Re: Securely distributing python source code as an application?

xkenneth wrote: > Message should have read: > Hi All, > > I'll shortly be distributing a number of python applications that > use proprietary source code. The software is part of a much larger > system and it > will need to be distributed securely. How can i achieve this? You need to define

Re: Web Ontology Language (OWL) parsing

Sean Davis wrote: > I would like to parse some OWL files, but I haven't dealt with OWL in > python or any other language for that matter. Some quick google > searches do not turn up much in the way of possibilities for doing so > in python. Any suggestions of available code or using existing > li

Re: Fast kNN from python

Janto Dreijer wrote: > I am looking for a Python implementation or bindings to a library that > can quickly find k-Nearest Neighbors given an arbitrary distance > metric between objects. Specifically, I have an "edit distance" > between objects that is written in Python. Orange? See http://www.ail

Re: how to implementation latent semantic indexing in python..

Alex Martelli wrote: > Tim Churches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> malkarouri wrote: >>> On 13 Jul, 17:18, 78ncp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> hi... >>>> how to implementation algorithm latent semantic indexing in python >>>&

Re: how to implementation latent semantic indexing in python..

malkarouri wrote: > On 13 Jul, 17:18, 78ncp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> hi... >> how to implementation algorithm latent semantic indexing in python >> programming...?? > > Of course you are aware that LSA is patented.. There is a US patent on it, sealed in 1989, but is it patented in any other

Pythonic cats (and dogs?)

A challenge: an elegant, parsimonious and more general[1] implementation of this, in Python: http://lol.ianloic.com/feed/www.planetpython.org/rss20.xml Tim C [1] Dogs, ponies, babies, politicians... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Questions about mathematical and statistical functionality in Python

Michael Hoffman wrote: > Talbot Katz wrote: > >> I hope you'll indulge an ignorant outsider. I work at a financial >> software firm, and the tool I currently use for my research is R, a >> software environment for statistical computing and graphics. R is >> designed with matrix manipulation i

Flags of the world

http://shaheeilyas.com/flags/ Scroll to the bottom to see why this is not entirely off-topic. Are there other public examples in which Python has been used to harvest and represent public information in useful and/or interesting ways? Ideas for some more? Tim C -- http://mail.python.org/mailma

Re: Anyone use PyPar (Python MPI implementation) recently?

Ole Nielsen wrote: > Cheers and thanks Now that it is possible to purchase servers from tier-1 manufacturers with dual quad-core processes (8 CPUs) for under $10k, complete with discs and lots of RAM - that is, no tedious-to-set-up, space-occupying, power-hungry and high-maintenance Beowulf-style

Re: HL7 servers in Python?

ttp://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2003-June/thread.html#210163>[ > thread ] > <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2003-June/subject.html#210163>[ > subject ] > <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2003-June/author.html#210163>[ > auth

Re: Open Source Charting Tool

A.M wrote: > I can't browse to www.reporlab.org, but I found http://www.reportlab.com/ > which has a commercial charting product. Is that what you referring to? Typo in the URL. Try http://www.reportlab.org You should also have a look at http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ Tim C -- http://mail

Re: OLAP and pivot tables

Ben Stroud wrote: > George Sakkis wrote: > >> After a brief search, I didn't find any python package related to OLAP >> and pivot tables. Did I miss anything ? To be more precise, I'm not so >> interested in a full-blown OLAP server with an RDBMS backend, but >> rather a pythonic API for construct

Re: Software Needs Philosophers

Xah Lee wrote: > Software Needs Philosophers > > by Steve Yegge, 2006-04-15. > > Software needs philosophers. > > People don't put much stock in philosophers these days. The popular > impression of philosophy is that it's just rhetoric, just frivolous > debating about stuff that can never proper

Re: Recommendations for a PostgreSQL db adapter, please?

Gerhard Häring wrote: > Keen Anthony wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am currently using psycopg 2 as my db adapter for a mod_python & >>> PostgreSQL web app. It's works fine, and I haven't any complaints. I >>> would appreciate some input on what other pythonistas like in an >>> adapter. There were

Link to Daily Python-URL from www.python.org?

