With the recent introduction of i386 architecture Macs, it's becoming
a necessity to support two architectures for the platform: PPC and
i386. Fortunately this is done somewhat easily using Apple's GCC 4
compiler and their linker toolchain. Ronald and I have already
basically made all of
Charles, I love the fact that you've taken the time to think through
this! Hurrah!
However...
> Somebody who comes idly to the idea of programming in Python, and
> finds the pythonmac page, will be happy if the result is an
> afternoon's work that ends in a "hello world," possibly in a windo
On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:18 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I agree pretty much completely with Charles Harman, Bill Janssen, and
>> others.
>
> So do I, however
Who doesn't? I want world peace too ;)
> This is Open Source software! Which doesn't mean that it can't
On 2/6/06, Charles Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 4. downloading & installing wxPython
> 5. downloading & installing [fill in name of IDE]
Can I politely suggest PyObjC? In my opinion, unless you need a
cross-platform GUI, you're much better off starting and staying with
PyObjC.
This is a little separate from my previous message, though it speaks
to question #2 in that message.
Somebody who comes idly to the idea of programming in Python, and
finds the pythonmac page, will be happy if the result is an
afternoon's work that ends in a "hello world," possibly in a wind
OK, here's the first donkey -- please step up to the line & fire when ready.The project is to build a new front page for pythonmac.org that will serve as a welcome and introduction for anyone who wants to write Python programs on the Mac. (An assumption behind this is that the site will come up qui
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I agree pretty much completely with Charles Harman, Bill Janssen, and
> others.
So do I, however
This is Open Source software! Which doesn't mean that it can't be great
in every way, but it does mean that it is developed for different
reasons than commercial sof
I agree pretty much completely with Charles Harman, Bill Janssen, and
others. I learned programming in 1974 and have programmed ever since
for my own engineering work. I use and have used many languages,
trying to pick the best one for the job. I have gripes with many of
the specialized lan
On Feb 6, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Bob Ippolito wrote:
>> Caveat emptor. You can not build extensions on 10.3.9 when using a
>> universal build.
>
> Fair enough. No is going to be running 10.3 on an Intel Mac. If you
> want
> to develop for Intel users, you need 10.4. Peri
Bob Ippolito wrote:
> Caveat emptor. You can not build extensions on 10.3.9 when using a
> universal build.
Fair enough. No is going to be running 10.3 on an Intel Mac. If you want
to develop for Intel users, you need 10.4. Period.
However, given that, I think we should perhaps just suggest th
Charles Hartman wrote:
> Me & my big mouth. OK, I will take a serious look at the page, and
> see whether I can construct something that at least gets to the point
> of having blanks that someone with knowledge can fill in.
>
> Charles
>
>
Charles,
It might not be a big job. If you get it
On Feb 6, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> NOTE: I think we can recommend the same thing at this point for all
> users of OS-X 10.3 and 10.4. It also looks like the new Universal
> build
> may become the news recommended Python for OS-X 10.3.9 and above, but
> it's not ready yet.
Christopher Barker wrote:
>
> I don't think there is blaming: more like expression of frustration and
> suggestions for improvement.
>
> Charles, if you want to help, here's my suggestion:
>
> Re-write the main pythonmac.org page, then post your version to this
> list for discussion. If it is well
Me & my big mouth. OK, I will take a serious look at the page, and
see whether I can construct something that at least gets to the point
of having blanks that someone with knowledge can fill in.
Charles
On Feb 6, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Charles, if you want to help, her
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm having a problem with redrawing in the following context. I have a
> Notebook, and one of the pages in that notebook defines another Notebook. If
> you select the page that doesn't contain a notebook, and then cause a redraw
> to take place (just change focus away from the
On Feb 6, 2006, at 12:09 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:
> Kevin Walzer replies to Charles Hartman:
>> Charles Hartman wrote:
>>> Hence, yet again, a plea for newbies everywhere:
>>>
>>> I continue to believe that it really, really shouldn't be
>>> necessary for
>>> people who want to write programs in
On Feb 6, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Bob Ippolito wrote:
>> The framework build's bin directory is technically way down inside
>> the framework, but there are symlinks in /usr/local/bin.
>
> However:
>
> linda.s wrote:
>> The
>> installation appeared to be fine until "make ins
Charles Hartman wrote:
> Maybe linda.s might have a more useful perspective
> at this point?
Charles, I totally agree with you about newbies and Python. However,
linda.s compiled python from source. Anyone who is compiling from source
should darn well be able to figure out how to add something to
Kevin Walzer replies to Charles Hartman:
> Charles Hartman wrote:
> > Hence, yet again, a plea for newbies everywhere:
> >
> > I continue to believe that it really, really shouldn't be necessary for
> > people who want to write programs in Python for the Mac to do all this.
> > Great to learn as m
Bob Ippolito wrote:
> The framework build's bin directory is technically way down inside
> the framework, but there are symlinks in /usr/local/bin.
However:
linda.s wrote:
> The
> installation appeared to be fine until "make install" was complete.
So it looks like the OP didn't do a Framework
On Feb 6, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Justin Mitchell wrote:
> On 2/6/06, linda.s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I just used the 2.4.1 release found here: http://undefined.org/
>>> python/
>>>
>>> - Justin
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Just curious, where is the bin directory (I could not find it)?
>> L.
>>
>
> I tho
On 2/6/06, linda.s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just used the 2.4.1 release found here: http://undefined.org/python/
> >
> > - Justin
>
> Thanks.
> Just curious, where is the bin directory (I could not find it)?
> L.
