ChiPy Chicago Python User Group Meeting Tomorrow

2006-08-10 Thread bray
This will be our best meeting yet! ChiPy's Monthly meeting this Thurs. August 10, 2006. 7pm. (except for folks who want to help setup at 6:30 and get first dibs on pizza-compliments of Uncle Roy (Singham)) Topics -- * Adrian Holovaty's new Django Add-on for quickly publishing websites. *

Re: using python at the bash shell?

2006-08-10 Thread Tim Roberts
John Salerno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you use IPython to do normal bash things, like installing, etc.? Most scripts on Linux have a hash-bang line as their first line: #! /bin/sh When you execute that script, the system knows that it has to load sh or bash to process it, regardless of

Re: loop until keypress (Windows XP)

2006-08-10 Thread Andy Terrel
If you did want a linux version you could just make people send a KeyboardInterupt. try: print Press ^C to stop loop except KeyboardInterrupt: some stop action or just pass -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: loop until keypress (Windows XP)

2006-08-10 Thread placid
Gabriel Genellina wrote: At Thursday 10/8/2006 02:19, placid wrote: chr = sys.stdin.read(1) while chr != q: keep printing text chr = sys.stdin.read(1) but again this blocks too. is there a way to do this, wait for user input but dont block? I could use a thread that just

state of SOAP and python?

2006-08-10 Thread Mark Harrison
So I'm investigating doing some SOAP work... Any concensus on what the best python libraries are for doing this? Too bad, xmlrpc is choking on our long longs. :-( Many TIA, Mark -- Mark Harrison Pixar Animation Studios -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: state of SOAP and python?

2006-08-10 Thread Gabriel Genellina
At Thursday 10/8/2006 03:38, Mark Harrison wrote: So I'm investigating doing some SOAP work... Any concensus on what the best python libraries are for doing this? Too bad, xmlrpc is choking on our long longs. :-( Just thinking, if you have control over the two ends, and dont need real

Re: state of SOAP and python?

2006-08-10 Thread Maurice LING
Hi, I've been using SOAPpy for a number of my work. Looks good. maurice Mark Harrison wrote: So I'm investigating doing some SOAP work... Any concensus on what the best python libraries are for doing this? Too bad, xmlrpc is choking on our long longs. :-( Many TIA, Mark --

def __init__(self, link, *arg, **key):

2006-08-10 Thread flogic
Hi i m a newbie to python .. jus started to learn ...am quite confused about variable arguments used in python functions and in init. i dont where to use **keys , **kwds,*args ...etc... if anyone culd give some explanation with examples or clear detailed web link, it wuld be helpful to me

Re: loop until keypress (Windows XP)

2006-08-10 Thread Thomas Guettler
Am Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:19:24 -0700 schrieb placid: Hi all, Im using the cmd module and i have command that loops and keeps on printing text, what i want to be able to do is loop until the user presses a particular key, say Q/q ? I tried the following code; There is a portable getch()

Re: __contains__ vs. __getitem__

2006-08-10 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
David Isaac wrote: Alan Isaac wrote: I have a subclass of dict where __getitem__ returns None rather than raising KeyError for missing keys. (The why of that is not important for this question.) Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, actually it may be important... What's so

excel in unix?

2006-08-10 Thread s99999999s2003
hi is it possible to create excel files using python in Unix env? if so, what module should i use? thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

IP address

2006-08-10 Thread Lad
I would like to record visitor's IP address.How can I do that in Python? Thanks for help L -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: excel in unix?

2006-08-10 Thread Robert J. Hansen
is it possible to create excel files using python in Unix env? Yes. An Excel file is just a sequence of bytes, and Python can write sequences of bytes just fine. So can many other languages, but why would you want to use anything but Python? That's a useless answer to your question, I know.

Re: def __init__(self, link, *arg, **key):

2006-08-10 Thread Duncan Booth
flogic wrote: Hi i m a newbie to python .. jus started to learn ...am quite confused about variable arguments used in python functions and in init. i dont where to use **keys , **kwds,*args ...etc... if anyone culd give some explanation with examples or clear detailed web link, it wuld

sys.platform documentation?

