Re: multilog logging with vpopmail

2000-11-14 Thread Miguel Beccari
>Hello. I've setup vpopmail for the first time last night and so far >it works pretty good. I really don't like the fact that it logs to >syslog and mail.log, however, and would prefer to use multilog with it >under supervise which works for my qmail/qmail-smtp logging. I >currently have a /var

RE: pop3 isn't finding Maildir

2000-11-14 Thread Andrew Richards
Ruprecht, /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake home_directory_of_user/Maildir and as seen often on this list, "What do the logs say?" (TM) - in particular, if the user you're having problems with doesn't have a Maildir, perhaps they're not able to receive mail anyway... cheers, Andrew. -- F

Antispam with authorization from POP3 server.

2000-11-14 Thread Michael A. Borisov
Hello. It is necessary to me to authorize everyone, who tries to send mail through my SMTP server. I want to use for this purpose authorization of a POP3 server. I want that authorization was requested for the user, which is specified in a field 'from:' of the head of the sent message. How it is p

qmail Digest 14 Nov 2000 11:00:00 -0000 Issue 1183

2000-11-14 Thread qmail-digest-help
qmail Digest 14 Nov 2000 11:00:00 - Issue 1183 Topics (messages 52072 through 52137): *.lock files (?) 52072 by: Miguel Beccari Re: how to use qmail-remote 52073 by: James Raftery Re: qmail 1.04 52074 by: Peter van Dijk 451 qq Trouble creating files in Queue

Re: MX routing question

2000-11-14 Thread Paul Farber
take the non-local domains out of the locals file. Paul Farber Farber Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545 On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Oliver Menzel wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to make all mail incoming for a bunch of hosts to be > delivered to this one mail host. > > So i'

HELP!

2000-11-14 Thread Casey Allen Shobe
Hi, I cannot unsubscribe an old email address which I no longer use but forwards to this one. I'd like to subscribe using the proper account, but don't want duplicates... -- Casey Allen Shobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://aixos.net **Using AixOS.net Webmail Interface**

Fresh Installation

2000-11-14 Thread Mark Anderson
I just moved from Sendmail to Qmail and I'm having problems with it. Mails from a mail client seem to go through without any problems but when I manually send a mail through a telnet connection to port 25 I get the following error after I send the EOF during the message section; 451 unable to exe

Re: Fresh Installation

2000-11-14 Thread James Raftery
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:54:00PM -, Mark Anderson wrote: > 451 unable to exec qq (#4.3.0) To place a message in to the queue qmail needs to run /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue The error you're seeing is often caused by having /var mounted with the nosuid option (qmail-queue is setuid). james

reg. qmail-qmqpd and qmail-qmtpd

2000-11-14 Thread RamKumar
Hi i would like to know what qmail-qmqpd and qmail-qmtpd are used for? and where i could get more information about the same. thanks ram

Startup Script

2000-11-14 Thread Travis Turner
Does any one Have a good startup script for qmail on RH 6.2 Linux. The one that came with the "Running Qmail" book has some sort of error in it. It basically gives me an error on startup that says line 14 error somewhere around stop). I would appreciate the help Regards, Travis Travis Turne

how best to log rblsmtpd?

2000-11-14 Thread brandon
Gang - I've just reimplemented rblsmtpd and have received requests to log seperately the hosts which are beign denied. A cursory scan of the log shows that I should be able to parse the log based on the 451 errors, but I am an unskilled scripter and cannot figure out how to further manipulate mu

Re: Startup Script

2000-11-14 Thread Charles Cazabon
Travis Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does any one Have a good startup script for qmail on RH 6.2 Linux. The one > that came with the "Running Qmail" book has some sort of error in it. The quality of that book has been questioned on this list and elsewhere. Try "Life with qmail" by Dave S

hello

2000-11-14 Thread Alexander Mardirossian
how do I erase the contents of the mailqueue! I put large mails by mistake for sending. Since I'm paying my traffic, i would like to erase all that is in the queue. How do i do that? Thank you!

