Magnus Lycka wrote:
> What OS(es) do yo need to support?
My apps will mostly be run on Windows desktops, but there are some Linux
users.
> I'm curious about PyGTK on Windows. It seems to me that the GTK+
> Windows port is lagging behind a bit (no 2.8?), doesn't look or
> behave quite as native w
Paul McNett napisał(a):
>> I would use wx, if it wasn't so dog slow on linux. Qt and GTK are much
>> faster, but each one has disadvantages. Finally, you get 3 GUI toolkits,
>> of which each claims to be "cross-platform", but each is working at
>> acceptable level of WTF only on one system (wx on
Rod W wrote:
> I'm just starting out on Python but my primary goal is to provide
> applications with some user interface (GUI).
>
> Can someone point me to a good comparison of whether I should use
> wxPython (with wxGlade I assume) or PyGTK (with Glade I assume)?
What OS(es) do yo need to supp
Am Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:01:57 -0700 schrieb TPJ:
>> Beside this, wxPython (and wxWidgets) is often told to be more complete,
>> better documented and better supported than GTK/PyGTK.
>
> Is wxPython often told to be more documented? By who?
>
> Several months ago I wanted to choose a nice GUI for
Just a thought -- you might consider using a HTTP/browser UI. It's
graphically ugly, but it's familiar for users, and it goes
cross-platform very well.
Plus, if you decide to move the app to a Web server, you're already
done.
Ron
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Jarek Zgoda wrote:
> I would use wx, if it wasn't so dog slow on linux. Qt and GTK are much
> faster, but each one has disadvantages. Finally, you get 3 GUI toolkits,
> of which each claims to be "cross-platform", but each is working at
> acceptable level of WTF only on one system (wx on Windows,
TPJ napisał(a):
>>Beside this, wxPython (and wxWidgets) is often told to be more complete,
>>better documented and better supported than GTK/PyGTK.
>
> Is wxPython often told to be more documented? By who?
By me, for example. But I don't mind using wxWidgets C++ API
documentation as wxPython ref
On 9/13/05, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyway, there are some lighter-weight wrappers that make the
> API more Pythonic and hide the nasty stuff like the id and flag
> parameters. I tried "wax" a while back and it looked
> promising.
I looked at Wax, too, but as of last spring it
On 2005-09-13, Peter Decker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[regarding wxGTK vs wxPython]
> I looked at both, and preferred wxPython's look. I hated its
> C-like feeling, with some very un-Pythonic code that failed to
> hide its C roots very well, but I used it because the results
> were so good.
>
>
Peter Decker a écrit :
> On 9/13/05, Rod W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I'm just starting out on Python but my primary goal is to provide
>>applications with some user interface (GUI).
>>
>>Can someone point me to a good comparison of whether I should use
>>wxPython (with wxGlade I assume) or Py
On 9/13/05, Rod W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm just starting out on Python but my primary goal is to provide
> applications with some user interface (GUI).
>
> Can someone point me to a good comparison of whether I should use
> wxPython (with wxGlade I assume) or PyGTK (with Glade I assume)?
>
> Beside this, wxPython (and wxWidgets) is often told to be more complete,
> better documented and better supported than GTK/PyGTK.
Is wxPython often told to be more documented? By who?
Several months ago I wanted to choose a nice GUI for Python (Tkinter
was out of question). I choosed PyGTK for
> (I do not use/program/own any McOS system, so I cannot
> tell you anything about the Apple Platform).
WxPython _can_ give you a native Mac "look and feel", if you are
willing to take into account certain issues (such as e.g. menu bars not
tied to windows, no MDI, no multi-pane etc.). It is afa
Rod W wrote:
> I'm just starting out on Python but my primary goal is to provide
> applications with some user interface (GUI).
>
> Can someone point me to a good comparison of whether I should use
> wxPython (with wxGlade I assume) or PyGTK (with Glade I assume)?
>
> I'd prefer open source (not
I'm just starting out on Python but my primary goal is to provide
applications with some user interface (GUI).
Can someone point me to a good comparison of whether I should use
wxPython (with wxGlade I assume) or PyGTK (with Glade I assume)?
I'd prefer open source (not necessarily GPL though) t
I have encountered some problems with PyGTK only when I was trying to
install a PyGTK version that was different from the installed GTK+
version. When those both versions were the same, I had no problems at
all.
(Another problem with PyGTK is that it's installation is somewhat more
complicated tha
I haven't used PyGTK very much, so I can't comment on it. My last
impression of GTK-on-Windows was that it wasn't very stable and didn't
blend well with the Windows native look and feel, but that was a while
ago and it has probably improved a great deal since then.
I use wxPython, doing my develo
Hi!
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 22:16:01 +0200 Torsten Bronger wrote:
> I'm very suprised. wxPython is still that buggy? I read reports
> from 2000 about such observations, but they tried wxPython in a
> non-standard way, and the project has had 5 years to become more
> stable after all.
Well, I don'
Torsten Bronger wrote:
> Marek Kubica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>I have started GUIs in Python with wx, but after a short time I
>>was annoyed how many things were buggy. I don't know why, but I
>>fell from one bug to the other while programming one application.
>
> I'm very suprised. wxPython
TPJ napisał(a):
>>PyQt works equally well on both systems.
>
> I believe you. The problem is I don't like GPL.
So, buy commercial license for Qt and PyQt.
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Torsten Bronger wrote:
> As far as i know, there is nothing official. But I've read several
> times that it's the most likely candidate for a seconds GUI system
> for being included.
