On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 18:40:59 -0500, Roy Smith declaimed the
> following:
>
>>I'm reasonably sure you posted this as humor, but there is some truth in
>>what you said. In the crypto/security domain, you often want to keep a
>>key or clear
On Feb 3, 2014 3:26 PM, "Steven D'Aprano" <
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:04:35 -0800, Charlie Winn wrote:
>
> > excuse me but don't be so *** rude , i did run this program and it
> > did run correctly
>
> Charlie, you may have run *some* program, but i
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> Op 24-11-15 om 16:48 schreef Chris Angelico:
>> () is not a literal either.
>
> The byte code sure suggests it is.
>
> Take the following code:
>
> import dis
>
> def f():
> i = 42
> t = ()
> l = []
>
> dis.dis(f)
>
> That produces the
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> Op 24-11-15 om 17:56 schreef Ian Kelly:
>
>>
>>> So on what grounds would you argue that () is not a literal.
>>
>> This enumerates exactly what literals are in Python:
>>
>> https://docs
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Antoon Pardon
> wrote:
>> Op 24-11-15 om 17:56 schreef Ian Kelly:
>>
>>>
>>>> So on what grounds would you argue that () is not a literal.
>>>
>>
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> I think limiting literals to lexical tokens is too limited. Sure we
> can define them like that in the context of the python grammar, but
> I don't see why we should limit ourselves to such a definition outside
> that context.
>
> I see noth
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Random832 wrote:
> On 2015-11-24, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Probably the grammar. In other words, it's part of the language's very
>> definition.
>
> Then the definition is wrong. I think "literal" is a word whose meaning is
> generally agreed on, rather than some
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> Op 24-11-15 om 20:15 schreef Ian Kelly:
>
>>> But no matter what you want to call it. The dis module shows that
>>> -42 is treated in exactly the same way as 42, which is treated
>>> exactly the same wa
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> Then #3. I would have a common function/method for submitting a request to
> go to the subprocess, and have that method return an Event on which to wait.
> Then caller then just waits for the Event and collects the data. Obviously,
> the m
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 3:07 AM, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote:
> to get down to one intermediate list. Avoiding the last one is a bit tricky:
>
> metrics = (converter(x.metric(name)) for x in self._server_per_proc)
> metrics = (x for x in metrics if x is not None)
> try:
> # if there is
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 3:07 AM, Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote:
>>> elif name in METRICS_AVG:
>> # writing a function that calculates the average without
>> # materialisin
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM, BartC wrote:
>> We have no way of evaluating their power or simplicity,
>> since they are not available to us.
>
> I'll see if I can rustle up a comparison so that Python users can see what
> they're missing!
Unless you're going to make the actual languages avail
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> I don't know what you are talking about. The first thing I have argued
> is that () is a literal. Then I have expaned that to that something
> like (3, 5, 8) is a literal. I never argued that tuple expressions
> in general are literals. And
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> Op 25-11-15 om 21:39 schreef Ian Kelly:
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Antoon Pardon
>> wrote:
>>> I don't know what you are talking about. The first thing I have argued
>>> is that () is a lit
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Alan Bawden wrote:
>> (Note that nothing in the documentation I can find actually _guarantees_
>> that a Python implementation will only have one unique empty tuple, but
>> I wouldn't be suprised if the foll
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Random832 wrote:
> On 2015-11-25, Ben Finney wrote:
>> That is, the ‘2’ in ‘cartesian_point = (2, 3)’ means something different
>> than in ‘cartesian_point = (3, 2)’.
>>
>> Whereas the ‘2’ in ‘test_scores = [2, 3]’ means exactly the same as in
>> ‘test_scores = [3
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:44 AM, fl wrote:
> I come across the following code snippet.
>
> for i in range(10):
> def callback():
> print "clicked button", i
> UI.Button("button %s" % i, callback)
>
> The content inside parenthesis in last line is strange to me.