Removing Delivered-To header

2000-11-14 Thread Peter Cavender
Hi- I have a qmail server hosting several virtual domains, and all mail delivered to recipients in the virtual domains have a Delivered-To header line indicating the "main" domain name of the server. I want to delete this line, and I understand that the -d option to preline is the way to do t

accessing $local in fastforward alias file

2000-11-14 Thread Tristan Graham
Hi, I need to implement forwarding of the form user@somedomain -> user@someotherdomain. i.e. the original user at the original domain is propagated to the forwarded domain. Are there any mystical variables that can be used within the alias file ? If anyone can help I would be most grateful,

Re: hello

2000-11-14 Thread Dave Sill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >how do I erase the contents of the mailqueue! I put large mails by >mistake for sending. Since I'm paying my traffic, i would like to >erase all that is in the queue. How do i do that? See: http://www.faqts.com/knowledge-base/view.phtml/aid/6567/fid/286/lang/en -Dav

Re: reg. qmail-qmqpd and qmail-qmtpd

2000-11-14 Thread Dave Sill
"RamKumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >i would like to know what qmail-qmqpd and qmail-qmtpd are used for? and >where i could get more information about the same. QMQP is the Quick Mail Queueing Protocol. QMTP is the Quick Mail Transfer Protocol. QMQP is used by clients of smart hosts to pawn o

Re: Antispam with authorization from POP3 server.

2000-11-14 Thread Dave Sill
"Michael A. Borisov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello. It is necessary to me to authorize everyone, who tries to send mail >through my SMTP server. I want to use for this purpose authorization of a >POP3 server. Sounds like you want SMTP-after-POP. I.e., users who successfully authenticate via

Re: How do I route to another host?

2000-11-14 Thread Dave Sill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >My qmail host, mail.sidell.org, is the MX host for domain sidell.org. >I have another host named lyris.sidell.org. (Actually, it's another >IP address on the same host, being handled by Lyris.) > >If I SMTP to mail.sidell.org and send a message addressed to >[EMAIL PROT

Re: Clear the queue of qmail

2000-11-14 Thread Dave Sill
"Pedro Pires" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Can anyone tell me how do i clear the queue of qmail? See: http://www.faqts.com/knowledge-base/view.phtml/aid/6567/fid/286/lang/en -Dave

Re: How do I route to another host?

2000-11-14 Thread mark
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 13:27:10 -0500, Dave Sill wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >My qmail host, mail.sidell.org, is the MX host for domain sidell.org. > >I have another host named lyris.sidell.org. (Actually, it's another > >IP address on the same host, being handled by Lyris.) > > > >If I

Re: accessing $local in fastforward alias file

2000-11-14 Thread Charles Cazabon
Tristan Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I need to implement forwarding of the form user@somedomain -> > user@someotherdomain. i.e. the original user at the original domain is > propagated to the forwarded domain. Are there any mystical variables that > can be used within the alias file ?

secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Mate Wierdl
I am reading this book by B. Schneier, in particular, the section `Cracking and hacking contests'. He thinks that contests (like offering $1000 for finding a security hole in a product) are bad for four main reasons, the first reason being that the contests are usually unfair since the author of

Personalising emails to lists and prohibited subjects in ezmlm-idx/qmail

2000-11-14 Thread Darren Honeyball
Hi, I'm running qmail-1.03, ezmlm-idx, verh patch, big concurrency patch. We have subscribers to morning, midday and afternoon bulletins that receive a single message with no personalisation. I'd like to send one-off email that are personalised (i.e. Dear Name-Here). My current set-up for this

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Dave Sill
Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am reading this book by B. Schneier, in particular, the section >`Cracking and hacking contests'. He thinks that contests (like >offering $1000 for finding a security hole in a product) are bad for >four main reasons, the first reason being that the cont

Re: accessing $local in fastforward alias file

2000-11-14 Thread Tristan Graham
Ok, I was a little reserved about calling another script due to performance issues, but if that is the only way then that will suffice... Many Thanks, Tristan Graham. At 13:01 14/11/2000 -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote: >Tristan Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I need to implement forw

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:39:25PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: > >So has any expert ever audited qmail or djbdns? > > No. Any audit worth doing would be prohibitively expensive for a > freeware project. $1000 wouldn't even begin to cover it, at least for > qmail. Not to mention that the whole point