Am I correct in thinking that there is no longer any link from anywhere on the Python Web site at http;//www.python.org to the Daily Python-URL at http://www.pythonware.com/daily/ ? There is no sign of it on the Community page, nor any reference to it at http://planet.python.org/ I'm sure there wa

Re: pyRTF and cells

Raja Raman Sundararajan wrote: > Hello, > I have been playing around with pyRTF module for generating rtf > documents. > Its a very nice tool that fits my basic needs. However I have a problem > controlling cells in > a table. > > I am not able to > 1. do an align right of contents inside a ce

Re: MS word document generator

Raja Raman Sundararajan wrote: > Hello guys, > Is there any nice library to generate word documents using Python. > > As of today I am generating a HTML document and then open it with MS > Word. > But the problem is that I am not able to control the pages in the > document and as a result of i

Re: Cheese Shop: some history for the new-comers

A.M. Kuchling wrote: > On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:50:26 +1100, > richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So I did what people always do in this situation, I asked Barry Warsaw to >> name. it. And he did, "Cheese Shop". I liked the name, so it was done. When >> the new pydotorg machines went live l

Re: Cheese Shop -> BSOL?

Tim Churches wrote: > Would it be possible to rename "Cheese Shop" as "Bright Side of Life"? > > That's a cheery, upbeat name, there are overtones of commerce or filthy > lucre, I meant "no overtones", mea culpa. Tim C -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Cheese Shop -> BSOL?

Would it be possible to rename "Cheese Shop" as "Bright Side of Life"? That's a cheery, upbeat name, there are overtones of commerce or filthy lucre, it is a clear reference to one of the Monty Python crew's greatest works, it can be easily abbreviated to BSOL (to avoid confusion with BSL for bloo

Re: Python Evangelism

Benny wrote: > Paul Boddie wrote: > >> Bizarre names may be cute (to some people) but they don't lend >> themselves to guessing or searching. Consequently, people who want >> answers yesterday aren't likely to be amused to eventually discover >> that the name of the resource they've been looking f

Re: Python Evangelism

Kay Schluehr wrote: > Magnus Lycka wrote: > >> They do this on purpose in the U.S. A country full >> of religious fanatics, where it's impossible to be >> elected president unless you claim that you are a >> devoted Christian and say "God bless America" every >> time you open your mouth. > > Mayb

Re: Python Evangelism

Douglas Alan wrote: > Ruby didn't start catching on until Ruby on Rails came out. If Python > has a naming problem, it's with the name of Django, rather than > Python. Firstly, Django doesn't have "Python" in the name, so it > doesn't popularize the language behind it, even should Django become >

Re: Python Evangelism

Robert Boyd wrote: > And re Cheeseshop, yes, it's a poor name when you consider that the > point of the skit was that the cheeseshop _had no cheese_, whose only > purpose was to "deliberately waste your time." Not a great name for a > package library, especially for those in the know of Python humo

Python and the health of the public

The use of Python in a public health surveillance system is described here (see references 15 and 26): http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2458/5/141 Some more papers describing Python's starring role in some other public health projects should appear in the next several months. Tim C -- http:/

Re: Re: Calling GPL code from a Python application

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:53:32 +1100, Tim Churches wrote: > > >> Secondly, perhaps you should consider that dynamically linking to a > >> work is creating a derivative work, which most certainly falls under >

Re: Calling GPL code from a Python application

Mike Meyer wrote: >> So is putting that program behind a web server and letting others >>execute it. > > That's pretty clearly a public performance. One has to wonder whether > or not the exemption for program execution would apply to such? Of > course, in cases where it matters (i.e. - I provide

Re: Calling GPL code from a Python application

Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:57:58 +1100, Tim Churches wrote: > > >>Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>In particular: >>> >>>http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html >>> >>>[quot

Re: Re: Calling GPL code from a Python application

Steven D'Aprano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In particular: > > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html > > [quote] > > Q: If a library is released under the GPL (not the LGPL), does that mean > that any program which uses it has to be under the GPL? > > A: Yes, because the program as it is a

Re: Re: Calling GPL code from a Python application

Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But in that case, you're going to need a real lawyer, so you might as > well talk to one beforehand, and only try what they think you have a > chance of getting in court. This is excellent advice. We did, in fact, talk to a real lawyer, and paid him real mo

Re: Re: Calling GPL code from a Python application

Mike Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In > particular, if I distribute an application that has to be dynamically > linked with a GPL'ed library to run, I need to distribute my > application under the terms of the GPL. Mike, Which section(s) of the GPL say(s) that, exactly? I mean, where is dyna

Re: Calling GPL code from a Python application

Michel Sanner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of the greatest feature of Python in my opinion is the way the > interpreter can be used to integrate a wide variety of > software packages by dynamically linking them. This approach has been > extremely successful for us so far but now I run > into

Re: New Python chess module

Will McGugan wrote: > There is a new version if anyone is interested... > > http://www.willmcgugan.com/chess.py > > It contains optimizations and bugfixes. > > Can anyone suggest a name for this module? pyChess is already taken... Pyawn??? Tim C -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyt

Re: python logo

Fredrik Lundh wrote: >Tim Churches wrote: > > > >>>>also, ahem, to certain aspects of the Python standard library. >>>> >>>> >>>you've read the python style guide, I presume? >>> >>>http://www.python.

