Re: [Python-ideas] File format for automatic and manual tests

2018-08-09 Thread Nicholas Chammas
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 5:09 AM Paul Moore wrote: > This strikes me as *absolutely* something that should be promoted > outside of the stdlib, as a 3rd party project, and once it's > established as a commonly used and accepted standard, only then > propose that the stdlib offer support for it (if

Re: [Python-ideas] File format for automatic and manual tests

2018-08-09 Thread Barry
> On 8 Aug 2018, at 12:08, Victor Porton wrote: > >> On 08/08/18 12:25, Barry Scott wrote: >>> On Tuesday, 7 August 2018 22:57:51 BST Victor Porton wrote: >>> This is an idea of a new PEP. >>> >>> I propose to create a portable file format which will list command line >>> options to run Pytho

Re: [Python-ideas] File format for automatic and manual tests

2018-08-08 Thread Rhodri James
On 07/08/18 22:57, Victor Porton wrote: This is an idea of a new PEP. I propose to create a portable file format which will list command line options to run Python scripts with dual purpose: You are going about this the wrong way. If you want IDE-makers to use your putative file format, you

Re: [Python-ideas] File format for automatic and manual tests

2018-08-08 Thread Jonathan Fine
Hi Victor Thank you for your contribution, regarding standards for Python tools. Here is my two cents worth. You wrote: > We need a standard to make PyCharm and others to conform to it. Things don't quite work that way, in the Python community. True, we have a Benevolent Dictator For Life (BDFL)

Re: [Python-ideas] File format for automatic and manual tests

2018-08-08 Thread Victor Porton
On 08/08/18 12:25, Barry Scott wrote: On Tuesday, 7 August 2018 22:57:51 BST Victor Porton wrote: This is an idea of a new PEP. I propose to create a portable file format which will list command line options to run Python scripts with dual purpose: At the moment I solve this problem with vario

Re: [Python-ideas] File format for automatic and manual tests

2018-08-08 Thread Barry Scott
On Tuesday, 7 August 2018 22:57:51 BST Victor Porton wrote: > This is an idea of a new PEP. > > I propose to create a portable file format which will list command line > options to run Python scripts with dual purpose: At the moment I solve this problem with various solutions, depending on requi

Re: [Python-ideas] File format for automatic and manual tests

2018-08-08 Thread Paul Moore
On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 at 00:35, Victor Porton wrote: > > > But I see no reason why this has anything to do with the Python standard > > library. Can you explain why you want to distribute an experimental > > file format in the Python std lib? > > As I pointed out, I want this format to become common

Re: [Python-ideas] File format for automatic and manual tests

2018-08-07 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
a suggest : don't make it obligatory i think it might come as suggested settings as settings on different environments different. or we can specify only in modules like in setup.py the name of the file, then each user configures it's own (considering pip we can make use it false by default) in t

Re: [Python-ideas] File format for automatic and manual tests

2018-08-07 Thread Victor Porton
On 08/08/18 02:18, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 12:57:51AM +0300, Victor Porton wrote: This is an idea of a new PEP. I propose to create a portable file format which will list command line options to run Python scripts with dual purpose: Feel free to create whatever file form

Re: [Python-ideas] File format for automatic and manual tests

2018-08-07 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 12:57:51AM +0300, Victor Porton wrote: > This is an idea of a new PEP. > > I propose to create a portable file format which will list command line > options to run Python scripts with dual purpose: Feel free to create whatever file format you like. There are tens of thou

[Python-ideas] File format for automatic and manual tests

2018-08-07 Thread Victor Porton
This is an idea of a new PEP. I propose to create a portable file format which will list command line options to run Python scripts with dual purpose: 1. for automatic tests executing scripts from this file (and optionally checking their stdout against specified values). 2. for running the