Dev] Moving Python 3.5 on Windows to a new compiler

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Zachary Ware zachary.ware+py...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com wrote: Thoughts/comments/concerns? My only concern is support for elderly versions of Windows, in particular: XP. I seem to recall the

Re: [Python-Dev] Moving Python 3.5 on Windows to a new compiler

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com wrote: Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com wrote: What this means for Python is that C

Re: [Python-Dev] Moving Python 3.5 on Windows to a new compiler

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:41 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote: On 06.06.2014 20:25, Brian Curtin wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com wrote: Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat

Re: [Python-Dev] Moving Python 3.5 on Windows to a new compiler

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:56 PM, dw+python-...@hmmz.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 10:49:24PM +0400, Brian Curtin wrote: None of the options are particularly good, but yes, I think that's an option we have to consider. We're supporting 2.7.x for 6 more years on a compiler that is already

Re: [Python-Dev] Moving Python 3.5 on Windows to a new compiler

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote: On Jun 6, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:56 PM, dw+python-...@hmmz.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 10:49:24PM +0400, Brian Curtin wrote: None of the options

Re: [Python-Dev] Moving Python 3.5 on Windows to a new compiler

On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:42 PM, dw+python-...@hmmz.org wrote: On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 05:33:45AM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: Is it really any difference in maintenance if you just stop applying updates to 2.7 and switch to 2.8? If 2.8 is really just 2.7 with a new compiler then there

Re: [Python-Dev] Moving Python 3.5 on Windows to a new compiler

On Jun 6, 2014 6:01 PM, Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com wrote: Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote: Adding features into 3.x is already not enough of a carrot on the stick for many users. Intentionally leaving 2.7 on a dead compiler is like beating them with the stick. Those who

Re: [Python-Dev] Moving Python 3.5 on Windows to a new compiler

On Jun 6, 2014 6:33 PM, Sturla Molden sturla.mol...@gmail.com wrote: Brian Curtin br...@python.org wrote: Well we're certainly not going to assume such a thing. I know people do that, but many don't (I never have). If Python 2.7 users are left with a dead compiler on Windows

Re: [Python-Dev] subprocess shell=True on Windows doesn't escape ^ character

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote: On 06/11/2014 07:12 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: ISTM what you want is not shell=True, but a separate function that follows the system policy for

Re: [Python-Dev] Bluetooth 4.0 support in socket module

On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Tim Tisdall tisd...@gmail.com wrote: Is there some online documentation with guidelines on how to contribute? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=contribute+to+python This response is unacceptable.

Re: [Python-Dev] Sad status of Python 3.x buildbots

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 Sep 2014 08:15, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: x86 RHEL 6 3.x: TestReadline.test_init() fails, issue #19884. I don't have to this platform, I don't know how to fix it. Sorry, I haven't been a

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of C compilers for Python on Windows

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Windows is not the primary target of Python developers, probably because most of them work on Linux. Official Python binaries are currently built by Microsoft Visual Studio. Even if Python developers get free

Re: [Python-Dev] Move selected documentation repos to PSF BitBucket account?

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 08:55:50AM -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote: But I strongly believe that if we want to do the right thing for the long term, we should switch to GitHub. Encouraging a software, or social,

Re: [Python-Dev] Python 2.x and 3.x use survey, 2014 edition

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Skip Montanaro skip.montan...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Marko Rauhamaa ma...@pacujo.net wrote: IMO, you should consider forking your library code for Python2 and Python3. I don't get the idea that Brett Cannon agrees with you:

Re: [Python-Dev] development

On Wednesday, January 28, 2015, Alan Armour aarm...@cipmail.org wrote: can you guys develop an audio kit that works around jackd or on windows directx? and tutorials to write synthesizers. and drum machines like a tr-606 with triggers ( I want to trigger a drum synth like the March

Re: [Python-Dev] Why does pip upgrade to a random version?