>
> "button %s" % i
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 10:36 AM, fl wrote:
> Thanks for the replies. Now, I have the following code:
>
>
>
> class buibutton():
> print 'sd'
> def __nonzero__(self):
>return False
>
> def Button(self, ii, callbackk):
> callbackk()
> return
> UI=buibutton()
>
>
China (CN) domain
names. But after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name
or trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it's necessary to send
email to you and confirm whether this company is your distributor or business
partner in China?
Kind regards
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 10:55:23 -0800 (PST), fl declaimed
> the following:
>
>>Thanks Ian. I created the class because I want to use the original example
>>line
>>
>> UI.Button("button %s" % i,
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 03:19:39 +0100, "Skybuck Flying"
> wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>The question is:
>>
>>Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?!
>
> You download things FROM a computer, you upload them TO a computer.
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Denis McMahon wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 03:32:31 +, MRAB wrote:
>
>> In the case of:
>>
>> tup[1] += [6, 7]
>>
>> what it's trying to do is:
>>
>> tup[1] = tup[1].__iadd__([6, 7])
>>
>> tup[1] refers to a list, and the __iadd__ method _does_ mutate
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 6:05 AM, Random832 wrote:
>> On 2015-12-01, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>> You download things FROM a computer, you upload them TO a computer.
>>
>> I'm a little bit confused as to what kinds of file transfers
>> you think do
On Dec 1, 2015 1:36 PM, "Rick Johnson" wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 1:55:59 AM UTC-6, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > Python was never intended to be "merely" a teaching language. I think
> > Guido's original vision was for it to be a glue language between C
> > libraries, and a scri
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> Op 02-12-15 om 14:11 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:09 pm, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>
>>> If you want your arguments to be taken seriously, then you better should.
>>> If you use an argument when it suits you and ignore it when
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Juha Nieminen writes:
>> In comp.lang.c++ Steve Hayes wrote:
>>> You download things FROM a computer, you upload them TO a computer.
>>
>> It's a matter of perspective. If a hacker breaks into your computer and
>> starts a download from so
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Dylan Riley wrote:
> hi all,
> I have been trying to figure out all day why my code is printing single
> characters from my list when i print random elements using random.choice the
> elements in the list are not single characters for example when i print,
> pri
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Dylan Riley wrote:
> hi ian what would be the correct code to use in this situation then because
> as far as i am aware the elements of my list should be printed as whole
> elements and not just characters of the elements.
order.append(choice)
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Antoon Pardon
wrote:
> Op 02-12-15 om 15:15 schreef Ian Kelly:
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Antoon Pardon
>> wrote:
>>> Op 02-12-15 om 14:11 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:09 pm, Antoon Pardon wro
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Robert wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I learn split method online. When I try to run the line with ss1 beginning,
> I don't understand why its output of ss1 and ss2. I have check the help
> about split. It looks like that it is a numpy method.
> What is the split method parameter
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:09 PM, wrote:
> Hi.
>
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2015-July/140823.html
> Python 3.5 was dropped the support Windows XP and 2003.
>
>
>
> It's just an aside, but Python 3.5.1 works on my customized Windows 2000 :P
> http://blog.livedoor.jp/blackwingcat/
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Joseph L. Casale
wrote:
> I need to return a collection of various types, since python doesn't
> have the terse facility of extension methods like C#, subclassing tuple
> and adding a method seems like a terse way to accommodate this.
If you're not already familiar
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Robin Koch wrote:
> Now *I* am confused.
>
> Shouldn't it be
>
> ", ".join(['1', '2', '4', '8', '16'])
>
> instead? Without any importing?
That would be the normal way to write it. The FAQ entry is suggesting
the string module function as an alternative for those w
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Stephan Sahm wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I just stumbled upon a very weird behaviour of python 2 and python 3. At
> least I was not able to find a solution.
>
> The point is to dynamically define __add__, __or__ and so on via __getattr__
> (for example by deriving them f
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 10:21 AM, d...@forestfield.co.uk
wrote:
> Python 3.5 will not run under Windows XP, but what about applications created
> using py2exe or cx_freeze under Windows 7, 8 or 10, is there any knowledge of
> whether they will run under XP?