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread anon-dns
At 11:49 AM -0800 on 11/14/00, Adam McKenna wrote: > It sounds like the author of this book is a M$-type weenie. No, I think not. He regularly publishes articles about weak encryption in Microsoft products. His perspective is just different than yours. See http://www.counterpane.com (especial

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Charles Cazabon
re: Schneier's commentary in Secrets and Lies Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He says, the best way to evaluate the security of a product is to have it > audited by security experts. > So has any expert ever audited qmail or djbdns? As Dave Sill pointed out, no formal security audit

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Ryan Russell
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Adam McKenna wrote: > Not to mention that the whole point of freeware and open source software in > general is to give everyone the ability to audit the software, not just a > select few. It sounds like the author of this book is a M$-type weenie. > Who, Bruce? Bwahaha...

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread markd
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 01:20:32PM -0600, Mate Wierdl wrote: > I am reading this book by B. Schneier, in particular, the section > `Cracking and hacking contests'. He thinks that contests (like > offering $1000 for finding a security hole in a product) are bad for > four main reasons, the first r

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Bennett Todd
> > >So has any expert ever audited qmail or djbdns? > > > > No. Any audit worth doing would be prohibitively expensive for a > > freeware project. $1000 wouldn't even begin to cover it, at > > least for qmail. Whoa, sure, it'd cost a load if you paid someone to do it, but open source has other

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Mate Wierdl
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:39:25PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: > >So has any expert ever audited qmail or djbdns? > > No. Any audit worth doing would be prohibitively expensive for a > freeware project. $1000 wouldn't even begin to cover it, at least for > qmail. I need to add that Schneier thinks o

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:49:34 -0500 From: Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not to mention that the whole point of freeware and open source software in general is to give everyone the ability to audit the software, not just a select few. It sounds like the author of this book is

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread markd
> Not to mention that the whole point of freeware and open source software in > general is to give everyone the ability to audit the software, not just a > select few. It sounds like the author of this book is a M$-type weenie. I don't think so. He's the author of perhaps the most popular book o

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Mate Wierdl
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:49:34PM -0500, Adam McKenna wrote: > Not to mention that the whole point of freeware and open source software in > general is to give everyone the ability to audit the software, not just a > select few. It sounds like the author of this book is a M$-type weenie. I cann

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Paul Jarc
Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:39:25PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: > > >So has any expert ever audited qmail or djbdns? > > > > No. Any audit worth doing would be prohibitively expensive for a > > freeware project. $1000 wouldn't even begin to cover it, at least

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 12:02:40PM -0800, Ryan Russell wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Adam McKenna wrote: > > > Not to mention that the whole point of freeware and open source software in > > general is to give everyone the ability to audit the software, not just a > > select few. It sounds like

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Matthias Andree
Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Not to mention that the whole point of freeware and open source software in > general is to give everyone the ability to audit the software, not just a > select few. It sounds like the author of this book is a M$-type weenie. Do you know Bruce Schneier

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Chris K. Young
Quoted from Adam McKenna [15 Nov 2000]: > Not to mention that the whole point of freeware and open source software in > general is to give everyone the ability to audit the software, not just a > select few. I agree with the general statement, but neither qmail nor djbdns are open source (I don't

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Mate Wierdl
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:01:07PM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote: > re: Schneier's commentary in Secrets and Lies > > Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > He says, the best way to evaluate the security of a product is to have it > > audited by security experts. > > So has any expert eve

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Gustavo Vieira Goncalves Coelho Rios
Mate Wierdl wrote: > > I am reading this book by B. Schneier, in particular, the section > `Cracking and hacking contests'. He thinks that contests (like > offering $1000 for finding a security hole in a product) are bad for > four main reasons, the first reason being that the contests are > usu

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Paul Jarc
Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So has any expert ever audited qmail or djbdns? I imagine Dan has, and many would consider him an expert, but one is rarely the best auditor of one's own work. paul

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Mate Wierdl
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 03:16:27PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: > Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > So has any expert ever audited qmail or djbdns? > > I imagine Dan has, and many would consider him an expert, but one is > rarely the best auditor of one's own work. Indeed, it would be inter

