Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-10 Thread memilanuk
On 08/07/2015 04:29 AM, tjohnson wrote: On 8/6/2015 7:31 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: What 1 or 2 features would you most like to see? Practically, I'd say a line number margin and right edge indicator. Theoretically, a tabbed editor and dockable interpreter pane. YES!!! and yes to the above.

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-10 Thread tjohnson
On 8/6/2015 7:31 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/6/2015 11:35 AM, Timothy Johnson wrote: problems because it works well for that. Most of the time I use PyDev and Notepad++ to edit Python code, but if more features were added to Idle I would consider using it more. What 1 or 2 features would you

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-10 Thread tjohnson
On 8/7/2015 9:10 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/7/2015 7:29 AM, tjohnson wrote: On 8/6/2015 7:31 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/6/2015 11:35 AM, Timothy Johnson wrote: problems because it works well for that. Most of the time I use PyDev and Notepad++ to edit Python code, but if more features were

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-09 Thread Laurent Pointal
random...@fastmail.us wrote: On Sat, Aug 8, 2015, at 13:59, Laurent Pointal wrote: Level? Graduate (post-Bac in france) Yours or your students? My students. 1. Are you grade school (1=12)? (sorry, I dont know correspondance in france) Grade 12 refers to 17-18 year old

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-08 Thread Laurent Pointal
Terry Reedy wrote: There have been discussions, such as today on Idle-sig , about who uses Idle and who we should design it for. If you use Idle in any way, or know of or teach classes using Idle, please answer as many of the questions below as you are willing, and as are appropriate I

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-08 Thread random832
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015, at 13:59, Laurent Pointal wrote: Level? Graduate (post-Bac in france) Yours or your students? 1. Are you grade school (1=12)? (sorry, I dont know correspondance in france) Grade 12 refers to 17-18 year old students, each grade is one year. undergraduate

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-07 Thread Friedrich Rentsch
On 08/06/2015 03:21 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 6:36:56 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote: There have been discussions, such as today on Idle-sig , about who uses Idle and who we should design it for. If you use Idle in any way, or know of or teach classes using Idle,

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-07 Thread Timothy Johnson
On 8/5/2015 9:06 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: There have been discussions, such as today on Idle-sig , about who uses Idle and who we should design it for. If you use Idle in any way, or know of or teach classes using Idle, please answer as many of the questions below as you are willing, and as are

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-07 Thread tjohnson
On 8/6/2015 7:31 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/6/2015 11:35 AM, Timothy Johnson wrote: problems because it works well for that. Most of the time I use PyDev and Notepad++ to edit Python code, but if more features were added to Idle I would consider using it more. What 1 or 2 features would you

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-07 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/7/2015 7:29 AM, tjohnson wrote: On 8/6/2015 7:31 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/6/2015 11:35 AM, Timothy Johnson wrote: problems because it works well for that. Most of the time I use PyDev and Notepad++ to edit Python code, but if more features were added to Idle I would consider using it

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-07 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/6/2015 9:14 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 21:06:31 -0400, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu declaimed the following: There have been discussions, such as today on Idle-sig , about who uses Idle and who we should design it for. If you use Idle in any way, or know of or teach

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-07 Thread tjohnson
On 8/7/2015 9:10 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/7/2015 7:29 AM, tjohnson wrote: On 8/6/2015 7:31 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/6/2015 11:35 AM, Timothy Johnson wrote: problems because it works well for that. Most of the time I use PyDev and Notepad++ to edit Python code, but if more features were

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-07 Thread Paul Rubin
tjohnson tandrewjohn...@outlook.com writes: Currently the interpreter is shown in a separate floating window. If it was dockable, it could also be placed in the same window as the text editor but separated by a splitter. Dockable would be nice but the split window is ok with me. What I wish

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-07 Thread Akira Li
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu writes: There have been discussions, such as today on Idle-sig , about who uses Idle and who we should design it for. If you use Idle in any way, or know of or teach classes using Idle, please answer as many of the questions below as you are willing, and as are

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-07 Thread Larry Hudson via Python-list
On 08/05/2015 06:06 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: [snip] 0. Classes where Idle is used: Where? Level? None Idle users: 1. Are you grade school (1=12)? undergraduate (Freshman-Senior)? post-graduate (from whatever)? Some college, but didn't complete. Never had any CS or programming courses. 2.