Re: python logo

Fredrik Lundh wrote: > Tim Churches wrote: > > >>PPS Emerson's assertion might well apply not just to Python logos, but >>also, ahem, to certain aspects of the Python standard library. > > > you've read the python style guide, I presume? > >

Re: python logo

Xah Lee wrote: >i noticed that Python uses various logos: > >http://python.org/pics/pythonHi.gif >http://python.org/pics/PyBanner038.gif >http://python.org/pics/PyBanner037.gif >http://python.org/pics/PythonPoweredSmall.gif >http://wiki.python.org/pics/PyBanner057.gif > > is this some decision tha

Re: Robust statistics and optimmization from Python

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Robert Kern wrote: > > > >>If you find suitable >>FORTRAN or C code that implements a particular "robust" algorithm, it >>can probably wrapped for scipy relatively easily. > > > An alternative would be to call R (a free statistical package) from > Python, using somet

Re: SAS Transport FIle

Jeff wrote: > Does anyone know of a python module to read a SAS Transport (XPORT) > file? I am not aware of any native Python module to read SAS portable transport (XPORT) files (but that doesn't mean you shouldn't search for one using Google etc). However, the format of the XPORT files is publica

Re: Cheese shop (was Re: python2.4/site-packages)

Michael Hoffman wrote: >Ben Finney wrote: > > > >>Conversely, PyPI is a dull name with no obvious pronunciation, thus >>difficult to remember; whereas Cheese Shop is a short phrase (that can >>be translated), is easy to remember and has easy analogies to its >>actual function. >> >> > >A pla

Python-based system wins 2005 Australian Eureka Science Prize

See http://www.amonline.net.au/eureka/communications_technology/2005_winner.htm A Google search on "scamseek python" reveals the nexus with Python - see for example http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~lkmrl/Scamseek-Project-data-mining-conf-v0.pdf Congratulations to Prof Jon Patrick and team on their win,

Re: When someone from Britain speaks, Americans hear a "British accent"...

muldoon wrote: > Americans consider having a "British accent" a sign of sophistication > and high intelligence. Many companies hire salespersons from Britain to > represent their products,etc. Question: When the British hear an > "American accent," does it sound unsophisticated and dumb? > > Be bl

Re: A World Beyond Capitalism 2005, An Annual International Multiracial Alliance Building Peace Conference Is Accepting Proposals...

Peter Hansen wrote: > Jack Diederich wrote: > >>The '.info' domain also defeats >>the linux 'whois' command to dig for registrar info. > > > Maybe so, but it's always pretty easy to Google for "whois" plus the > domain to find a way of doing it via the web, in this case with > http://www.afili

ANN: Version 0.9 of NetEpi Case Manager

rom anyone willing to do further work on the documentation (using OpenOffice2), and from anyone willing to write additional Selenium test scripts, either in the Selenese scripting language or in Python via the Selenium "driven" mode (or more Python unit tests, for that matter). Tim Chu

Re: Python interest group software

Skip Montanaro wrote: > David> Is there already any software out there to manage a Python > David> Interest Group? Something that can register users, take RSVPs for > David> meetings, etc. > > I suspect a fair number take advantage of meetup.com. And a fair number of people now suspec

Re: Python interest group software

David Stanek wrote: > Is there already any software out there to manage a Python Interest > Group? Something that can register users, take RSVPs for meetings, > etc. I dare say that Roundup - http://roundup.sourceforge.net/ - (not to be confused with Roundup - http://www.roundup.com/ ) - could be

Re: How do you drive-by-wire a car using Python ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello everybody, > > Our entry in the DARPA Grand Challenge race uses Python as a > programming language. For those of you who are interested, we are > beginning to put some of our code on our blog. Here is a shot of a Pythonic DARPA Grand Challenge autonomous vehicle p

Re: DIY Spam Filter in Python

Peter Ballard wrote: > I've no idea if this will be of any use to anyone. But since I've gone > to the effort of writing it, I might as well make it publicly > available... > > Until last year, spam filtering was a source of frustration for me. > Freeware packages I tried (specifically, spamassass