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-11-14-15:01:07 Charles Cazabon: > However, as far as qmail goes: all the crackers in the world have > had access to the qmail source code and design documentation for > years, and none have yet found an exploitable security hole. You > could consider that a fairly thorough audit-by-fire. And

Re: Startup Script

2000-11-14 Thread Roger Walker
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Travis Turner wrote: > Does any one Have a good startup script for qmail on RH 6.2 Linux. The one > that came with the "Running Qmail" book has some sort of error in it. It > basically gives me an error on startup that says line 14 error somewhere > around stop). I woul

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Paul Jarc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Whilst an audit is a good idea, I don't see how a competition and > time in the field can actual make matters worse. It can make people think a program is secure when no audit has been done, reducing the likelihood that anyone will call for an audit, leaving holes undi

RE: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Lipscomb, Al
> > He also thinks that even having a software out and used for a few > years without incidence does not imply that it is secure. He says, > the best way to evaluate the security of a product is to have it > audited by security experts. > There is no one right answer for this. Payment for a di

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Robin S. Socha
* Dave Sill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So has any expert ever audited qmail or djbdns? > No. Any audit worth doing would be prohibitively expensive for a > freeware project. $1000 wouldn't even begin to cover it, at least for > qmail. Doesn't the fac

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-11-14-15:07:28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > [Bruce Schneier is] the author of perhaps the most popular book on > computer security that's available to the public. Which book are you referring to? "Secrets and Lies"? While it's a powerful contribution in the way of standing back and re-examining the

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-11-14-15:11:43 Paul Jarc: > Only the "select few" will be able to audit it well, regardless of > the license, and they can afford to charge a hefty fee, regardless > of the license. They certainly can. They do not always choose to do so, however. If enough people really wanted to get a deter

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am reading this book by B. Schneier, in particular, the section > `Cracking and hacking contests'. He thinks that contests (like offering > $1000 for finding a security hole in a product) are bad for four main > reasons, the first reason being that the

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OK, I stand corrected. But you have to realize that this is the same > argument put forward by many people pushing closed source solutions over > open source ones (that it has been analyzed by "experts"), and > invariably many security holes are found a

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 03:11:43PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: > Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Not to mention that the whole point of freeware and open source software in > > general is to give everyone the ability to audit the software, not just a > > select few. > > Dan's software is

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Travis Turner
I am going to go out on a limb here and declare Bruce a non-M$ weenie. It took guts I tell you. Regards, Travis At 03:11 PM 11/14/2000 -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: >Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:39:25PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: > > > >So has any expert ever

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 09:11:32PM +0100, Matthias Andree wrote: > Mr. Schneier is respected for his expertise and cryptography, and just > because he states that head money for bugs is no good, does not make him > an M S type weenie. You're right, Bruce Scheiner is a god, and I'm really sorry fo

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-11-14-15:11:55 Adam McKenna: > But you have to realize that this is the same argument put forward > by many people pushing closed source solutions over open source > ones (that it has been analyzed by "experts"), and invariably many > security holes are found anyway. Again, it helps to under

RE: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Lipscomb, Al
> I agree with the general statement, but neither qmail nor djbdns are > open source (I don't know the definition of ``freeware'', so I'll > leave it alone). I believe (without further justification) that a > piece of software without general modification permissions does not > really inspire impr

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Mate Wierdl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Not really. There are many examples to the contrary---quoted in the > book. For example, there were buffer overflows discovered in Kerberos > which had been in the code for 10 years, or Mailman had glaring > security flows no one noticed for three ye

Re: Startup Script

2000-11-14 Thread Greg Cope
Travis Turner wrote: > > Does any one Have a good startup script for qmail on RH 6.2 Linux. The one > that came with the "Running Qmail" book has some sort of error in it. It > basically gives me an error on startup that says line 14 error somewhere > around stop). I would appreciate the help

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Mate Wierdl
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 12:04:46PM -0800, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: > Bruce Schneier is a very long way from being an ``M$-type weenie.'' > He's a pretty serious security dude. See, e.g., > http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram.html. Indeed, he is using ezmlm (idx!) for his newsletter. So he

