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Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

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Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > (As they say: I'll believe that corporations are people when Texas > executes one.) If proper excuse you can trump any, You may wind up a Limited Company You cannot conveniently blow it up! -- WS Gilbert, "Utopia, Ltd" But not every "is-a

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

Who could have predicted that a request for suggesting books on OOP can come so far! On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:31 PM, lipska the kat wrote: > On 08/08/12 17:42, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > >> On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 10:51:45 +0100, lipska the kat >> declaimed the following in >> gmane.comp.python.ge

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 08/08/12 17:42, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 10:51:45 +0100, lipska the kat declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: The point I'm obviously struggling to make is that words convey concepts The word Person conveys a whole lifetime of experience of People and a

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 09:27:40 -0700, rusi wrote: > I once sat for a presentation of a wannabe university teacher. The > subject she chose was object-orientation. > > She spent some time on the usual dope about employee, manager etc. > Finally she reached the base-class: Person. > > Or so we thoug

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Aug 8, 2:51 pm, lipska the kat wrote: > The point I'm obviously struggling to make is that words convey concepts > The word Person conveys a whole lifetime of experience of People and as > imperfect human beings many of us are unable to tease out 'bits of being > a person' that are relevant to

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 07/08/12 22:57, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:00 AM, lipska the kat wrote: I'm still undecided over the whole 'User' thing actually, [snip] This makes little sense to my mind. If you can have a "class User:", why can you not have a "class Person:" ? User and Person are

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Aug 8, 12:14 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > You claim that named Patterns simplify and clarify communication. If you > have to look the terms up, they aren't simplifying and clarifying > communication, they are obfuscating it. By that argument, an encyclopaedia is useless because if you have to

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > NoneType raises an error if you try to create a second instance. bool > just returns one of the two singletons (doubletons?) again. > > py> type(None)() > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > TypeError: cannot creat

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 17:07:59 -0700, alex23 wrote: >> I'm pretty sure that people could talk about good coding design before >> the Gof4. As you say, they didn't invent the patterns. So people >> obviously wrote code, and talked about algorithms, without the Gof4 >> terminology. > > So what did pe

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Aug 8, 5:02 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I haven't read the Gang of Four book itself, but I've spent plenty of > time being perplexed by over-engineered, jargon-filled code, articles, > posts and discussions by people who use Design Patterns as an end to > themselves rather than a means to an e

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 8/7/2012 3:02 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:44:31 -0700, alex23 wrote: I think you've entirely missed the point of Design Patterns. Perhaps I have. Or perhaps I'm just (over-)reacting to the abuse of Patterns: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DesignPatternsConsideredHarmful or

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:00 AM, lipska the kat wrote: > I'm still undecided over the whole 'User' thing actually, I don't think I > can see a time when I will have a User Class in one of my systems but as I > don't want to get 'dogmatic' about this I remain open to any ideas that > might include s

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:44:31 -0700, alex23 wrote: > I think you've entirely missed the point of Design Patterns. Perhaps I have. Or perhaps I'm just (over-)reacting to the abuse of Patterns: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DesignPatternsConsideredHarmful or maybe I'm just not convinced that Design Patt

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 07/08/12 16:04, rusi wrote: On Aug 7, 7:34 pm, lipska the kat wrote: Never thought so for a moment, good to know you can be reasonable as well as misguided ;-) Well Lipska I must say that I find something resonant about the 'no- person' thing, though I am not sure what. You also said som

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Aug 7, 7:34 pm, lipska the kat wrote: > > Never thought so for a moment, good to know you can be reasonable as > well as misguided ;-) Well Lipska I must say that I find something resonant about the 'no- person' thing, though I am not sure what. You also said something about 'user' being more

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 07/08/12 15:14, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 10:19:31 +0100, lipska the kat wrote: On 07/08/12 06:19, Steven D'Aprano wrote: [...] But what *really* gets me is not the existence of poor terminology. I couldn't care less what terminology Java programmers use among themselves.

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 10:19:31 +0100, lipska the kat wrote: > On 07/08/12 06:19, Steven D'Aprano wrote: [...] >> But what *really* gets me is not the existence of poor terminology. I >> couldn't care less what terminology Java programmers use among >> themselves. > > I'd be most grateful if you cou

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 07/08/12 14:12, Ben Finney wrote: lipska the kat writes: The ONLY concept that you should never try to encapsulate is/are human beings or their aliases. You stated this in absolute, dogmatic terms. I thought at first you were being hyperbolic for effect, but the situation that you present

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

lipska the kat writes: > The ONLY concept that you should never try to encapsulate is/are > human beings or their aliases. You stated this in absolute, dogmatic terms. I thought at first you were being hyperbolic for effect, but the situation that you present to support this dogma is o

Re: OT probably but still relevant (was Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python)

