Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-21 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Jorgen Grahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OP: keep in mind that your users do not see any gain from you using > 2.5. All they see is something that makes your software harder to > install. At some point you can dismiss them as living in the Stone Age, > but the

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-21 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:49:25 -0700 (PDT), George Sakkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 18, 2:08 pm, Joseph Turian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> How widely adopted is python 2.5? >> >> We are doing some development, and have a choice to make: >> a) Use all the 2.5 features we want. >> b) Maint

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-21 Thread castironpi
On Apr 21, 12:59 pm, Lou Pecora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Apr 21, 9:28 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: > > > > Why is this newsgroup different from all other newsgroups?   > > > Different is a verbally atomic relation. > >

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-21 Thread Lou Pecora
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Apr 21, 9:28 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: > > > > > > Why is this newsgroup different from all other newsgroups?   > > Different is a verbally atomic relation. It's a Passover question. -- -- Lou Pecora -- http://mail.py

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-21 Thread castironpi
On Apr 21, 9:28 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Joseph Turian  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >Basically, we're planning on releasing it as open-source, and don't > >want to alienate a large percentage of potential users. > > Datapoint: my company still u

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-21 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joseph Turian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Basically, we're planning on releasing it as open-source, and don't >want to alienate a large percentage of potential users. Datapoint: my company still uses 2.3 and *might* upgrade to 2.4 and later this year. Basically,

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-20 Thread Lie
On Apr 19, 1:08 am, Joseph Turian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How widely adopted is python 2.5? > > We are doing some development, and have a choice to make: > a) Use all the 2.5 features we want. > b) Maintain backwards compatability with 2.4. > There is another choice: Develop with future in mi

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-19 Thread Ray Cote
At 12:16 PM -0700 4/18/08, Joseph Turian wrote: >Basically, we're planning on releasing it as open-source, and don't >want to alienate a large percentage of potential users. >-- >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list A few seconds after reading this, I read the announcement for pyspr

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-19 Thread Donald 'Paddy' McCarthy
Joseph Turian wrote: > Basically, we're planning on releasing it as open-source, and don't > want to alienate a large percentage of potential users. Then develop for 2.5 with an eye on what is to come this year in 2.6 with regard to already planned deprecations. - Paddy. -- http://mail.python.o

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-19 Thread castironpi
On Apr 18, 2:16 pm, Joseph Turian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Basically, we're planning on releasing it as open-source, and don't > want to alienate a large percentage of potential users. 99% is a big percent. My 1% doesn't like something. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-19 Thread Graham Breed
On Apr 19, 3:16 am, Joseph Turian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Basically, we're planning on releasing it as open-source, and don't > want to alienate a large percentage of potential users. How about Java users? Jython was recently at 2.2 (still is for all I know). I'm pleased they've got that fa

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-19 Thread Carl Banks
On Apr 18, 2:08 pm, Joseph Turian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How widely adopted is python 2.5? > > We are doing some development, and have a choice to make: > a) Use all the 2.5 features we want. > b) Maintain backwards compatability with 2.4. > > So I guess the question is, does anyone have a se

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-18 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thomas Bellman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > For what it's worth, Fedora 8 has Python 2.5, RHEL 5 ships with > > Python 2.4, and RHEL 4 has Python 2.3. Suse and Debian, I don't > > know. > > The current Debian "stable" branch (4.0r3, "etch", released

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-18 Thread Ben Finney
Thomas Bellman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For what it's worth, Fedora 8 has Python 2.5, RHEL 5 ships with > Python 2.4, and RHEL 4 has Python 2.3. Suse and Debian, I don't > know. The current Debian "stable" branch (4.0r3, "etch", released 2008-02-17) has the 'python' package installing Python

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-18 Thread Ben Finney
Joseph Turian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How widely adopted is python 2.5? Impossible to answer in general, because there's no way of finding out. > So I guess the question is, does anyone have a sense of what percent > of python users don't have 2.5? You might be able to get a more useful a

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-18 Thread Gabriel Ibanez
Debian Etch (stable) has Python 2.4 - Original Message - From: "Thomas Bellman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: comp.lang.python To: Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 8:50 PM Subject: Re: Python 2.5 adoption > John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-18 Thread Thomas Bellman
John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Desktop or server? > If server, check what the major Linux distros, like Fedora > Core, are shipping with. For server, you should probably rather look at distros like RHEL/CentOS, Suse and Debian Stable. For what it's worth, Fedora 8 has Python 2

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-18 Thread George Sakkis
On Apr 18, 2:08 pm, Joseph Turian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How widely adopted is python 2.5? > > We are doing some development, and have a choice to make: > a) Use all the 2.5 features we want. > b) Maintain backwards compatability with 2.4. > > So I guess the question is, does anyone have a se

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-18 Thread Joseph Turian
Basically, we're planning on releasing it as open-source, and don't want to alienate a large percentage of potential users. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-18 Thread John Nagle
Joseph Turian wrote: > How widely adopted is python 2.5? > > We are doing some development, and have a choice to make: > a) Use all the 2.5 features we want. > b) Maintain backwards compatability with 2.4. > > So I guess the question is, does anyone have a sense of what percent > of python users

Re: Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-18 Thread Mike Driscoll
On Apr 18, 1:08 pm, Joseph Turian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How widely adopted is python 2.5? > > We are doing some development, and have a choice to make: > a) Use all the 2.5 features we want. > b) Maintain backwards compatability with 2.4. > > So I guess the question is, does anyone have a se

Python 2.5 adoption

2008-04-18 Thread Joseph Turian
How widely adopted is python 2.5? We are doing some development, and have a choice to make: a) Use all the 2.5 features we want. b) Maintain backwards compatability with 2.4. So I guess the question is, does anyone have a sense of what percent of python users don't have 2.5? Thanks, Joseph --