I wouldn't expect them to. Those bundl
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Bill Winslow wrote:
> This is a question I posed to reddit, with no real resolution:
> https://www.reddit.com/r/learnpython/comments/3v75g4/using_functoolslru_cache_only_on_some_arguments/
>
> The summary for people here is the following:
>
> Here's a pattern I'm us
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Oh, I can make one guess... if you're using Windows XP, I'm afraid that
> Python 3.5 is not supported. You'll have to either downgrade to Python 3.4,
> or upgrade to Windows 7 or higher, or another operating system.
For the sake of accuracy
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a class A, containing embedded embedded classes, which need to access
> methods from A.
> .
> A highly contrived example, where I'm setting up an outer class in a Has-a
> relationship, containing a number of Actors. The inn
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 2:07 PM, wrote:
> Hello all! Just started getting into Python, and am very excited about the
> prospect.
>
> I am struggling on some general concepts. My past experience with
> server-side code is mostly limited to PHP and websites. I have some file
> called "whatever
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> So that's a quick potted summary of why the URLs don't reflect the
> language used. Python is event-driven, but instead of defining events
> at the file level, the way PHP does, they're defined at the function
> level. Of course, if you *want
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:27 PM, wrote:
> Thank you all!
>
> Okay, the concept of a WSGI along with a framework provides insight on my
> main questions.
>
> In regards to Chris's statement: "It openly and honestly does NOT reset its
> state between page requests"
>
> With PHP, I have sessions to
On Dec 5, 2015 10:21 AM, "BartC" wrote:
>
>
> The latter is not the same. Some of the differences are:
>
> * ++ and -- are often inside inside expressions and return values (unlike
x+=1 in Python)
>
> * x++ and x-- return the /current/ value of x, unlike x+=1 even if it
were to return a val
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Erik wrote:
> On 08/12/15 19:02, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>
>> Erik wrote:
>>
>> Please fix, Erik #75656.
>
>
> Fixed(*)
[SNIP]
> (*) In the sense that it's not going to change ;)
Then I think you mean "Working as Intended", not "Fixed". B-)
--
ht
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:10 AM, ICT Ezy wrote:
> Dear All,
> Very Sorry for the my mistake here. I code here with mu question ...
>
> My Question:
>
> A,B=C,D=10,11
> print(A,B,C,D)
> #(10,11,10,11) --> This is OK!
>
> a=1; b=2
> a,b=b,a
> print(a,b)
> # (1,2) --> This is OK!
This actually resul
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Robin Koch wrote:
> Assigning goes from right to left:
>
> x,y=y,x=2,3
>
> <=>
>
> y, x = 2, 3
> x, y = y, x
>
> Otherwise the assignment x, y = y, x would not make any sense, since x and y
> haven't any values yet.
>
> And the execution from right to left is also
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Jay Hamm wrote:
> Hi
>
> I was trying to use your windows version of python 3.5.1 x64.
>
> It has a conflict with a notepad++ plugin NppFTP giving
> api-ms-win-crt-runtime-I1-1-0.dll error on start up.
>
> This seems pretty well documented on the web. The work aro
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Seung Kim wrote:
> See message below.
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Seung Kim wrote:
>
>> I would like to have Python 3.5.1 MSI installer files for both 32-bit and
>> 64-bit so that I can deploy the software on managed computers on campus.
>>
>> When I ran
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Ganesh Pal wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> Iam on linux and python 2.7 . I have a bunch of functions which I
> have run sequentially .