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Martin Thoma i...@martin-thoma.de wrote: Could somebody please have a look at the following SO question? It seems as if I might have found a bug in pip: http://stackoverflow.com/q/28282671/562769 TL;DR of the SO question: I executed `$ sudo pip install hwrt

Re: [Python-Dev] pep 7

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Neil Girdhar mistersh...@gmail.com wrote: The code reviews I got asked me to revert PEP 7 changes. I can understand that, but then logically someone should go ahead and clean up the code. It's not high risk if you just check for whitespace equivalence of the

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

that Ultimate includes a *lot* of things, not only a C compiler. I found a free Visual Studio which is in fact Visual Studio 2013 Community and I read that it's not free. I sent an email to Brian Curtin to ask to renew my MSDN account. He didn't reply yet. I saw that and will send

Re: [Python-Dev] Compile Python on Windows (OpenSSL)

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, To compile Python on Windows, there are a few information in the Developer Guide: https://docs.python.org/devguide/setup.html#windows-compiling Python 3.5 now requires Visual Studio 2010 *SP1*, or newer

Re: [Python-Dev] version of freshly built 2.7 python

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote: On 04/02, Alexander Walters wrote: On 4/2/2015 21:29, Ethan Furman wrote: I just built the latest version of Python 2.7 on my development machine -- or so I thought. When I invoke it, I get: Python 2.7.6+

Re: [Python-Dev] [python-committers] Do we need to sign Windows files with GnuPG?

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 April 2015 at 10:56, Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org wrote: My Windows development days are firmly behind me. So I don't really have an opinion here. So I put it to you, Windows Python developers: do you care about

Re: [Python-Dev] Single-file Python executables (was: Computed Goto dispatch for Python 2)

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Chris Barker chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote: I'm confused: Doesn't py2exe (optionally) create a single file executable? And py2app on the Mac creates an application bundle, but that is more-or-less the equivalent on OS-X (you may not even be able to have a

Re: [Python-Dev] A quick word on top posting

On Monday, July 20, 2015, Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com wrote: Your +infinity could have easily been top posted -- particularly when there's no in-line comments that require context. just-because-I'm-on-what-feels-like-a-300-baud-connection-ly yr's, Emile On 7/19/2015 2:16 PM, Mark

[Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

On Monday, November 16, 2015, Brett Cannon > wrote: > > > On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 at 12:24 Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > >> Hi Brett >> >> Any thoughts on improving the benchmark set (I think all of >>

[Python-Dev] Benchmark results across all major Python implementations

On Monday, November 16, 2015, Brett Cannon > wrote: > > > On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 at 12:24 Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: > >> Hi Brett >> >> Any thoughts on improving the benchmark set (I think all of >>

Re: [Python-Dev] I hope this won't be my last comment here ~ yet it may well be...

On Thursday, April 21, 2016, Burkhard Meier wrote: > Please do allow me to share my humble experiences of being a software > professional on a Windows platform. > > Almost 20 years. > > You know what; when I tried out 'sugar Linux' or Peppermint,,,the "admin' > dude

Re: [Python-Dev] Top python roles

There are a lot more than "guys" on this list, and it's for the development of the Python language, not for recruiting. Please take this elsewhere. On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 20:10 Marta Daglow wrote: > Hi Guys, > > > > How are you guys? > > > > I’ve just gotten off

Re: [Python-Dev] Exact date of Python 2 EOL?

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Mar 23, 2017, at 09:41 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > >>Can we pick an official date? > > Benjamin should pick the date and update PEP 373. Not to start a bikeshed (calendarshed?), but how about 8 February 2020, or 2/8 as

Re: [Python-Dev] Reorganize Python categories (Core, Library, ...)?

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 5:52 AM, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > Python uses a few categories to group bugs (on bugs.python.org) and > NEWS entries (in the Python changelog). List used by the blurb tool: > > #.. section: Security > #.. section: Core and Builtins > #..