2006-08-10 Thread Michiel Sikma
Hello everybody, I was thinking about making a really insignificant addition to an online system that I'm making using Python: namely, I would like it to print the platform that it is running on in a human-readable manner. I was thinking of doing it like this: import sys platforms = {

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread H J van Rooyen
Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On 8 Aug 2006 04:59:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the | following in comp.lang.python: | | | Some of it may be a reaction from old-timers who remember FORTRAN, | where (if memory serves), code had to start in column 16 and code |

Re: excel in unix?

2006-08-10 Thread John Machin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi is it possible to create excel files using python in Unix env? if so, what module should i use? Try this: http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/pyExcelerator/0.6.0a ... writes Excel files without apparent difficulty, doesn't preach at you :-) --

Re: Session implementation for Python

2006-08-10 Thread Vlad Dogaru
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Vlad Dogaru wrote: Hello, is there any PHP-like implementation for sessions in Python? I fear that writing my own would be seriously insecure, besides I could actually learn a lot by inspecting the code. The reason I am asking is that I would like to

Re: excel in unix?

2006-08-10 Thread Christian Meesters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi is it possible to create excel files using python in Unix env? if so, what module should i use? thanks You might want to give pyExelerator a try: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyexcelerator Remark: I had the problem of having a bunch of Data on my Linux machine

Re: def __init__(self, link, *arg, **key):

2006-08-10 Thread flogic
Thanks a lot... CIAO Duncan Booth wrote: flogic wrote: Hi i m a newbie to python .. jus started to learn ...am quite confused about variable arguments used in python functions and in init. i dont where to use **keys , **kwds,*args ...etc... if anyone culd give some

Re: why does getpass() show the input?

2006-08-10 Thread Robin Haswell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ python Python 2.4.2 (#2, Sep 30 2005, 21:19:01) [GCC 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu8)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. # The cause of this problem is because you're using the console ... # to test getpass.

Re: MergeSort

2006-08-10 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:50:11 -0700, ben81 wrote: Hi, the following code is adopted PseudoCode from Introduction to Algorithms (Cormen et al). I'm assuming you are doing this as a learning exercise, because -- trust me on this -- nothing you write in pure Python code will come within cooee

Re: why does getpass() show the input?

2006-08-10 Thread John Machin
Robin Haswell wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ python Python 2.4.2 (#2, Sep 30 2005, 21:19:01) [GCC 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu8)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. # The cause of this problem is because you're using the console ...

Re: sys.platform documentation?

2006-08-10 Thread Michiel Sikma
Op 10-aug-2006, om 10:44 heeft Sybren Stuvel het volgende geschreven: Michiel Sikma enlightened us with: However, in order to populate the list of platforms, I need to know which strings sys.platform can return. I haven't found any documentation on this, but I guess that I'm not looking in

How to change the path for python binary?

2006-08-10 Thread Nico Grubert
Hi there, I have installed Python 2.3.5 on Suse Linux 10. If I enter python in the shell, the Python 2.3.5 interpreter is called. After I installed Python 2.4.3. the Python 2.4.3 interpreter is called which is the default behaviour I guess. which python brings me /usr/local/bin/python which

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes No. In that case Python makes it more readily apparent that your code is too complex. If only life and software engineering was that simple. Not every problem can be reduced to one screenful of code, not in the real world anyway. Stephen

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gerhard Fiedler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I mean the code should be written so that as few as possible comments are necessary to understand it. I don't mean that additional comments are a bad thing. Agreed. Concise code is always good. Just found this on c.l.ruby.

Re: How to change the path for python binary?

2006-08-10 Thread Amit Khemka
On 8/10/06, Nico Grubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I have installed Python 2.3.5 on Suse Linux 10. If I enter python in the shell, the Python 2.3.5 interpreter is called. After I installed Python 2.4.3. the Python 2.4.3 interpreter is called which is the default behaviour I guess.

Advice on a TCP passthru daemon for HTTP proxy rotation

2006-08-10 Thread Robin Haswell
Hey there Soon we will have many squid proxies on many seperate connections for use by our services. I want to make them available to users via a single HTTP proxy - however, I want fine-grained control over how the squid proxies are selected for each connection. This is so I can collect

Re: sys.platform documentation?