> I have put them in a list and Iam calling the functions in the list as
> shown below , this works fine for me , please share your
> op
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> f = open("stairs.bin", "rb")
> data = list(f.read(16))
> print data
>
> returns
>
> ['=', '\x04', '\x00', '\x05', '\x00', '\x01', '\x00', '\x00', '\x00', '\x00',
> '\x00', '\x00', '\x00', '\x00', '\x00', '\x00']
>
> The fir
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 1:05 PM, KP wrote:
> On Sunday, 13 December 2015 11:57:57 UTC-8, Laura Creighton wrote:
>> In a message of Sun, 13 Dec 2015 11:45:19 -0800, KP writes:
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> > f = open("stairs.bin", "rb")
>> > data = list(f.read(16))
>> > print data
>> >
>> >re
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Vincent Davis wrote:
> In the code below try is used to check if handle has the attribute name. It
> seems an if statement could be used. Is there reason one way would be
> better than another?
http://www.oranlooney.com/lbyl-vs-eafp/
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On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Vincent Davis wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>
>> First, notice that the code inside the try/except _only_ fetches the
>> attribute. Your version calls the "write" attribute, and also accesses
>> handle.name. Either of those migh
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Pavlos Parissis
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to store values for metrics and return the average for some
> and the sum for the rest. Thus, I thought I could extend
> collections.Counter class by returning averages for some keys.
Leave Counter out of it, as this is not
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Pavlos Parissis
wrote:
> On 15/12/2015 05:11 μμ, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Pavlos Parissis
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I need to store values for metrics and return the average for some
>&
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Pavlos Parissis
wrote:
>> If you want your metrics container to act like a dict, then my
>> suggestion would be to just use a dict, with pseudo-collections for
>> the values as above.
>>
>
> If I understood you correctly, you are saying store all metrics in a
> di
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Simian wrote:
> I added
>
> except urllib.error.HTTPError as e:
> print('HTTP Errpr')
> print('Error code: ', e.code)
>
> to my try and I recieve...
>
> 400: ('Bad Request',
> 'Bad request syntax or unsupported method'),
>
> but processing the string
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:12 PM, John Gordon wrote:
> In <9aa21642-765b-4666-8c66-a6dab9928...@googlegroups.com>
> simian...@gmail.com writes:
>
>> Bad Request
>> b''
>
>
> That probably means you aren't using one of the recognized methods
> (i.e. GET, POST, etc.)
>
> It doesn't look like you are
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> The culprit character is hidden between "Issue #" and "20540" at line 400 of
> C:\Python35\Lib\multiprocessing\connection.py.
> https://bugs.python.org/issue20540 and
> https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/125c24f47f3c refers.
>
> I'm asking as
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 9:40 AM, duncan smith wrote:
> Finite state machine / transition matrix. Learn from some English text
> source. Then process your strings by lower casing, replacing underscores
> with spaces, removing trailing numeric characters etc. Base your score
> on something like the
On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
>> wrote:
>
> It is supposed to be an attribution *line*, _not_ an attribution novel.
> Also, the “(was: …)” part is to be removed from the Sub
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> Ian Kelly writes:
>> This isn't just a Usenet group; it's also a mailing list, and many
>> MUAs rely on the Subject header for proper threading.
>
> If such MUAs do that, they're misinterpreting the Subject
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Jon Ribbens
wrote:
> On 2015-12-21, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> The whole purpose of the change of subject is to indicate in a human-visible
>> way that the subject of the thread has changed, i.e. that it is a new
>> thread derived from the old one. If that breaks t
On Dec 21, 2015 4:55 PM, "Terry Reedy" wrote:
>
> Nothing has changed since except for
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0498/
> already added to 3.6.
https://xkcd.com/927/
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On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2015-12-21, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
>> So as far as I am concerned, if changes of subject line breaks threading for
>> you, so sad, too bad. Go without threading or use a better mail client.
>
> Same here. After getting what is effectiv
On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 8:14 AM, wrote:
> As you can see, I want the program to print all values each 5 seconds.
> When I run the file "main.py" it does print values every 5 seconds, BUT when
> I manually change
> the values (e.g. airTemperture = 30 instead of 24) and save the file, nothing
> c
On Dec 30, 2015 7:46 AM, "Charles T. Smith" wrote:
> As is so often the case, in composing my answer to your question, I discovered
> a number of problems in my class (e.g. I was calling __getitem__() myself!),
> but
> I'm puzzled now how to proceed. I thought the way you avoid triggering
> __g
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles T. Smith
wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 08:35:57 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote:
>
>> On Dec 30, 2015 7:46 AM, "Charles T. Smith"
>> wrote:
>>> As is so often the case, in composing my answer to your question, I
>>> di
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 3:46 PM, wrote:
> How do I get from here
>
> t = ('1024', '1280')
>
> to
>
> t = (1024, 1280)
Deja vu: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2015-December/701017.html
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On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Charles T. Smith
wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 13:40:44 -0700, Ian Kelly wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Charles T. Smith
>>> The problem is that then triggers the __getitem__() method and I don't
>>> know h
On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 8:59 AM, wrote:
> Thanks Chris!