Re: character-filtering and Word (& company)

Charles Hartman wrote: > I'm working on text-handling programs that want plain-text files as > input. It's fine to tell users to feed the programs with plain-text > only, but not all users know what this means, even after you explain it, > or they forget. So it would be nice to be able to handle gr

Re: intrusive posts

Charles Hartman wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2005, at 7:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>7. (",) Do You Want To Know For Sure You Are Going To Heaven? > > > Is there no way of filtering this recurring offensive material from the > list? Yes: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ Works a treat. T

Python limericks (was Re: Text-to-speech)

Steve Holden wrote: > Tim Churches wrote: >> There once was a language called Python... >> >> (which is pretty close to having three anapaestic left feet) >> >> or more promisingly, rhyme-wise, but metrically rather worse : >> >> There once was a

Re: Text-to-speech

Charles Hartman wrote: > Does anyone know of a cross-platform (OSX and Windows at least) library > for text-to-speech? I know there's an OSX API, and probably also for > Windows. I know PyTTS exists, but it seems to talk only to the Windows > engine. I'd like to write a single Python module to han

Re: Jigsaw solver

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Churches wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ObPuzzle: how did I "damage" the image? You created a mirror image. Damn. Too easy. There is another explanation for the rapidity with which your brain teaser was solved, but modesty preven

Re: Jigsaw solver

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This can be interesting: http://science.slashdot.org/science/05/03/01/2340238.shtml Bearophile Hey, that DataGlyph demo works pretty neat. ... Of course, being an old System Test Engineer whose job it was to figure out how to break softwa

Re: Fuzzy matching of postal addresses

McBooCzech wrote: Sorry for my "Ferbl typo". No offense was caused, I was just joking. For the local anti-smoking campaign As a public health epidemiologist, that's the sort of application of our project I like to see! And judging by the reports by Martin Mcgee and colleagues at the European

Re: Fuzzy matching of postal addresses

McBooCzech wrote: Tim, do you think Ferbel can parse properly with non English data-sets? The official name for the project is "Febrl" (freely-extensible biomedical record linkage) but perhaps "Furball" would be better name, given its focus on fuzziness (if that is not a contradiction in terms).

Re: SHA1 broken

Paul Rubin wrote: > > FYI. > >From : > > The research team of Xiaoyun Wang, Yiqun Lisa Yin, and Hongbo Yu > (mostly from Shandong University in China) have been quietly > circulating a paper ann

Re: Re: Big development in the GUI realm

Courageous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >It should also be pointed out that the FSF's interpretation of the GPL > >with respect to Qt means absolutely zero. > > Indeed. It would be the court that would have to decide what the > language of the GPL means, given the substantial body of case >

Re: Big development in the GUI realm

Fredrik Lundh wrote: Tim Churches wrote: except that if *you* set things up so the code is combined when run, *you* are copying, distributing, and/or modifying the program in order to mix, include and/or combine your work with the GPL:ed work. if you leave all that to the user, you're

Re: Big development in the GUI realm

Fredrik Lundh wrote: Tim Churches wrote: and how exactly are you going to load a DLL from an EXE file with- out "mixing, including, or combining" the two? You can't, but as long as that "mixing, including, or combining" only occurs at runtime, the GPL itself

Re: Re: Big development in the GUI realm

Luke Skywalker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:24:35 +1100, Tim Churches > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >: NOTE! This copyright does *not* cover user programs that use kernel > >: services by normal system calls - this is merely considered

Re: Re: Big development in the GUI realm

Luke Skywalker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:47:30 -0800, Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >Now, that's not to say that they are correct in their interpretation > of > >the GPL's terms. In fact, if I had to bet on an outcome, I'd probably > >wager that the cour

Re: Re: Big development in the GUI realm

Luke Skywalker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 10:47:25 +1100, Tim Churches > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >So there you have it: there must be some portion of the GPLed Program > contained in > >the other work for it to fall under the sc

Re: Re: Big development in the GUI realm

Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tim Churches wrote: > > > Thus, it seems to me, and to the expert legal advice which we sought > (note the scope of the advice > > was Australian law only) that provided no GLPed source or object code > is mixed, i

Re: Big development in the GUI realm

Fredrik Lundh wrote: Luke Skywalker wrote: Considering the fact that the Qt DLL exist by themselves, that the version used is the one provided by Qt, and that the EXE uses a standard, open way to communicate with it, the above does seem to say this use would be valid. http://www.gnu.org/