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Ryan Russell
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Mate Wierdl wrote: > Indeed, it would be interesting what kind of testing he is running on > qmail, say (he says there are over 100 tests), and how he is trying to > make sure his software is secure. If you want to see some of the tests he does, check out rts.tests that com

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Mate Wierdl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Indeed, it would be interesting what kind of testing he is running on > qmail, say (he says there are over 100 tests), and how he is trying to > make sure his software is secure. Perhaps his closed to the public > cryptography course notes would give

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 03:35:35PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Whilst an audit is a good idea, I don't see how a competition and > > time in the field can actual make matters worse. > > It can make people think a program is secure when no audit has been > done, reducin

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread markd
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 03:35:35PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Whilst an audit is a good idea, I don't see how a competition and > > time in the field can actual make matters worse. > > It can make people think a program is secure when no audit has been > done, reducin

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread markd
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 04:13:19PM -0500, Bennett Todd wrote: > 2000-11-14-15:07:28 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > [Bruce Schneier is] the author of perhaps the most popular book on > > computer security that's available to the public. > > Which book are you referring to? "Secrets and Lies"? While it's a

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Robin S. Socha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > No. Any audit worth doing would be prohibitively expensive for a > > freeware project. $1000 wouldn't even begin to cover it, at least for > > qmail. > Doesn't the fact that they are included in OpenBSD (as ports) hint at > the fact that some of t

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread dreamwvr
hi, Agreed seems IMHO that ifone wanted to smear djb they would do it as soon as they had the evidence and they have tried and so far failed to provide evidence that the specific proggies are flawed. Whereas some of the add ons have been shown to be.. One of the reasons am interested in rollin

RE: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Lipscomb, Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 14 November 2000 at 15:37:51 -0500 > Security "experts" are a dime a dozen. That's certainly true. I've actually testified in court on the topic, which goes to show how desperate people get sometimes. (I suspect I know more relevant stuff than quite

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-11-14-16:24:36 Adam McKenna: > Bruce Scheiner is a god, [...] It's possible you're being sarcastic, but there are those who would very nearly agree with you. While he may not actually be a god, he is certainly the single most important contributor to getting really top notch crypto out of re

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Andre Oppermann
Paul Jarc wrote: > > Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > So has any expert ever audited qmail or djbdns? > > I imagine Dan has, and many would consider him an expert, but one is > rarely the best auditor of one's own work. I, as the author of the qmail-ldap patch, have looked deeply int

Alias - .qmail-default

2000-11-14 Thread Expert
Hi, My .qmail-default have the line: | /var/qmail/bin/fastforward -d /etc/aliases.cdb. The /etc/aliases have the line: MAILER-DAEMON: admin . I'm receiving a lot of emails from someone trying to spam me but, the accounts that the spamer is trying to spam doesn't exists so, the qmail send

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 06:22:27PM -0500, Bennett Todd wrote: > 2000-11-14-16:24:36 Adam McKenna: > > Bruce Scheiner is a god, [...] > > It's possible you're being sarcastic, but there are those who would > very nearly agree with you. While he may not actually be a god, he > is certainly the sing

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-11-14-16:37:06 Lipscomb, Al: > Open Source is often used to describe software that has its source > code available regardless of the license involved. Could be, people use words as they wish. But if you'll take a visit to http://www.opensource.org/>, you'll find that the term was very specif

Personalising emails to lists and prohibited subjects in ezmlm-idx/qmail

2000-11-14 Thread Darren Honeyball
Hi, I'm running qmail-1.03, ezmlm-idx, verh patch, big concurrency patch. We have subscribers to morning, midday and afternoon bulletins that receive a single message with no personalisation. I'd like to send one-off email that are personalised (i.e. Dear Name-Here). My current set-up for this

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Chris K. Young
Quoted from Lipscomb, Al [15 Nov 2000]: > Open Source is often used to describe software that has its source code > available regardless of the license involved. Just because it's ``often'' done doesn't mean it's correct. To me, and possibly others, open source is used to describe software that u

