Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH

2004-11-25 Thread P Witte
Tony Firshman writes: ...I wonder when Tony Firshman is going to get his first helpdesk call from some frustrated troglodyte wondering why his 200 cowry microdrive doesnt fit in the slot without the aid of a club! That was meant as a tease rather than a criticism. If I had taken it as a

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH

2004-11-24 Thread Malcolm Lear
After that it gets difficult: Some people may not want to move on from microdrives. They wont want PE or anything newfangled like that, otherwise Id suggest that the following products were also considered a fundamental part of the system for ALL platforms: Microdrives! I'd actually forgotten

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH

2004-11-24 Thread P Witte
Malcolm Lear writes: After that it gets difficult: Some people may not want to move on from microdrives. They wont want PE or anything newfangled like that, otherwise Id suggest that the following products were also considered a fundamental part of the system for ALL platforms:

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH

2004-11-24 Thread P Witte
I wrote: ...I wonder when Tony Firshman is going to get his first helpdesk call from some frustrated troglodyte wondering why his 200 cowry microdrive doesnt fit in the slot without the aid of a club! That was meant as a tease rather than a criticism. Per

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH

2004-11-24 Thread Tony Firshman
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 at 01:40:33, P Witte wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I wrote: ...I wonder when Tony Firshman is going to get his first helpdesk call from some frustrated troglodyte wondering why his 200 cowry microdrive doesnt fit in the slot without the aid of a club! That was meant as

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-23 Thread - Aucun -
So, essentially, throwing muck at Quanta is part of the problem. It's an information and opinion overload that prevents any concensus. half the people are for something. Half the people are against something. There's lots of overlap. Paralysis! In a business there is only one who takes

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-23 Thread P Witte
Dave Park writes: My own personal opinion about futures of platforms isn't based on their strengths, but their weaknesses. As such, I don't feel the urge to create fixes for problems that don't really exist any more. However, I do feel there are two or three key areas that are costing the

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-23 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: Duncan Neithercut Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 10:33 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH Before I answer your comments a personal opinion. During the time I have been in Quanta I have not seen a chairman make such a serious

RE: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-23 Thread Duncan Neithercut
The question actually is which one of these schemes do QL users want : I think the democratic version Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of - Aucun - Sent: 23 November 2004 09:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Fw

RE: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-23 Thread Duncan Neithercut
PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks Sent: 23 November 2004 20:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH - Original Message - From: Duncan Neithercut Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 10:33 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-22 Thread dilwyn.jones
I have decided to forward this message as I think all Quanta members should read it. Derogatory comments about a third person have been removed. - Original Message - From: john mason To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: John Mason ; Geoff Wicks ; John Gregory ; Roy Brereton ; John Gilpin

Re: Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-22 Thread dilwyn.jones
Bruce Nicholls wrote: I would just like to stipulate this is NOT a Quanta List. The welcome instructions setup a long, long time ago. :- Welcome --- Welcome to the QL/SMS mailing list! This list is for any discussion related to QL/SMS be it news, help, queries, for sale

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-22 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH Despite what got said in and about this letter, I don't consider it offensive in the form which was forwarded. There are issues of 'netiquette' (shouting etc) which someone fairly new

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-22 Thread Dave P
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, gwicks wrote: As one of the persons named in the letter (or rather not named, but everyone knew whom John meant) I agree fully with the above sentiment. We have slagged Quanta off and thus they have a right to reply. Equally John must accept there will be robust

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-22 Thread Tarquin Mills
Dexter P wrote: i. The availability of new, performance hardware at a reasonable price. ii. The connectivity issue. iii. The huge variety and assortment of toolkits and add-ons required to do even simple things - such features belong in the OS package (not necessarily

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-22 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP The heart of the problem is that the userbase is not attracting new members, and is losing older and experienced members by attrition (some of us were old when the QL was released) and by need for more applicable platforms in

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-22 Thread Tony Firshman
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 at 19:37:07, gwicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Subject: Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH Despite what got said in and about this letter, I don't consider it offensive in the form which was forwarded

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-22 Thread Dave P
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Roy wood wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Dave Park wrote: The availability of new, performance hardware at a reasonable price. A vital point and one that I have urged Nasta towards. The real problem for Nasta is such a simple one. He has a complete design ready to go - he

[ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-21 Thread gwicks
I have decided to forward this message as I think all Quanta members should read it. Derogatory comments about a third person have been removed. - Original Message - From: john mason To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: John Mason ; Geoff Wicks ; John Gregory ; Roy Brereton ; John Gilpin ; John

Re[2]: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-21 Thread Bruce N
Hello All, I would just like to stipulate this is NOT a Quanta List. The welcome instructions setup a long, long time ago. :- Welcome --- Welcome to the QL/SMS mailing list! This list is for any discussion related to QL/SMS be it news, help, queries, for sale etc. Off topic

Re: Re[2]: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-21 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 21 Nov 2004 at 15:24, Bruce N wrote: I would just like to stipulate this is NOT a Quanta List. Thanks for making this clear, Bruce! Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-21 Thread Tony Firshman
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 15:24:37, Bruce N wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hello All, I would just like to stipulate this is NOT a Quanta List. The welcome instructions setup a long, long time ago. :- Welcome --- Welcome to the QL/SMS mailing list! This list is for any discussion

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-21 Thread Tony Firshman
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 19:08:53, john mason wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Dear Bruce, Further to our telephone conversation this afternoon re above I am as intrigued as you are as to why the email I forward below has not appeared in ql-users Inbox. I have not received any unable to deliver

Re: Re[2]: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-21 Thread Mike MacNamara
, November 21, 2004 4:24 PM Subject: Re[2]: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH Hello All, I would just like to stipulate this is NOT a Quanta List. The welcome instructions setup a long, long time ago. :- Welcome --- Welcome to the QL/SMS mailing list

RE: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-21 Thread Duncan Neithercut
health? Best wishes Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeremy Taffel Sent: 21 November 2004 18:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH What an extraordinary outburst!! I'd

Re: [ql-users] Fw: ENOUGH is ENOUGH and MORE THAN ENOUGH

2004-11-21 Thread Jeremy Taffel
OK, now I'm confused. What IS the history of this list? The reason I ask, is that going back through my inbox I found that that a couple of years ago, the address for the list was [EMAIL PROTECTED], and that the welcome email suggests that Bruce's email address was [EMAIL PROTECTED] So was the