On 07/08/12 10:44, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:23:19 +0100, lipska the kat wrote: On 06/08/12 13:19, rusi wrote: I suggest this http://steve-yegge.blogspot.in/2006/03/execution-in-kingdom-of- nouns.html http://bpfurtado.livejournal.com/2006/10/21/ Unfortunately the aut

Re: OT probably but still relevant (was Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python)

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:23:19 +0100, lipska the kat wrote: > On 06/08/12 13:19, rusi wrote: >> I suggest this >> http://steve-yegge.blogspot.in/2006/03/execution-in-kingdom-of- nouns.html > > http://bpfurtado.livejournal.com/2006/10/21/ Unfortunately the author (Bruno Furtado) has missed the poi

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 07/08/12 06:19, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 09:55:24 +0100, lipska the kat wrote: On 06/08/12 01:22, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:46:23 +0100, lipska the kat wrote: [snip] The clue is in the name 'Object Oriented' ... anything else is (or should be) imp

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 07/08/12 06:35, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 10:24:10 +0100, lipska the kat wrote: er, the point I was trying to make is that when you say 'interface' it could mean so many things. If you say 'facade' everyone knows exactly what you are talking about. And that is EXACTLY the po

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 07/08/2012 02:12, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:17:33 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: Please see my comment at the bottom hint hint :) Please trim unnecessary quoted text. We don't need to see the entire thread of comment/reply/reply-to-reply duplicated in *every* email. P

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 10:24:10 +0100, lipska the kat wrote: > er, the point I was trying to make is that when you say 'interface' it > could mean so many things. If you say 'facade' everyone knows exactly > what you are talking about. And that is EXACTLY the point. The whole point of design pattern

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 09:55:24 +0100, lipska the kat wrote: > On 06/08/12 01:22, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:46:23 +0100, lipska the kat wrote: >> >>> >>> Object Oriented programming is a mindset, a way of looking at that >>> particular part of our world that you are trying to

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

Steven D'Aprano writes: > Please trim unnecessary quoted text. > > We don't need to see the entire thread of comment/reply/reply-to-reply > duplicated in *every* email. s/every/any/ -- \ “If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; | `\ but if you really make th

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:17:33 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote: > Please see my comment at the bottom hint hint :) Please trim unnecessary quoted text. We don't need to see the entire thread of comment/reply/reply-to-reply duplicated in *every* email. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/l

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:34 AM, rusi wrote: > BTW in "automatic garbage collection" which of the three words is most > important? Least? Most important is "garbage". I sure don't want any language I use to automatically collect non-garbage!! But in seriousness, the definition of "garbage" is one

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Aug 6, 7:27 pm, lipska the kat wrote: > You take out the garbage. > I've got automatic garbage collection :-) BTW in "automatic garbage collection" which of the three words is most important? Least? Heres another take on nouns (and therefore OO): http://hilgart.org/enformy/dma-verb.htm --

OT probably but still relevant (was Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python)

On 06/08/12 13:19, rusi wrote: On Aug 6, 12:46 am, lipska the kat wrote: On 04/08/12 16:49, Jean Dubois wrote: I'm looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python. snip I suggest this http://steve-yegge.blogspot.in/2006/03/execution-in-kingdom-of-nouns

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

Please see my comment at the bottom hint hint :) On 06/08/2012 16:38, Ramchandra Apte wrote: Its a docstring - it documents the function/class Did you know that docstrings can be used for testing - look at the doctest standard library module! try: class A: def method(self): '''Sam

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

Its a docstring - it documents the function/class Did you know that docstrings can be used for testing - look at the doctest standard library module! try: class A: def method(self): '''Sample method This method does the difficult task X. Call this method with no arguments.'''#docstring

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 5 aug, 20:28, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 05/08/2012 19:04, Jean Dubois wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 aug, 02:11, shearich...@gmail.com wrote: > >> One reason you may be having difficulty is that unlike some languages > >> (C++/Java) object-orientation is not a be all and end all in Python,

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 06/08/12 13:19, rusi wrote: On Aug 6, 12:46 am, lipska the kat wrote: On 04/08/12 16:49, Jean Dubois wrote: I'm looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python. Object Oriented programming is a mindset, a way of looking at that particular part of our

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

In article , lipska the kat wrote: > UML works, non technical 'stakeholders' (yuk) can understand it at a > high level and in my HUMBLE opinion the sequence diagram is the single > most important piece of documentation in the entire software project Yup. Sequence diagrams are the most common

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Aug 6, 12:46 am, lipska the kat wrote: > On 04/08/12 16:49, Jean Dubois wrote: > > > I'm looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming > > with Python. > > Object Oriented programming is a mindset, a way of looking at that > particular part of