I think you're reading *way* too much into people engaging in wishful
thinking.
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Hallöchen!
Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Torsten Bronger wrote:
>
>> Besides, wxPython prepares for being included into the standard
>> distribution.
>
> wow, i've never heard this said so explicitly. is there a
> reference link backing up this statement? i really really hope
> this is tr
I've had miserable experiences trying to use WxPython or GTK under
both RH9 and Fedora Core 3. There is some version skew between the
installed versions of GTK and the WxWidgets on the distro site. I
made some progress by installing an old version of GTK but there was
still some problem. I decid
Yes, it's not that hard to get the native file dialogs, as described in
the FAQ:
http://www.async.com.br/faq/pygtk/index.py?req=show&file=faq21.013.htp
It would be nice if PyGTK had a knob for making it use win32 dialogs by
default, though.
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On 2005-07-24, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is PyGTK more Pythonic by the way?
I find it more Pythonic than "raw" wxpython. However, the API still has the
fingerprints of C programmers all over it. Compare the gtk's clunky
treemodel/treeview API to Cocoa's elegant delegates.
On 7/24/05, Torsten Bronger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is PyGTK more Pythonic by the way? I had a look at wxPython
> yesterday and didn't like that it has been brought into the Python
> world nearly unchanged. You can see its non-Python origin clearly.
> How does PyGTK feel in this respect?
T
Torsten Bronger wrote:
>
> Besides, wxPython prepares for being included
> into the standard distribution.
>
wow, i've never heard this said so explicitly. is there a reference link
backing up this statement? i really really hope this is true. i'm very much
in
favor to see wx included in t
Hallöchen!
Marek Kubica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [...]
>
> I have started GUIs in Python with wx, but after a short time I
> was annoyed how many things were buggy. I don't know why, but I
> fell from one bug to the other while programming one application.
I'm very suprised. wxPython is st
Hi!
Am Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:47:30 +0200 schrieb Torsten Bronger:
> Is PyGTK more Pythonic by the way? I had a look at wxPython
> yesterday and didn't like that it has been brought into the Python
> world nearly unchanged. You can see its non-Python origin clearly.
> How does PyGTK feel in this r
Hallöchen!
Marek Kubica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello!
>
>> AFAIK PyGTK doesn't look native on Win as well, but I don't care.
>
> [...] The native look and feel is not as good as the look and feel
> of wx but still really _much_ better than older versions of GTK.
Is PyGTK more Pythonic by
Hello!
> AFAIK PyGTK doesn't look native on Win as well, but I don't care.
It does have a nearly-native look and feel:
http://gtk-wimp.sourceforge.net/screenshots/
And yes, the theme adjusts itself to Windows XP themes, so GTK+ apps look
nearly like any other Windows Program. The native look and f
Thanks a lot!
Now I know I can choose PyGTK. I really like it because of its rich
documentation.
> You could also bundle the runtime DLLs with your py2exe'd application
That's great. I think my clients will appreciate a single one
executable.
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> PyQt works equally well on both systems.
I believe you. The problem is I don't like GPL.
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> I've used pygtk with success on windows. (...)
> > [will] I be able to make an executable (using Py2Exe) of an application
> > that uses PyGTK?
>
> Yes.
So PyGTK is now my favourite. Better documentation, runs on Linux and
Windows, the possibility to make an executable program with Py2Exe.
It's
Hello!
> How well does PyGTK run on Windows (98, 2K, XP)? How stable is it? Will
> I be able to make an executable (using Py2Exe) of an application that
> uses PyGTK?
I _do_ like PyGTK on Windows. It works without problems.
You can find a ready to use py2exe script on
http://www.pythonwiki.de/PyG
One thing I don't like with GTK+ on Windows is that it uses GTK+
file dialogs rather than system file dialogs. wxWidgets uses file
dialogs that appear very similar to the system dialogs. Depends on your
customers but I don't think this is reasonable for most applications.
http://www.scintill
TPJ napisał(a):
> In the nearest future I will have to decide what to use: PyGTK or
> wxPython. I like those both APIs. wxPython has more widgets, but PyGTK
> seems to be faster. I can use them both for free (it's very important).
> My only concern is that although I'm doin
On 2005-07-22, TPJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 7. "(...) The pygtk (and gtk port in general) does not yet support
> threading on windows. (...) GTK 2.0 is supposed to fix it but support
> isn't available *yet*. (...)" May 17 2002
Pretty sure this hasn't been the case for a long time. The curren
is a better choice if you are writing for
> Linux and want your application to also be able to run on windows.
> (...)" Apr 25
>
> 11. "(...) I'm using wxPython because GTK for windows wasn't ready
> three years ago when I initially had to write my first Windows
&
TPJ enlightened us with:
> I'd like to choose PyGTK (because of its rich documentation), but
> I'm not sure if PyGTK is stable on Windows... For now I know that
> wxPython runs well on Windows.
Don't forget that wxPython looks like Mac on a Mac. That's important
too :)
Sybren
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#x27;m using wxPython because GTK for windows wasn't ready
three years ago when I initially had to write my first Windows
application. If I evaluated both of them again today, I might choose
GTK, and I might not." Apr 27
In the nearest future I will have to decide what to use: PyGTK or
.
However, this widget depends on Tkinter, whose look I find oldy, though
I would like to try PyGtk or wxPython.
I would like to know if there is a method for using a Tkinter widget
inside a PyGtk or wxPython interface.
I have already seeked some information about this:
- in the same window: this seems
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