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 553: Built-in debug()

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > IIRC they indeed insinuate debug() into the builtins. My suggestion is > also breakpoint(). > I'm also a bigger fan of the `breakpoint` name. `debug` as a name is already pretty widely used, plus breakpoint is more

Re: [Python-Dev] Drop/deprecate Tkinter?

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 5:37 PM Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net> wrote: > On Wed, 2 May 2018 23:28:22 +0200 > Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net> wrote: > > On Wed, 02 May 2018 21:24:07 + > > Brian Curtin <br...@python.org> wrote: > > > On Wed,

Re: [Python-Dev] Drop/deprecate Tkinter?

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 16:55 Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev < python-dev@python.org> wrote: > As https://bugs.python.org/issue33257 and > https://bugs.python.org/issue33316 showed, Tkinter is broken, for both > Py2 and Py3, with both threaded and non-threaded Tcl, since 2002 at > least, and no-one

Re: [Python-Dev] Dealing with tone in an email

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 2:45 PM Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev < python-dev@python.org> wrote: > On 03.05.2018 21:31, Brett Cannon wrote: > > > > On Thu, 3 May 2018 at 01:27 Paul Moore wrote: > >> On 3 May 2018 at 03:26, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >> >> Will

Re: [Python-Dev] Why is Python for Windows compiled with MSVC?

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 4:19 AM, Oleg Sivokon wrote: > > > so why shouldn’t the one with the most users? > > Because it makes compilation difficult, and cross-compilatin completely > impossible? Why is it difficult: a package maintainer needs to (1) buy MS > Windows (2) create

Re: [Python-Dev] Helping with Documentation

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 9:36 AM Kenneth Reitz wrote: > Hello all, > > > > I’d like to become a core contributor to Python, by contributing polish to > its documentation (adding missing pieces, modernize it a bit in spots, add > more usage examples (itertools), etc). > > > > Is anyone already

[Python-Dev] Re: [RELEASE] Python 2.7.18, the end of an era

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 7:31 AM Larry Hastings wrote: > On 4/20/20 8:06 AM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: > > I'm eudaemonic to announce the immediate availability of Python 2.7.18. [...] > Over all those years, CPython's core developers and contributors sedulously > applied bug fixes to the 2.7

[Python-Dev] Re: Python Documentation, Python language improvement, and productive discussion

Hey Team, Has this workgroup started yet? If not, can I help get it going, or if so, is there a mailing list or place where things are happening? Brian Curtin On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 12:58 Carol Willing wrote: > Hi folks, > > Thanks for the interest. I apologize for the delay i

[Python-Dev] Re: Is the Python review process flawed?

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 10:38 AM wrote: > I just stumbled upon the following issue and subsequent pull request. It > is a very small bugfix. There is currently a bug in Python and this pull > request fixes it. It's not a new feature or an enhancement, it is a bugfix! > Yet, it doesn't get

[Python-Dev] Re: Stale PR

Before looking at the code, my first question would be about the description: "I kinda ran out of time, i suspect more testing is due." If you were out of time then it's probably not done and maybe lacks the tests you initially thought it did, so did you find the time and/or is the PR done? On

[Python-Dev] Re: Steering Council update for February

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 17:54 Chris Angelico wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 11:47 AM Damian Shaw > wrote: > > > > > Does 'master' confuse people? > > > > There's a general movement to replace language from common programming > practises that derive from, or are associated with, the

[Python-Dev] Re: Increase of Spammy PRs and PR reviews

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 8:42 AM Mats Wichmann wrote: > On 1/30/22 04:45, Inada Naoki wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 7:37 PM Irit Katriel > wrote: > > > Some people may do "approval without review" to make their "Profile" > > page richer, because GitHub counts it as a contribution. > >

[Python-Dev] Re: Increase of Spammy PRs and PR reviews

ach. On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 9:40 AM Guido van Rossum wrote: > Where does it say that a review gives you points? The GitHub blog post I > saw about the subject only mentions commits. > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 8:16 AM Brian Curtin wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 8:42 AM M

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