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 06/08/12 09:55, lipska the kat wrote: On 06/08/12 01:22, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:46:23 +0100, lipska the kat wrote: snip Well as you seem to be so concerned with terminology I'd have to disagree with you here. An interface (in computing) has any number of meanings

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 06/08/12 02:27, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:12:35 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: Good lord. I'd rather read C++ than UML. And I can't read C++. UML is under-rated. I certainly don't have any love of the 47 different flavors of diagram, but the basic idea of having a common gra

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 06/08/12 01:22, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:46:23 +0100, lipska the kat wrote: Object Oriented programming is a mindset, a way of looking at that particular part of our world that you are trying to encapsulate in computer language. The language you use is (should be) irrel

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 06/08/12 01:27, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:12:35 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: Good lord. I'd rather read C++ than UML. And I can't read C++. UML is under-rated. I certainly don't have any love of the 47 different flavors of diagram, but the basic idea of having a common gra

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 05/08/12 23:51, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 18:45:47 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: Don't look for Object-Oriented Programming -- since the first widely popular OOP language was C++ (Smalltalk was earlier, but rather specialized, whereas C++ started as a preprocessor for C).

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

Steven D'Aprano writes: >> I suspect), but can't say that I've ever used a "factory function"... > If you've ever used an ordinary function decorator, you almost certainly > have. > If you've every created a closure, you definitely have. Or anything with a __iter__ method... -- http://mail.pyth

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

Dennis Lee Bieber : > Don't look for Object-Oriented Programming -- since the first widely >popular OOP language was C++ (Smalltalk was earlier, but rather >specialized, whereas C++ started as a preprocessor for C). Well, C++ did to C what Simula 67 did to Algol 60, much earlier. Simula was

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 21:14:04 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > While I've probably used singletons (usually as sentinels in queues, I don't know your code, but if I were to take a wild guess, I would say that apart from None, and True/False, you probably haven't. NotImplemented and Ellipsis are

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Aug 6, 10:22 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > In my not-so-humble opinion, the popularity of Design Patterns has a lot > to do with the fact that they are so abstract and jargon-ridden that they > have become a badge of membership into an elite. Shorn of their excessive > abstractness, they're not

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 06/08/2012 01:22, Steven D'Aprano wrote: [snipped to death] In my not-so-humble opinion, the popularity of Design Patterns has a lot to do with the fact that they are so abstract and jargon-ridden that they have become a badge of membership into an elite. Shorn of their excessive abstractne

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 2012-08-06 at 00:27:43 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I frequently draw diagrams to understand the relationships between my > classes and the problem I am trying to solve. I almost invariably use one > type of box and one type of arrowhead. Sometimes if I'm bored I draw > doodles on the di

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 19:12:35 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: >> Good lord. I'd rather read C++ than UML. And I can't read C++. > > UML is under-rated. I certainly don't have any love of the 47 different > flavors of diagram, but the basic idea of having a common graphical > language for describing how

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

it dry and I read it when I can't > sleep, about 30 mins usually does it :-) It's called Design Patterns by > Gamma, Helm, Johnson and Vlissides ISBN 0-201-63361-2. > They do use C++ code in examples but as they say, this is just a > convenience and shouldn't colour your view o

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 06/08/2012 00:12, Roy Smith wrote: In article <501ef904$0$29867$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 18:45:47 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: Don't look for Object-Oriented Programming -- since the first widely popular OOP language was C++ (Sma

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

In article <501ef904$0$29867$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 18:45:47 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > > > Don't look for Object-Oriented Programming -- since the first widely > > popular OOP language was C++ (Smalltalk was earlier, but rather

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 18:45:47 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Don't look for Object-Oriented Programming -- since the first widely > popular OOP language was C++ (Smalltalk was earlier, but rather > specialized, whereas C++ started as a preprocessor for C). > > Rather look for Object-Oriented An

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 05/08/2012 20:46, lipska the kat wrote: > Design Patterns by Gamma, Helm, Johnson and Vlissides In article , Mark Lawrence wrote: > Please no, that's the worst possible book for someone trying to learn > OOD in Python. +1 what Mark said. It's certainly the classic patterns book, but most

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

les but as they say, this is just a convenience and shouldn't colour your view of the subject I still read the introduction and get something out of it after several years. You should be able to implement the patterns in Python although I must admit I haven't tried that yet Please no,

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 04/08/12 16:49, Jean Dubois wrote: I'm looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python. Object Oriented programming is a mindset, a way of looking at that particular part of our world that you are trying to encapsulate in computer language. The language yo

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

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Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 05/08/2012 19:43, Ifthikhan Nazeem wrote: [top posting fixed] On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 05/08/2012 19:04, Jean Dubois wrote: On 5 aug, 02:11, shearich...@gmail.com wrote: One reason you may be having difficulty is that unlike some languages (C++/Java) objec