2006-08-10 Thread Michiel Sikma
Op 10-aug-2006, om 11:50 heeft Sybren Stüvel het volgende geschreven: On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:46:03AM +0200, Michiel Sikma wrote: So there probably isn't even any kind of list that we can find? That's too bad. It's not a big loss to me, but I imagine that it's kind of annoying if you

Re: Escape sequences (colour) and padding with %8s%

2006-08-10 Thread Anton81
For example: print '%8s' % '\x1b[34mTEST\x1b[0m' doesn't not indent 'TEST' whereas print '%8s' % TEST' works. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: why does getpass() show the input?

2006-08-10 Thread Robin Haswell
Please look again at the OP's post. Here is the relevant part, with my annotations: You're right, my bad. It's still first thing in the morning here :'( -Rob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Advice on a TCP passthru daemon for HTTP proxy rotation

2006-08-10 Thread Rob Wolfe
Robin Haswell wrote: Hey there Soon we will have many squid proxies on many seperate connections for use by our services. I want to make them available to users via a single HTTP proxy - however, I want fine-grained control over how the squid proxies are selected for each connection. This

Re: Escape sequences (colour) and padding with %8s%

2006-08-10 Thread Gabriel Genellina
At Thursday 10/8/2006 07:04, Anton81 wrote: For example: print '%8s' % '\x1b[34mTEST\x1b[0m' doesn't not indent 'TEST' whereas print '%8s' % TEST' works. If you insist on building the codes yourself instead of using the standard curses library... print '\x1b[34m%8s\x1b[0m' % 'TEST'

Re: IP address

2006-08-10 Thread Lad
Sybren Stuvel wrote: Lad enlightened us with: I would like to record visitor's IP address.How can I do that in Python? Too little information. Visitors of what? Sybren I have a website written in Python and I would like to login every visitor's IP address. In other words, if a visitor

Re: IP address

2006-08-10 Thread Jon Ribbens
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lad wrote: I have a website written in Python and I would like to login every visitor's IP address. In other words, if a visitor come to my Python application, this application will record his IP. Depending on what CGI framework you're using, something like:

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread Slawomir Nowaczyk
On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 07:33:41 -0700 Rob Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # Slawomir Nowaczyk wrote: # # Really, typing brace after function/if/etc should add newlines and # indent code as required -- automatically. Actually, for me, it is even # *less* typing in C and similar languages... I

How to execute a file outside module's namespace?

2006-08-10 Thread Slawomir Nowaczyk
Hello, Let's say I have a module emacs, defining function eexecfile(file): def eexecfile(file): # do other stuff execfile(file,globals()) # do other stuff Now, assume I have file test.py containing an assignment x=1 If I run python and do: import emacs emacs.eexecfile(test.py)

Re: Escape sequences (colour) and padding with %8s%

2006-08-10 Thread Anton81
If you insist on building the codes yourself instead of using the standard curses library... print '\x1b[34m%8s\x1b[0m' % 'TEST' Will the curses library help? The problem is I need the colour coded in my string and the print pattern is static. What's the quickest way to solve this without

Re: Escape sequences (colour) and padding with %8s%

2006-08-10 Thread Anthra Norell
Anton, See if this suits your purpose: http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/SE/2.2%20beta Below the dotted line is how it works. Frederic - Original Message - From: Anton81 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: comp.lang.python To: python-list@python.org Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:48 PM

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carl Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Stephen Kellett wrote: I don't really understand how a closing brace helps here. Care to explain why it helps you? (Deeply nested long functions are evil anyways. If you have such a I didn't write deeply nested. I wrote multiple

Re: sys.platform documentation?

2006-08-10 Thread Rob Wolfe
Michiel Sikma wrote: So here's the question of the day: what does your sys.platform tell you? :-) uname -srv HP-UX B.11.00 D python -c import sys; print sys.platform hp-ux11 Regards, Rob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Easy image rendering?

2006-08-10 Thread bearophileHUGS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: my eventual goal is to be able to put the pictures on the screen with a full-screen interface. Not in a visible window, with just the picture and then a black backdrop for it. Pygame (plus PIL if you need) can do that, Pygame manages full screens too. Bye, bearophile --

Re: sys.platform documentation?