> Don't worry about the indent, will fix it
> I've rewritten it to this-
>
> def get_algorithm_result( numlist ):
>> largest = numlist[0]
>> i = 1
>> while ( i < len(numlist) ):
> i = i + 1
>>if ( largest < numlist[i]):
>> l
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 07:50 am, livems...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> So what is the fastest way to make 400 HTTP requests using "requests"
>> library and also using tor proxy?
>
>
> Since this will be I/O bound, not CPU bound, probably use separate
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 5:49 PM, wrote:
> For example,
>
> name = "test" # test.py is a module's file
> import name
Yes, use the importlib.import_module function.
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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano writes:
>> Maybe they're stress-testing a web server, or they just want to download
>> things in a rush.
>
> They're stress-testing a web server through a tor proxy? This sounds
> abusive to me.
>
> I also wonder whether 400 re
As you found by searching, __reduce__ is used to determine how
instances of the class are pickled. If the example you're using
doesn't do any pickling, then it's not really relevant to the example.
It's probably included so that it won't be missed when the code is
copied.
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Skip Montanaro
wrote:
> Sorry, I should have been explicit. prob_dates (the actual argument of the
> call) is a set. As far as I know pylint does no type inference, so pylint
> can't tell if the LHS and RHS of the |= operator are appropriate, nor can
> it tell if i
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> Using the values views at intended (as an iterable):
>
dv = d.values()
next(iter(dv))
> 1
Good coding practice also dictates that whenever next is called, the
potential StopIteration exception must be caught unless it is clearly
int
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Bernardo Sulzbach
wrote:
> I have never gone "seriously OO" with Python though. I never wrote
> from scratch an application with more than 10 classes as far as I can
> remember. However, I would suppose that the interpreter can handle
> thousands of user-defined cl
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> You're quite probably right that obfuscating the display is security
> theatre; but it's the security theatre that people are expecting. If
> you're about to enter your credit card details into a web form, does
> it really matter whether or
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> So you're suggesting that GvR *WILLINGLY* left a global, and
> well established giant, to work for a tiny start-up because
> his bosses refused to switch from Python2 to (his new baby)
> Pyhton3?
>
> So, let me get this strait: he wasn't fired
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Shiva Upreti wrote:
> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4baa67aafd04555eb4e6
>
> I wrote the above code to display a toasterbox, and I didnt want it to
> display any frames on the screen, just a toasterbox. The problem with this
> code is that it runs fine when
On Jan 16, 2016 3:02 AM, "JeffP" wrote:
>
> Hi
> I installed pyth3.5 on my Windows machine and had some complications
trying to connect other components.
> I installed to the default directory chosen by the installer but that
included a folder with an embedded space in the name. BIG NO NO
Pr
On Jan 17, 2016 12:16 AM, "Steven D'Aprano" wrote:
>
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 10:25 am, jonas.thornv...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > double use of j in two different functions
>
> Are you using a global variable called "j" as a loop variable? That sounds
> like a terrible idea.
>
> You should use local var
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 8:03 AM, David Gabriel wrote:
> Dears,
>
> Let me add one more detail: When I add these two lines to check whether my
> modules are monkey_patched or not I get *False* as a result.
> I think it is strange to get this result since I patched my modules at the
> beginning usin
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Charles T. Smith
>> Okay, I think I understand it now:
>>
>> (PDB)type (int)
>>
>>
>> (PDB)type (float)
>>
>
> And that's pretty strong evidence right there! So the next question
> is... what got imported u
On Jan 21, 2016 7:31 AM, "Charles T. Smith"
wrote:
>
> What does "from (module) import (func)" do?