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

I would recommend Bruce Eckel's Thining in Python. Check it out here http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIPython/ On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 05/08/2012 19:04, Jean Dubois wrote: > >> On 5 aug, 02:11, shearich...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> One reason you may be having diff

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

In article <8f1b60a5-0411-4aae-9ee6-0025b493c...@m13g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>, Jean Dubois wrote: > Can someone here on this list give a trivial example of what object > oriented programming is, using only Python? OOP seems to mean different things to different people. What OOP means to you

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 05/08/2012 19:04, Jean Dubois wrote: On 5 aug, 02:11, shearich...@gmail.com wrote: One reason you may be having difficulty is that unlike some languages (C++/Java) object-orientation is not a be all and end all in Python, in fact you could work with Python for a long time without really 'do

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 5 aug, 02:11, shearich...@gmail.com wrote: > One reason you may be having difficulty is that unlike some languages > (C++/Java) object-orientation is not a be all and end all in Python, in fact > you could work with Python for a long time without really 'doing it' at all > (well other than ca

Re: Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

On 5 aug, 02:11, shearich...@gmail.com wrote: > One reason you may be having difficulty is that unlike some languages > (C++/Java) object-orientation is not a be all and end all in Python, in fact > you could work with Python for a long time without really 'doing it' at all > (well other than ca

Re: [newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

One reason you may be having difficulty is that unlike some languages (C++/Java) object-orientation is not a be all and end all in Python, in fact you could work with Python for a long time without really 'doing it' at all (well other than calling methods/properties on existing API's). Having sa

[newbie] Looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python

I'm looking for a good introduction to object oriented programming with Python. I am looking for an introduction which only refers to Python. I have seen introductions where the authors make comparisons to other languages such as C++ and Java, but as I don't know these languages that do

Re: introduction and first question about multithreading

On 07/11/2012 03:51 AM, Vojtěch Polášek wrote: > Greetings, > My name is Vojta and I am blind student. I am slowly learning Python for > about 4 years and I like it alot, mostly its ability to run on various > platforms. > My primary system is Ubuntu 12.04, but I have Windows XP at hand. I am > usi

Re: introduction and first question about multithreading

In article , Vojt®ßch Pol®¢‰ek wrote: > Then the menu module kicks in and should launch its > own loop checking for pygame keyboard events, but right after doing it > it prints: > [xcb] Unknown sequence number while processing queue > [xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and X

introduction and first question about multithreading

Greetings, My name is Vojta and I am blind student. I am slowly learning Python for about 4 years and I like it alot, mostly its ability to run on various platforms. My primary system is Ubuntu 12.04, but I have Windows XP at hand. I am using python 2.7. I have learned basics from the book A byte o

May "Introduction to Python" class

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Re: Feedback wanted on programming introduction (Python in Windows)

* Rhodri James: On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:49:50 -, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Rhodri James: On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:20:20 -, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Rhodri James: This is a weird attribution style, by the way. I don't think it helps. That's a pretty weird thing to comment on.

Re: Feedback wanted on programming introduction (Python in Windows)

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:49:50 -, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Rhodri James: On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:20:20 -, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Rhodri James: This is a weird attribution style, by the way. I don't think it helps. That's a pretty weird thing to comment on. And as far as I

Re: Feedback wanted on programming introduction (Python in Windows)

Thad Smith writes: > Richard Heathfield wrote: > >> ... so I cheerfully installed it on the user's desktop machine >> (Windows ME, would you believe), and then set about configuring the >> reader, when... ouch! No PDF reader on the machine. Not even an >> ancient Adobe version. Oh dear. Program s

Re: Feedback wanted on programming introduction (Python in Windows)

Richard Heathfield wrote: ... so I cheerfully installed it on the user's desktop machine (Windows ME, would you believe), and then set about configuring the reader, when... ouch! No PDF reader on the machine. Not even an ancient Adobe version. Oh dear. Program suddenly rendered completely use

Re: Feedback wanted on programming introduction (Python in Windows)

* Rhodri James: On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:20:20 -, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Rhodri James: This is a weird attribution style, by the way. I don't think it helps. That's a pretty weird thing to comment on. And as far as I can see the comment doesn't make sense except as an attempt to f

Re: Feedback wanted on programming introduction (Python in Windows)

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:20:20 -, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Rhodri James: This is a weird attribution style, by the way. I don't think it helps. On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:26:45 -, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Rhodri James: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:53:05 -, Alf P. Steinbach wrot

Re: Feedback wanted on programming introduction (Python in Windows)

* Rhodri James: On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:26:45 -, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: * Rhodri James: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:53:05 -, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: with the best knowledge of the program's environment, is unable to handle (such as delete) files or folders with paths greater than some

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