2006-08-10 Thread Tim Golden
Michiel Sikma wrote: Hello everybody, I was thinking about making a really insignificant addition to an online system that I'm making using Python: namely, I would like it to print the platform that it is running on in a human-readable manner. I was thinking of doing it like this: [... snip

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread Rob Wolfe
Slawomir Nowaczyk wrote: On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 07:33:41 -0700 Rob Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # Slawomir Nowaczyk wrote: # # Really, typing brace after function/if/etc should add newlines and # indent code as required -- automatically. Actually, for me, it is even # *less* typing in C

Make Object Oriented?

2006-08-10 Thread Michael Yanowitz
Hello: Are there any tools to convert non-object-oriented code into object-oriented code? If not, perhaps something that I can pass in two (or more) classes and will create a base-class and simplify the passed in classed to be derived from the base class? Ideally this would be Python but

Re: technique to enter text using a mobile phone keypad (T9 dictionary-based disambiguation)

2006-08-10 Thread bearophileHUGS
Yu-Xi Lim: Thank you for your comments, and sorry for my last cryptic answer. I think Bearophile isn't refering to compression of the dictionary, but the predictive algorithms used by modern data compressors. However, I think he's over-complicating the issue. It is *not* a data compression

Re: IP address

2006-08-10 Thread Lad
Sybren Stuvel wrote: Lad enlightened us with: I have a website written in Python and I would like to login every visitor's IP address. Ehm... that's probably log not login. In other words, if a visitor come to my Python application, this application will record his IP. Is it

Re: Advice on a TCP passthru daemon for HTTP proxy rotation

2006-08-10 Thread Bryan Olson
Robin Haswell wrote: Hey there Soon we will have many squid proxies on many seperate connections for use by our services. I want to make them available to users via a single HTTP proxy - however, I want fine-grained control over how the squid proxies are selected for each connection. This

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread gslindstrom
Carl Banks wrote: Although Python doesn't do this, it is possible to mandate a specific indent (4 spaces, say), or at least a reasonable consistent indent snip I like running reindent.py (found in your Python source directory under Tools/Scripts) which cleans up indentations, trailing

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread Rhamphoryncus
Stephen Kellett wrote: function() loop1() blah blah loop2() blah loop3() blah blah3 otherloop()

Re: Looking for an intellisense with good help IDE for Python

2006-08-10 Thread kilnhead
I run PyDev and Eclipse on a 800mhz Celeron without any trouble. Just a bit slow. Michiel Sikma wrote: I can attest to PyDev being an excellent extension to Eclipse. But Eclipse kind of requires a heavy machine to run, being a gigantic Java program. Michiel Op 8-aug-2006, om 15:36 heeft

Re: sys.platform documentation?

2006-08-10 Thread Michiel Sikma
Op 10-aug-2006, om 13:00 heeft Tim Golden het volgende geschreven: Michiel Sikma wrote: Hello everybody, I was thinking about making a really insignificant addition to an online system that I'm making using Python: namely, I would like it to print the platform that it is running on in a

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread Carl Banks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carl Banks wrote: Although Python doesn't do this, it is possible to mandate a specific indent (4 spaces, say), or at least a reasonable consistent indent snip I like running reindent.py (found in your Python source directory under Tools/Scripts) which cleans up

Re: Make Object Oriented?

2006-08-10 Thread Simon Hibbs
I can't even vaguely concieve of how such a think could work, even at a trivial, hypothetical level. The code converter would ahve to actualy understand at a general level what the program does and how it does it, then come up with an orriginal way to solve the same problem using a different

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread Carl Banks
Stephen Kellett wrote: I really dislike that the end of loop2 is implicit rather than explicit. So you can't see at a glance how many blocks were closed. That's fair. Add a little chalk mark to the against column. C/C++ have quite a number of horrible styles (K/R being one) Oddly, I

String Formatting

2006-08-10 Thread OriginalBrownster
Hi there: I was wondering if its at all possible to search through a string for a specific character. I want to search through a string backwords and find the last period/comma, then take everything after that period/comma Example If i had a list:bread, butter, milk I want to just take

Absolute beginner - is this feasible?