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-07 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Akira Li 4kir4...@gmail.com wrote: then a workaround that works out of the box is to run: T:\ py -m idlelib -r print_unicode.py that can display Unicode (BMP) output in IDLE. But sadly, *only* the BMP. That's enough for most modern languages, but it's by no

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-06 Thread Nonami Animashaun
0. Classes where Idle is used: Where? Level? Mostly on windows, can't remember ever using Idle on a linux system before. Idle users: 1. Are you grade school (1=12)? undergraduate (Freshman-Senior)? post-graduate (from whatever)? Post-graduate 2. Are you beginner (1st class, maybe

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-06 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/6/2015 11:35 AM, Timothy Johnson wrote: problems because it works well for that. Most of the time I use PyDev and Notepad++ to edit Python code, but if more features were added to Idle I would consider using it more. What 1 or 2 features would you most like to see? -- Terry Jan Reedy

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-06 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/5/2015 9:21 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: I used idle to teach a 2nd year engineering course last sem It was a more pleasant experience than I expected One feature that would help teachers: It would be nice to (have setting to) auto-save the interaction window [Yeah I tried to see if I could do

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-06 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/5/2015 9:17 PM, Ben Finney wrote: Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu writes: Private answers are welcome. They will be deleted as soon as they are tallied (without names). Are you also expecting questionnaire answers in this forum? Either or both. I suspect it will become a free-ranging

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-06 Thread Laura Creighton
Added: right now most children I know who want to program want to write games that run on their cell phones and tablets. So Idle integration with kivy would be very nice, if Idle developers are looking for new directions. Laura -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-06 Thread Sibylle Koczian
Am 06.08.2015 um 03:06 schrieb Terry Reedy: There have been discussions, such as today on Idle-sig , about who uses Idle and who we should design it for. If you use Idle in any way, or know of or teach classes using Idle, please answer as many of the questions below as you are willing, and as

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-06 Thread Steve Hayes
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 21:06:31 -0400, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: There have been discussions, such as today on Idle-sig , about who uses Idle and who we should design it for. If you use Idle in any way, or know of or teach classes using Idle, please answer as many of the questions below

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-06 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 06/08/2015 02:06, Terry Reedy wrote: 0. Classes where Idle is used: Where? Level? N/A Idle users: 1. Are you grade school (1=12)? undergraduate (Freshman-Senior)? post-graduate (from whatever)? post-graduate 2. Are you beginner (1st class, maybe 2nd depending on intensity of

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-06 Thread Timothy Johnson
On 8/5/2015 9:06 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: There have been discussions, such as today on Idle-sig , about who uses Idle and who we should design it for. If you use Idle in any way, or know of or teach classes using Idle, please answer as many of the questions below as you are willing, and as are

Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-05 Thread Terry Reedy
There have been discussions, such as today on Idle-sig , about who uses Idle and who we should design it for. If you use Idle in any way, or know of or teach classes using Idle, please answer as many of the questions below as you are willing, and as are appropriate Private answers are

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-05 Thread Paul Rubin
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu writes: There have been discussions, such as today on Idle-sig , about who uses Idle and who we should design it for. I use it sometimes. I mostly use Emacs with Python-mode but find Idle is nice for quickly experimenting with something or probing an API. I know

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-05 Thread Paul Rubin
Paul Rubin no.email@nospam.invalid writes: I use it sometimes. I mostly use Emacs with Python-mode but find Idle is nice for quickly experimenting with something or probing an API. Added: I sometimes used Idle in places where Emacs isn't available, e.g. client machines running Windows. It's

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-05 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 05 Aug 2015 21:06:31 -0400, Terry Reedy writes: 0. Classes where Idle is used: Where -- my house or sometimes at the board game society Level -- beginners and there are 8 children right now. Idle users: 1. Are you I am post graduate, but the kids are all grade school. 2.

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-05 Thread Miki Tebeka
Greetings, 0. Classes where Idle is used: Where? At client site. Mostly big companies. Level? From beginner to advanced. Idle users: 1. Are you grade school (1=12)? undergraduate (Freshman-Senior)? post-graduate (from whatever)? post-graduate 2. Are you beginner (1st class, maybe 2nd

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-05 Thread Ben Finney
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu writes: Private answers are welcome. They will be deleted as soon as they are tallied (without names). Are you also expecting questionnaire answers in this forum? I suspect it will become a free-ranging discussion; hopefully you're prepared to pick through and

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-05 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: There have been discussions, such as today on Idle-sig , about who uses Idle and who we should design it for. If you use Idle in any way, or know of or teach classes using Idle, please answer as many of the questions below as

Re: Who uses IDLE -- please answer if you ever do, know, or teach

2015-08-05 Thread Rustom Mody
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 6:36:56 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote: There have been discussions, such as today on Idle-sig , about who uses Idle and who we should design it for. If you use Idle in any way, or know of or teach classes using Idle, please answer as many of the questions