Re: [QUAD-L] "scientific proof" & "junk science"

2004-10-13 Thread Boyd Jenkins
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] "scientific proof" & "junk science" Ya’ can’t win ‘em all! Boyd On 10/13/04 1:57 PM, "william Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been voting in presidential elections for the    past 40 years.  This will be the very first time I have ever    v

Re: [QUAD-L] Life in the Slow Lane

2004-10-13 Thread Boyd Jenkins
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Life in the Slow Lane Thanks for the kind comments on my occasional posts Wheel, but think of all the beard, toe and fingernail clipping I’d have to do in a thousand years! Boyd --- On 10/13/04 7:31 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [QUAD-L] American eagle

2004-10-13 Thread Boyd Jenkins
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] American eagle Keep ‘em straight Stacy. Boyd On 10/13/04 1:42 AM, "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That is a hoax.  It is at www.snopes.com .   There is not passage in the Islamic bible that says that. Stacy  

Re: [QUAD-L] RE: Bush plays the game of being.....

2004-10-13 Thread Boyd Jenkins
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] RE:  Bush plays the game of being. I realize that there’s nothing funny about your situation, but are we to understand from these figures that your first sexual experience at age nineteen (19), poduced triplets prior to your twentieth (20th) birthday? Or perhaps you ad

[QUAD-L] Re: Infection and swelling

2004-10-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all, i just have a question, I have an infection in my elbow and my whole arm has swelled up. I am on 2 antibiotics and the doc has drained it once with a needle, which has helped a little. Tomorrow I have an Dr's apt and he may have to put me on an IV which means being hospitalized for 3 to

RE: [QUAD-L] Re: the President

2004-10-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stuntman; You must be fun to live with, you always have to have the last word. Ha Ha! Well, I'm going to go watch the last debate. C-ya Meredith

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: the President

2004-10-13 Thread Oconnelldb
"He is a lying opportunist.Meathead moore is no better.Stuntman"    don't sugar coat it stuntman, tell us what you REALLY think. dave   In a message dated 10/13/2004 5:59:54 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kerry is using his short 4 mo in Nam to try to make his ca

[QUAD-L] Fw: So Close to a Big Win on a Difficult Day

2004-10-13 Thread Stacy Harim
Title: Action Network Newsletter   Stacy   "People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy yourself" - Original Message - From: Christopher Reeve Action Network To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:22 AM Subject: So Close to a Big Win on

RE: ***Possible Spam*** [QUAD-L] Re: Infection and swelling

2004-10-13 Thread Eric W Rudd
I had osteomylitis (bone infection) and had vancomycin twice a day...they did it outpatient. Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ***Possible Spam*** [Q

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: Infection and swelling

2004-10-13 Thread Stacy Harim
Can your doctor set you up with home health to keep you out of the hospital.  We have that option here if covered. Stacy   "People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy yourself" - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Se

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-13 Thread Stacy Harim
Mark,   I'm curious to know what made you swing over to Bush's side. Stacy   "People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy yourself" - Original Message - From: Stuntman To: QuadPirate ; Stuntman ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PR

Re: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game of being Christian

2004-10-13 Thread Stacy Harim
Still not judging here so I hope that people are not labeling me as judging.  I stated the facts.  I tried to do a search on the statistics on blacks and whites collecting government assistance to compare to the numbers that you pulled up, but came up empty handed so far so I will not specu

[QUAD-L] Brant

2004-10-13 Thread val cleroux
Category five is the wiring required for home automated living... I have a separate computer in my basement that has been wired to the speakers in my ceiling in order to operate my home by voice. When the telephone rings the speakers automatically tell me who is calling, all I need to do is open t

[QUAD-L] shakes

2004-10-13 Thread val cleroux
Mark. thanks for the response, it just tells me that I'm not the only one! Val Cleroux Communication is the key to success

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-13 Thread Stuntman
There are many problems with embryonic stem cells including tumors and cellular rejection that are no problem when using ones own adult stem cells. Therefore the justification for spending money on research for the one with more known problems instead of the one with fewer problems has a logic

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic ....

2004-10-13 Thread Stuntman
Hm, One can get about 75% to vote for almost anything by bias in a poll. No methodology, didn't quote the question, were people informed of the definition of what was being termed as a "discarded embryo"? The fact Kerry supports almost every side of an issue during this campaign s

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-13 Thread Jim Lubin
At 04:22 PM 10/11/2004, QuadPirate wrote: I don't know exactly where life begins but the majority of Americans think this isn't it but we didn't get a choice to vote on this. Where do you draw the line? You know sperm's only purpose is to make human life so is it immoral to masterbate? Because if

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Commun...

2004-10-13 Thread Jim Lubin
At 03:18 PM 10/13/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   i understand also that bone marrow and baby teeth are sources for stem cells.  we could be supplying our own stem cells before this is done- permission from the doner will be easily obtained.  unfortuatey, we are going to need a few more celebs t

RE: [QUAD-L] "scientific proof" & "junk science"

2004-10-13 Thread Mark Felling
Title: Message Thank you for sharing the good links Jim!   Mark Felling  -Original Message-From: Jim Lubin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:18 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Stuntman'Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] "scientific proof" &

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Commun...