2006-08-10 Thread lcazarre
I am by no means a serious programmer (which will become evident as you read this very message), except that I use VBA almost daily to automate Excel spreadsheets. I do enjoy programming however and the only thing that prevented me from learning a language other than VBA is the lack of a project.

Re: Eval (was Re: Question about using python as a scripting language)

2006-08-10 Thread Brendon Towle
Date: 9 Aug 2006 14:12:01 -0700From: "Simon Forman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Eval (was Re: Question about using python as a scripting language)To: python-list@python.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"Fredrik Lundh posted a great piece of code to

Re: String Formatting

2006-08-10 Thread Avell Diroll
OriginalBrownster wrote: Hi there: I was wondering if its at all possible to search through a string for a specific character. I want to search through a string backwords and find the last period/comma, then take everything after that period/comma Example If i had a list:bread,

Re: String Formatting

2006-08-10 Thread Pontus Ekberg
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:35:26 -0700, OriginalBrownster wrote: Hi there: I was wondering if its at all possible to search through a string for a specific character. I want to search through a string backwords and find the last period/comma, then take everything after that period/comma

Re: How to reverse tuples in a list?

2006-08-10 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Noah wrote (among other things ;)): I have a list of tuples I want to reverse the order of the elements inside the tuples. But it seems like there should be a clever way to do this with a list comprehensions. Problem is I can't see how to apply reverse() to each tuple in the list because

Re: ALLAH

2006-08-10 Thread Wildemar Wildenburger
Sybren Stuvel wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened us with: Kader; soru:madem,herþey bir kader defterinde yazýlý ve herþey ona göre oluyor.o halde insanlar niçin cehenneme gidiyor? cevap:evet herþey bir kader defterinde yazýlý ve herþey ona göre oluyor.ama,defterde yazýlý olduðu için o þey

Re: Make Object Oriented?

2006-08-10 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Michael Yanowitz wrote: Hello: Are there any tools to convert non-object-oriented code into object-oriented code? Yes, of course. That's what we call a programmer. Why ? If not, perhaps something that I can pass in two (or more) classes and will create a base-class and simplify the

Re: Make Object Oriented?

2006-08-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It would be ease to create such a tool if you dont care if your code is a Functional Decomposition (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?FunctionalDecomposition) AntiPatern. But OO design is hard to do automagically from a bunch of functions and data structures. Methods and attributes are in the same object for

Re: Absolute beginner - is this feasible?

2006-08-10 Thread Michiel Sikma
Op 10-aug-2006, om 14:45 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: Now my questions: - is it legal? (I do have a subscription to Factiva. I do not intend to distribute the printouts) - If so, can I use Python to automate this task? Thank you. --

Re: Make Object Oriented?

2006-08-10 Thread h112211
Michael Yanowitz wrote: Hello: Are there any tools to convert non-object-oriented code into object-oriented code? Nope, but you can have the next best thing: rewrite it from scratch yourself. I did that to a smallish (about 50k lines) C program once, and the resulting 70k lines or so C++

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread Slawomir Nowaczyk
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:01:51 -0700 Rob Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # if x==1: # # the newline is inserted automatically when you type :? That's a # # Exactly. Really? The newline? I know it *indents* automatically. But it definitely doesn't insert newline when I try it. I even downloaded

Re: Absolute beginner - is this feasible?

2006-08-10 Thread lcazarre
You can indeed automate this task, but I don't know if writing to a Word file is possible. Thanks to you all. I mentioned Word as example. Actually, any format would do, as long as I can print them (pdf, txt,etc.). Now I just have to learn Python! LC --

Re: Python-list Digest, Vol 35, Issue 160

2006-08-10 Thread skip
Brendon Seems that parsing negative numbers is outside of the scope of Brendon this routine. Here's the source (which is Frederik's source Brendon with one minor renaming; I take no credit here); anyone have Brendon any ideas? Negative numbers are actually tokenized as a MINUS

Re: ChiPy Chicago Python User Group Meeting Tomorrow

2006-08-10 Thread david_wahler
I'll be out of the office until approximately August 20th. If you have any questions, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- David Wahler -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Two Classes In Two Files