Approximately equivalent to:
import module
func = module.func
Except that it doesn't bind "module" to anything.
> Please don't tell me that I shouldn't ask because real programmers
> know not to
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Charles T. Smith
wrote:
>>> would you explain to me why I get this:
>>>
>>> (PDB)hexdump(msg)
>>> *** NameError: name 'hexdump' is not defined
>>
>> Probably because the name 'hexdump' is not defined.
>
>
> If indeed it's not defined, then I wouldn't think there'
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:12 AM, Marco Buttu wrote:
> I enabled the deprecation warnings in Python 3.5.1 and Python 3.6 dev, and I
> noticed that assigning to async or await does not issue any deprecation
> warning:
>
> $ python -Wd -c "import sys; print(sys.version); async = 33"
> 3.5.1 (default,
On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Frank Millman wrote:
> Here is the difficulty. The recommended way to handle a blocking operation
> is to run it as task in a different thread, using run_in_executor(). This
> method is a coroutine. An implication of this is that any method that calls
> it must als
On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> This is where it would make sense to me to use callbacks instead of
> subroutines. You can structure your __init__ method like this:
Doh.
s/subroutines/coroutines
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On Jan 25, 2016 2:04 AM, "Frank Millman" wrote:
>
> "Ian Kelly" wrote in message
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>>
>> This seems to be a common misapprehension about asyncio programming.
>> While coroutines
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>
> On Jan 25, 2016 2:04 AM, "Frank Millman" wrote:
>>
>> "Ian Kelly" wrote in message
>> news:calwzidngogpx+cpmvba8vpefuq4-bwmvs0gz3shb0owzi0b...@mail.gmail.com...
>>>
>>> This
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 2:20 PM, MRAB wrote:
> The format method, on the other hand, belongs to the format string it's
> attached to. In this example:
>
> 'The new price is {}' .format(newPrice, '.2f')
>
> the format string is 'The new price is {}' and you're calling its 'format'
> method with
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:19 AM, MRAB wrote:
>
>
> On 2016-01-25 16:51:36, "Ian Kelly" wrote:
>
>>
>> Why doesn't str.format raise an exception when passed extra positional
>> arguments?
>>
> That format string uses auto-numbering, and i
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 7:15 AM, Frank Millman wrote:
> I am making some progress, but I have found a snag - possibly unavoidable,
> but worth a mention.
>
> Usually when I retrieve rows from a database I iterate over the cursor -
>
>def get_rows(sql, params):
>cur.execute(sql, params)
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:40 AM, Frank Millman wrote:
> "Ian Kelly" wrote in message
> news:CALwzidk-RBkB-vi6CgcEeoFHQrsoTFvqX9MqzDD=rny5boc...@mail.gmail.com...
>
>> You probably want an asynchronous iterator here. If the cursor doesn't
>> provide that,
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> class CursorWrapper:
>
> def __init__(self, cursor):
> self._cursor = cursor
>
> async def __aiter__(self):
> return self
>
> async def __anext__(self):
> loop = asyncio.get_event
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> Unfortunately this doesn't actually work at present.
> EventLoop.run_in_executor swallows the StopIteration exception and
> just returns None, which I assume is a bug.
http://bugs.python.org/issue26221
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On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Frank Millman wrote:
> I have hit a snag. It feels like a bug in 'await q.get()', though I am sure
> it is just me misunderstanding how it works.
>
> I can post some working code if necessary, but here is a short description.
>
> Here is the database handler - 'req
On Jan 28, 2016 4:13 AM, "Frank Millman" wrote:
>
> "Chris Angelico" wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:13 PM, Frank Millman
wrote:
>> > Run the database handler in a separate thread. Use a queue.Queue to
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Maxime S wrote:
>
> 2016-01-28 17:53 GMT+01:00 Ian Kelly :
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Frank Millman wrote:
>>
>> > The caller requests some data from the database like this.
>> >
>> >r
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