Re: [Fwd: [gnu.org #220719] Re: python and gpl]

Tim Churches wrote: > Can't get much clearer than that. Whoops! Sorry about all the embedded HTML links, making it most unclear. Here is the relevant Australian law in a clearer form: COPYRIGHT ACT 1968 (as amended by the Copyright Amendment Act 2000) - SECT 47B *Reproduc

Re: [Fwd: [gnu.org #220719] Re: python and gpl]

Richard Brodie wrote: "Tim Churches" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) In Australia and Europe at least, loading program code from disc into memory in order to execute it is not considered as making an infringing copy under copyright law. I don

Re: [Fwd: [gnu.org #220719] Re: python and gpl]

Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the absence of other information I Cc'd [EMAIL PROTECTED] to ask their > opinion about the relationship between GPL'd Python modules and > programs that imported them ... > > If a Python program imports a module licensed under the GPL, in your > >

Re: Re: python and gpl

Paul Rubin <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tim Churches <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >The question is: does shipping a backend which imports a module that > > > links with GPL code make some or all of the library GPL. > > We sought formal leg

Re: python and gpl

John Hunter wrote: I have a question about what it takes to trigger GPL restrictions in python code which conditionally uses a GPL library. Here is the context of my question. matplotlib, which I develop, is a plotting module which is distributed under a PSF compatible license, and hence we avoid

Re: Re: Fuzzy matching of postal addresses

Andrew McLean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for all the suggestions. There were some really useful pointers. > > A few random points: > > 1. Spending money is not an option, this is a 'volunteer' project. I'll > try out some of the ideas over the weekend. > ... > I am tempted to try an

Re: Fuzzy matching of postal addresses

Andrew McLean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a problem that is suspect isn't unusual and I'm looking to > see if there is any code available to help. I've Googled without success. > > Basically, I have two databases containing lists of postal addresses and > need to look for matching addres

Re: hash patent by AltNet; Python is prior art?

GerritM wrote: ZDnet features an article about the had patent at AltNet http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5534087.html . Apparantly this issue plays already for some time, now the p2p companies are threatened, becuase they use hashing to recognize files. I find it incredibly annoying when journali

Re: Re: Python.org, Website of Satan

TimC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Writing code that has to be indented *exactly* or it just won't > work. I bet they all use eVIl VI too. > > -- > TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/ Hey, two (real, actual) TimCs from the same country posting to the same list on the same st

Re: Python.org, Website of Satan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > python.org = 194.109.137.226 > > 194 + 109 + 137 + 226 = 666 > > What is this website with such a demonic name and IP address? What > evils are the programmers who use this language up to? More evidence of Beelzebub at work: GUIDO VAN ROSSUM is an anagram of SAVIO

Python and Tsunami Warning Systems

Boc Cringely's column on the need for a grassroots (seaweed roots?) tsunami warning system for the Indian Ocean (and elsewhere) makes some very good points - see http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20041230.html In his following column ( http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050107.h

Re: Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Jan 9)

Josiah Carlson wrote: QOTW: Jim Fulton: "[What's] duck typing?" Andrew Koenig: "That's the Australian pronunciation of 'duct taping'." I must protest. 1) No (true-blue) Australian has every uttered the words 'duct taping', because Aussies (and Pommies) know that the universe is held together wit

Re: How can engineers not understand source-code control?

Cameron Laird wrote: I've seen the infatuation for Excel (and so on) for years, but never found it at all tempting myself. I mostly just ignore the issue--no, actually, I guess I give them Excel, but show at the same time that they really want the alternative views that I also provide. See http://

Re: Frameworks for "Non-Content Oriented Web Apps"

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, There are great Python Web Application Framework. But most of them are meant for content oriented web apps. Is there something that can ease the development of application that are not content oriented(I call them "NON CONTENT-ORIENTED WEB APPLICATIONS" because I don't

ANN: NetEpi (pre-alpha) - tools for epidemiology and public health

Pre-alpha versions of several Pythonic tools for epidemiology and public health practice are now available under a slightly modified version of the Mozilla Public License - see http://www.netepi.org for further details. Some screenshots and copies of README files and end-user documentation are

Re: Koolaid (was Re: Optional Static Typing)

Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > John Roth wrote: > > "Rocco Moretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The question is, should Guido state "TDD is the one true way to > >> program in Python.", or should concessions be made in the language > >> design for those who don't "drink the TDD