2006-08-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes, I have been ruined for the last 5 years with Java and C#. Perl was my only salvation, but now I can't read the programs I wrote. Pedro Werneck wrote: On 9 Aug 2006 12:35:48 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's just the way it is. Why worry about it? Wasn't so

Re: Embedding Python in C/C++

2006-08-10 Thread kingcrustybun
We are still struggling with this but having spent many hours looking at related code on the net, i have noticed the following sequence quite a lot globals = PyDict_New(); PyDict_SetItemString(globals, __builtins__, PyEval_GetBuiltins()); Can anyone explain what this does exactly? I know what

Re: Absolute beginner - is this feasible?

2006-08-10 Thread BartlebyScrivener
Michiel Sikma wrote: I don't know if writing to a Word file is possible. It's a proprietary format, afterall. see: Python To Word Capture script output in MS Word http://gflanagan.net/site/dotnet/05/RunPythonScriptFromWord.html rd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Two Classes In Two Files

2006-08-10 Thread Ant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I have been ruined for the last 5 years with Java and C#. Perl was my only salvation, but now I can't read the programs I wrote. ROFL! That's got to be a contender for Quote of the week. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Two Classes In Two Files

2006-08-10 Thread Thomas Nelson
Perhaps __init__.py has what you're looking for? THN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just started working with Python and ran into an annoyance. Is there a way to avoid having to use the from xxx import yyy syntax from files in the same directory? I'm sure it's been asked a million times, but I

Re: Eval (was Re: Question about the use of python as a scripting language)

2006-08-10 Thread Brendon Towle
Oops -- I missed the subject line on my last post.On 10 Aug 2006, at 9:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:    Brendon Seems that parsing negative numbers is outside of the scope of    Brendon this routine. Here's the source (which is Frederik's source    Brendon with one minor renaming; I take no

Re: why does getpass() show the input?

2006-08-10 Thread John Salerno
John Machin wrote: Is that meant to be a statement or a question? Heh heh, sorry! I guess both. Let me clarify: (1) what platform you are running on, WinXP (2) did you enter that at the usual OS command line (with/without readline), or in an IDE (e.g IDLE) or some other shell (e.g.

Re: Password authentication systems

2006-08-10 Thread Paul Rubin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Presumably, this is done using the crypt() system call (and, fortunuately, Python has a builtin crypt module!). Presumably, as well, this is at least somewhat secure, assuming a source of cryptographic randomness to use to choose the salt. Are SHA1 and MD5 suitable

Re: using python with tar files and compressed files

2006-08-10 Thread John Salerno
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This syntax works on other bzipped tar files. But it's not unheard of that large tarballs will get corrupted from a download mirror. Use a download manager and try redownloading the file. Usually a mirror will include an md5sum text file so that you can compare the

Re: converting a nested try/except statement into try/except/else

2006-08-10 Thread John Salerno
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: try: if int(text) = 0: raise ValueError except ValueError: self.error_message() return False else: return True Nice! Thanks! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: converting a nested try/except statement into try/except/else

2006-08-10 Thread John Salerno
Simon Forman wrote: What about the version I gave you 8 days ago? ;-) http://groups.google.ca/group/comp.lang.python/msg/a80fcd8932b0733a It's clean, does the job, and doesn't have any extra nesting. Peace, ~Simon I remember that version, but I found it a little hard to follow. It

Re: converting a nested try/except statement into try/except/else

2006-08-10 Thread John Salerno
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: try: if int(text) = 0: raise ValueError Hmm, I'm actually not so sure about this line now. It doesn't seem right to raise a ValueError when the result of the expression is negative, because even though it's a problem for my program, it isn't really a

(newbie) Float() and high precision

2006-08-10 Thread wirecom
What's the best way to do higher precision maths than the standard Float()? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: (newbie) Float() and high precision

2006-08-10 Thread Michiel Sikma
Op 10-aug-2006, om 12:26 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: What's the best way to do higher precision maths than the standard Float()? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list You know, I don't usually answer questions like the gurus of this mailing

Re: Eval (was Re: Question about the use of python as a scripting language)