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Bennett Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could be, people use words as they wish. But if you'll take a visit to > http://www.opensource.org/>, you'll find that the term was very > specifically drafted by a group of people with an agenda, and they've > produced a branding service based on an Ope

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread markd
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 01:14:15PM +1300, Chris K. Young wrote: > Quoted from Lipscomb, Al [15 Nov 2000]: > > Open Source is often used to describe software that has its source code > > available regardless of the license involved. > > Just because it's ``often'' done doesn't mean it's correct. T

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 01:14:15PM +1300, Chris K. Young wrote: > Quoted from Lipscomb, Al [15 Nov 2000]: > > Open Source is often used to describe software that has its source code > > available regardless of the license involved. > > Just because it's ``often'' done doesn't mean it's correct. T

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Ryan Russell
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm confused. How exactly does any of this affect the ability of people > to download the source and examine/use it to determine if it's secure > or not? After all, wasn't that the point of the discussion? > Some folks who are capable of doing good

User mail delivery statistics

2000-11-14 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Hi, I'm currently using a single address for all my list mail, and I run procmail to filter the emails to their respective mail folders. I'd like to switch to separate addresses (one per list) and filter the mails with .qmail-listname files. However, the reason I've not yet changed is that I ha

accepting and delivering locally for a different IP ...

2000-11-14 Thread wolfgang zeikat
how can i make qmail accept mails for user@[123.123.123.123] when the machine 123.123.123.123 forwards all mails to our qmail server? wolfgang

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Mate Wierdl
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 01:21:03PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > He's not alone in that opinion; I think that opinion has a lot of merit, > although I wouldn't go so far as to say that such contests are *bad*. But > I don't think they actually prove anything. Exactly Schneier's opinion: contests

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Mate Wierdl
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 11:25:27PM +0100, Felix von Leitner wrote: > Thus spake Mate Wierdl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > make sure his software is secure. Perhaps his closed to the public > > cryptography course notes would give a hint. > > Mate, what kind of problem do you have? > What does qmail h

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Nathan J. Mehl
In the immortal words of Adam McKenna ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > It sounds like the author of this book is a M$-type weenie. Bruce Schneier, "M$-type weenie." God I'm glad I wasn't trying to eat or drink anything when I read that... "That would be `no.'" -n

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 14 November 2000 at 15:57:34 -0600 > On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 12:04:46PM -0800, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: > > Bruce Schneier is a very long way from being an ``M$-type weenie.'' > > He's a pretty serious security dude. See, e.g., > > http://www.count

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Chris Olson
Ryan Russell wrote: > If you want to see some of the tests he does, check out rts.tests that > comes in the djbdns distribution. I happened to be looking at that last > night. It's far from a complete security audit, of course, but it does > try out a lot of the obvious stuff. It would probab

Help Required .....

2000-11-14 Thread RamKumar
My proposed setup is something like this. clients connect for smtp and pop to this machine mach1. When i receive a mail from remote or from local, it goes through the usual routine of checking for receipt host and other things and writes to the qmail queue. From the queue the mail has to be

RE: Help Required .....

2000-11-14 Thread Charles Warwick
You can use the smtproutes control file to send domains on to another machine from the queue.   eg:   echo domain.com:[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx{ >> /var/qmail/control/smtproutes   where domain.com is the domain to send to machine2 and xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP address of machine2   Regards,   Charl

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Mate Wierdl
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 04:13:19PM -0500, Bennett Todd wrote: > efforts is on monitoring and risk management. With that as a given, > I expect he runs sendmail and BIND; things like qmail and djbdns are > for those of us who haven't given up on really completely securing > our systems:-). First I

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Chris K. Young
Quoted from Adam McKenna [15 Nov 2000]: > On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 01:14:15PM +1300, Chris K. Young wrote: > > ``The [licence] must > > explicitly permit distribution of software built from modified source ^^ > > code.''. > > qmail conf

DFSG and DJB (was Re: secrets and lies)

2000-11-14 Thread Greg Hudson
> Allowing patches is necessary, but it's not sufficient. Debian's > Free Software Guidelines has a similar clause, and I see no other > clause that DJB's licence conflicts with. If I go by your statement, > why is qmail listed under the non-free section? Ability to distribute binaries built from