Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-06 Thread Jake Vickers
Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Interesting. I don't buy that using an IP address is necessarily the best practice though. Here are my thoughts on this. It does not matter so much these days, but it used to be best practice for multi-domain machines that

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-06 Thread Lucian Cristian
quote It also can cause less problems in the corporate world if some brighter-than-normal person performs a telnet session and finds that you're not only running their email, but a competitor's as well or other similar situation. I liked this answer so much because I have a situation like

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-06 Thread Jake Vickers
Lucian Cristian wrote: quote It also can cause less problems in the corporate world if some brighter-than-normal person performs a telnet session and finds that you're not only running their email, but a competitor's as well or other similar situation. I liked this answer so much because I

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-05 Thread Jake Vickers
Eric Shubert wrote: Interesting. I don't buy that using an IP address is necessarily the best practice though. Here are my thoughts on this. It does not matter so much these days, but it used to be best practice for multi-domain machines that accept mail. The reason being that when a

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-05 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Interesting. I don't buy that using an IP address is necessarily the best practice though. Here are my thoughts on this. It does not matter so much these days, but it used to be best practice for multi-domain machines that accept mail. The reason

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-04 Thread Lucian Cristian
Around three years ago I had some mail rejected because the greeting contained another domain name, maybe the destination had a very strict spam filter, and after changing it to ip the mail was accepted, I remember testing a lot with dnsstuff and following their advices Lucian Eric Shubert

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-04 Thread Eric Shubert
Interesting. I don't buy that using an IP address is necessarily the best practice though. Here are my thoughts on this. First, from rfc2821 (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2821.txt): quote One important reply is the connection greeting. Normally, a receiver will send a 220 Service ready

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-03 Thread Adam Glass
Here's the entire error message. The info on conf files I read said to put the IP in the me file if using multiple virtual hosts. For the other files it always said me or... and then whatever went in that file. So I thought that meant to put the word me in the file. Maybe it means to just

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-03 Thread Eric Shubert
The receiving server doesn't like the host name it's seeing in the smtp session. You haven't told me (that I see) Adam Glass wrote: Here's the entire error message. The info on conf files I read said to put the IP in the me file if using multiple virtual hosts. For the other files it always

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-03 Thread Eric Shubert
Please ignore the first part, Adam. I meant to delete it. Eric Shubert wrote: ignored Adam Glass wrote: Here's the entire error message. The info on conf files I read said to put the IP in the me file if using multiple virtual hosts. For the other files it always said me or... and then

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-03 Thread Adam Glass
Telnet to port 25 confirms it just shows pmcawab. The challenge is that there are two domains, awabllc.com and parkermerrick.com. If I put one of those in smtpgreeting will there be a problem sending mail from the other domain? Should I put the IP address there instead of a host and

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-03 Thread Lucian Cristian
best practice is to use: [ip] including [] Regards Lucian Adam Glass wrote: Telnet to port 25 confirms it just shows pmcawab. The challenge is that there are two domains, awabllc.com and parkermerrick.com. If I put one of those in smtpgreeting will there be a problem sending mail from the

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-03 Thread Eric Shubert
Adam Glass wrote: Telnet to port 25 confirms it just shows pmcawab. The challenge is that there are two domains, awabllc.com and parkermerrick.com. If I put one of those in smtpgreeting will there be a problem sending mail from the other domain? Not that I've ever seen. Should I put the IP

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-03 Thread Eric Shubert
Where'd you get that info from? What if your server is on a dynamic IP address??? Lucian Cristian wrote: best practice is to use: [ip] including [] Regards Lucian Adam Glass wrote: Telnet to port 25 confirms it just shows pmcawab. The challenge is that there are two domains, awabllc.com

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-03 Thread Lucian Cristian
usually I don't use dynamic :) there was a guide on http://www.dnsstuff.com/ (back when it was free) and best practice for multiple domains was to use the ip address in the greeteing, Lucian Eric Shubert wrote: Where'd you get that info from? What if your server is on a dynamic IP

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-03 Thread Eric Shubert
I can't imagine why that would be considered best practice, except maybe to save a DNS lookup. Certainly doesn't work with dynamic addresses. :( Lucian Cristian wrote: usually I don't use dynamic :) there was a guide on http://www.dnsstuff.com/ (back when it was free) and best practice for

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-03 Thread Lucian Cristian
you can check for current ip by cron (I do this on some servers, never use dynamic on mail servers) and replace it , the file can be modified any time Lucian Eric Shubert wrote: I can't imagine why that would be considered best practice, except maybe to save a DNS lookup. Certainly doesn't

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-03 Thread Eric Shubert
That'd be simple enough to do for dynamic addresses. Still begs the question, why is this considered best practice? There must be a reason of some sort. If it's best practice for servers with multiple domains, why wouldn't it also be best practice for servers with only one domain? I'm

[qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-02 Thread Adam Glass
Hello, We are running qmail toaster with two virtual domain names. We can send mail to most addresses, but now have run into a recipient who rejects our messages. The key phrase in the error message is need fully qualified hostname. I think the problem is that some control files have just the

Re: [qmailtoaster] Fully qualified hostname with multiple domain names

2009-10-02 Thread Eric Shubert
Adam Glass wrote: Hello, We are running qmail toaster with two virtual domain names. We can send mail to most addresses, but now have run into a recipient who rejects our messages. The key phrase in the error message is need fully qualified hostname. What is the entire error message? Is