2006-08-10 Thread skip
Brendon A shortcut occurs to me; maybe someone can tell me what's wrong Brendon with my reasoning here. It seems that any string that is unsafe Brendon to pass to eval() must involve a function call, and thus must Brendon contain an opening paren. Given that I know that the data I

Re: Password authentication systems

2006-08-10 Thread neokosmos
First, I'd just like to say, wow, and thanks to both you and Sybren for your fast responses. :) Twenty minutes is less time than it takes to get an answer from some companies paid tech support. ;) Paul Rubin wrote: There are two main issues: 1) Unix password hashing uses several different

Re: (newbie) Float() and high precision

2006-08-10 Thread neokosmos
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the best way to do higher precision maths than the standard Float()? It depends exactly what your needs are. What sort of application are you thinking of? You may actually need a good numerical analyst and not necessarily a new datatype here. :-) --

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-10 07:40:01, Stephen Kellett wrote: To answer your first question: In C++/Ruby/Pascal you'd have something like this function() { loop1() { [...] } } I really dislike that the end of loop2 is implicit rather than explicit. Since in the above

Re: Eval (was Re: Question about the use of python as a scripting language)

2006-08-10 Thread Max Erickson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendon A shortcut occurs to me; maybe someone can tell me what's wrong Brendon with my reasoning here. It seems that any string that is unsafe Brendon to pass to eval() must involve a function call, and thus must Brendon contain an opening

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread Terry Reedy
Stephen Kellett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To answer your first question: In C++/Ruby/Pascal you'd have something like this function() { loop1() { blah blah loop2() {

Re: (newbie) Float() and high precision

2006-08-10 Thread casevh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the best way to do higher precision maths than the standard Float()? For basic operations, look at Decimal(). If you need more speed, and basic operations, search for gmpy. If you need advanced functions, look at http://calcrpnpy.sourceforge.net/ and related

Re: Eval (was Re: Question about the use of python as a scripting language)

2006-08-10 Thread Brendon Towle
On 10 Aug 2006, at 10:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:    Brendon A shortcut occurs to me; maybe someone can tell me what's wrong    Brendon with my reasoning here. It seems that any string that is unsafe    Brendon to pass to eval() must involve a function call, and thus must    Brendon contain an

Re: do people really complain about significant whitespace?

2006-08-10 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-10 06:44:04, Stephen Kellett wrote: Just found this on c.l.ruby. Seems kind of relevant. http://www.americanscientist.org/template/AssetDetail/assetid/51982 The Semicolon Wars Good reading :) Thanks. Gerhard -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: knowing when file is flushed to disk

2006-08-10 Thread John Pote
Thanks for the replies. I guessed the situation would be flush() and trust. The probability of a crash between flush() returning and data actually written resulting in a trashed disk must be very small. But if you can be certain without too much effort it's got to be a good idea, so I thought

draw an image in wx.BufferedDC onto the page created by AddPage of wx.Notebook

2006-08-10 Thread zxo102
Hi everyone, I have tried two days to figure out how to draw the image in wx.BufferedDC on the page created by AddPage of wx.Notebook but still got no clue. The attached example works fine. If I click the menu Draw -- New Drawing. The image with wx.BufferedDC/wx.BufferedPaintDC can move

Re: Eval (was Re: Question about the use of python as a scripting language)

2006-08-10 Thread skip
Brendon Am I missing a third option? I can't think of one, but I'm not very smart. ;-) Skip -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Make Object Oriented?

2006-08-10 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be ease to create such a tool Hmmm ? May I express some very huge doubts here ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Newbie - How to iterate list or scalar ?

2006-08-10 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Delaney, Timothy (Tim) wrote: Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: What I wonder here is why __iter__ has been added to lists and tuples but not to strings (not that I'm complaining, it's just curiousity...) Because someone got around to doing it. Ok, so it's definitively a design decision, and

Re: Make Object Oriented?

2006-08-10 Thread John Salerno
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be ease to create such a tool Hmmm ? May I express some very huge doubts here ? But the link he gave also says this: Perfect Java programs can be written... Ok, I think some of this group's less-than-favorable opinion of Java has

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