>
I thought it was /usr/local/bin/python. If not, try using "locate" to
find
From: Charles Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: 6 February 2006 06:43:48 GMT-08:00To: Louis Pecora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cc: pythonmac-sig@python.orgSubject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] install again? Hence, yet again, a plea for newbies everywhere:I continue to believe that it really, really shouldn't be nece
Of course I don't disagree with any of this (except that a version of
Revolution is available under academic license for about $60 as I
recall). *Certainly* I'm grateful for the work Bob, Ronald, and
others are doing to make the whole edifice stand up. I'm not
complaining. I'm speculating t
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> There are a lot of programming environments on the Mac besides
> Applescript that work from the GUI without any need to delve. Runtime
> Revolution and Breve are two examples that come to mind immediately. I'm
> thinking, fo
Oh well, "other platforms" -- if that means Linux of course you have to learn those same things, but you undoubtedly already know them. If it means Windows, I'd rather drive a truck, and I'm thinking particularly of potential users who feel the same way.There are a lot of programming environments o
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Charles Hartman wrote:
> Hence, yet again, a plea for newbies everywhere:
>
> I continue to believe that it really, really shouldn't be necessary for
> people who want to write programs in Python for the Mac to do all this.
> Great to learn as much as
On 2/6/06, Louis Pecora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> linda.s wrote:
> > On 2/6/06, Larry Meyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Create the following text file and save it as ".bash_profile" in your home
> >> directory.
> >> --Larry
> >>
> >> # .bash_profile
> >>
> >> # Get the aliases and functio
Hence, yet again, a plea for newbies everywhere:I continue to believe that it really, really shouldn't be necessary for people who want to write programs in Python for the Mac to do all this. Great to learn as much as possible, yes, always -- but to require people, just to get started, to learn abo
linda.s wrote:
> On 2/6/06, Larry Meyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Create the following text file and save it as ".bash_profile" in your home
>> directory.
>> --Larry
>>
>> # .bash_profile
>>
>> # Get the aliases and functions
>> if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
>> . ~/.bashrc
>> fi
>>
>> #
On 2/6/06, Larry Meyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Create the following text file and save it as ".bash_profile" in your home
> directory.
> --Larry
>
> # .bash_profile
>
> # Get the aliases and functions
> if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
> . ~/.bashrc
> fi
>
> # User specific environment and sta
Create the following text file and save it as ".bash_profile" in your home directory.--Larry# .bash_profile# Get the aliases and functionsif [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then . ~/.bashrcfi# User specific environment and startup programsPATH=/usr/local/bin:/$PATH;export PATH# End of FileOn Feb 6, 2006,
On 2/6/06, Charles Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:00 AM, linda.s wrote:
>
> Python 2.3.5 instead of Python 2.4.2, very confused... Some one
> suggested me to download MacPython. So I am thinking about removing
> the Python 2.4.2 from my machine (still curious why it d
On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:00 AM, linda.s wrote:Python 2.3.5 instead of Python 2.4.2, very confused... Some onesuggested me to download MacPython. So I am thinking about removingthe Python 2.4.2 from my machine (still curious why it did notappear).You just want to change your PATH. If your built-from-scr
On 6-Feb-06, at 5:00 AM, linda.s wrote:
> Actually I downloaded python 2.4.2 and install it from source. The
> installation appeared to be fine until "make install" was complete.
> However, after I reenter the terminal and call Python, it still showed
> Python 2.3.5 instead of Python 2.4.2, very
On 2/6/06, David Warde-Farley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 6-Feb-06, at 4:46 AM, linda.s wrote:
>
> > How to smoothly remove two former pythons from my Mac?
> > I have Python 2.3.5 installed in the machine. I tried to install
> > Python 2.4.2 from source but it did not appear.
> > How can I sm
On 6-Feb-06, at 4:46 AM, linda.s wrote:
> How to smoothly remove two former pythons from my Mac?
> I have Python 2.3.5 installed in the machine. I tried to install
> Python 2.4.2 from source but it did not appear.
> How can I smoothly remove both of them and install a another python
> version?
How to smoothly remove two former pythons from my Mac?
I have Python 2.3.5 installed in the machine. I tried to install
Python 2.4.2 from source but it did not appear.
How can I smoothly remove both of them and install a another python version?
Thanks!
Linda
> I just used the 2.4.1 release found here: http://undefined.org/python/
>
> - Justin
Thanks.
Just curious, where is the bin directory (I could not find it)?
L.
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On 2/6/06, linda.s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/6/06, Justin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 2/6/06, linda.s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > > The version of My Mac is
> > > Mac OX 10.4.4; I guess that Python 2.3.5 came with the Mac OX10.4.4
> > > I wanted to install
On 2/6/06, Justin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/6/06, linda.s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > The version of My Mac is
> > Mac OX 10.4.4; I guess that Python 2.3.5 came with the Mac OX10.4.4
> > I wanted to install Python 2.4.2; It worked fine till "Make
> > Install". Afte
On 2/6/06, linda.s <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
> The version of My Mac is
> Mac OX 10.4.4; I guess that Python 2.3.5 came with the Mac OX10.4.4
> I wanted to install Python 2.4.2; It worked fine till "Make
> Install". After I reentered the terminal, I still saw Python 2.3.5
> instead of
Hi there,
The version of My Mac is
Mac OX 10.4.4; I guess that Python 2.3.5 came with the Mac OX10.4.4
I wanted to install Python 2.4.2; It worked fine till "Make
Install". After I reentered the terminal, I still saw Python 2.3.5
instead of 2.4.2.
Ver confused...
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