2004-10-13 Thread Oconnelldb
jim, i'm still pondering your comment that when we look for signs of life on mars, we're looking for microbs and such.  interesting thought and very similar to a zygote.  i understand also that bone marrow and baby teeth are sources for stem cells.  we could be supplying our own stem cells

Re: [QUAD-L] Testimony on Stem Cells by Harold Varmus, M. D.

2004-10-13 Thread QuadPirate
Jim I've already read all of the testimony. I posted this to show that there is proof for further research as this testimony shows and was addressed. This was not to debate Bush's position it was posted to show the truth about Stem Cell research. It repeatedly states throughout this testimony

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-13 Thread QuadPirate
Fair enough.   Mark    ---Original Message---   From: Jim Lubin Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 4:05:19 PM To: QuadPirate; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stuntman Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards  My personal bel

RE: [QUAD-L] The Hair Conspiracy

2004-10-13 Thread Eric W Rudd
And how can you assure this? Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 4:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [QUAD-L] The Hair Conspiracy I can assure you that his butt hairs were intact, when

Re: [QUAD-L] Testimony on Stem Cells by Harold Varmus, M. D.

2004-10-13 Thread Jim Lubin
At 02:00 PM 10/13/2004, QuadPirate wrote:   Testimony on Stem Cells by Harold Varmus, M. D. Director, National Institutes of Health December 2, 1998 http://www.hhs.gov/asl/testify/t981202a.html This is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth told to the Senate. That seems to backup

[QUAD-L] The Hair Conspiracy

2004-10-13 Thread wheelchair
I can assure you that his butt hairs were intact, when he passed. But that wasn't shown in the photos, lol. W In a message dated 10/13/04 10:10:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << It's one thing to lose the hair on your scalp, but he lost ALL of his hair, eyebrows, eyelashes, etc. I speculate

[QUAD-L] The President of the United States of America

2004-10-13 Thread wheelchair
Both men would serve as excellent Presidents, but when it comes to politics, and you want to win THAT PRIZED position you have to take a tiny flaw and enlarge it to demonstrate the difference between candidates. When happens at the Federal Elections always seems to work its way down to school b

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-13 Thread Jim Lubin
My personal belief (at this point in time) is that an embryo created in a petri dish is only a clump of cells and only a potential human life. My personal belief is that an embryo is not a human life unless and until it is growing in a human female uterus. That being said, since humanity has yet

[QUAD-L] Testimony on Stem Cells by Harold Varmus, M. D.

2004-10-13 Thread QuadPirate
  Testimony on Stem Cells by Harold Varmus, M. D. Director, National Institutes of HealthU.S. Department of Health and Human Services Before the Senate Appropriations Committee, Subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services, Education and Related Agencies December 2, 1998 http://www.hhs.g

Re: [QUAD-L] Christopher Reeves / Go ahead yell at me now

2004-10-13 Thread Greg
I don't think you can be so quick to judge. First, you can get a small sore very quickly, just sitting in a seat on a plane for 4 hours and not getting a good pressure release, having a small hole in your cushion and not know until the end of the day, etc. And even a small sore can get an inf

Re: [QUAD-L] PBS Poll on gay marriage

2004-10-13 Thread River Wolfe
Thanks Rosie !! On Oct 13, 2004, at 4:35 PM, Rosie Bennett wrote: PBS is running a poll on gay marriage for Bill Moyers' "Now" program. If you're so inclined, please pass this along and vote  from your computer. http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll_036.html Rosie www.cafepress.com/anandarose

[QUAD-L] PBS Poll on gay marriage

2004-10-13 Thread Rosie Bennett
PBS is running a poll on gay marriage for Bill Moyers' "Now" program. If you're so inclined, please pass this along and vote  from your computer. http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll_036.html Rosie www.cafepress.com/anandarose www.homepage.mac.com/rosiebennett

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-13 Thread QuadPirate
Here you go.    HOUSTON – A large majority of Americans support the use of discarded embryos for stem cell research, according to a poll commissioned by the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston. Advertisement The nationwide poll of attitudes about health and healt

RE: [QUAD-L] "scientific proof" & "junk science"

2004-10-13 Thread Jim Lubin
At 11:12 AM 10/13/2004, Mark Felling wrote: You are entitled to your opinion, however if that is true then  many professionals most likely much more knowledgeable than you or I are lying to us all, not Kerry. He is simply listening to, and repeating what the research scientists and other profess

Fw: Fw: [QUAD-L] RE: Bush plays the game of being.....

2004-10-13 Thread William Willis
Well said, Dave.   - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 2:34 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [QUAD-L] RE: Bush plays the game of being. this is why communism doesn't work as well.  any time you have a pot into which all th

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-13 Thread QuadPirate
Exactly Jim they are property!   Mark    ---Original Message---   From: Jim Lubin Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:39:00 PM To: QuadPirate; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic Reaction to: Communist Part

RE: [QUAD-L] "scientific proof" & "junk science"

2004-10-13 Thread QuadPirate
Thanks Mark for putting it more elegant than me. I'm just a good ol boy but this is what I've been trying to say. Perfect!   Mark    ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:12:01 PM To: 'Stuntman' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [QUAD-L

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-13 Thread QuadPirate
Jim it's pointless to argue about this you obviously think an embryo is a human life. Given that isn't it more respectful to use these soon to be destroyed embryos and use them to in a more respectful manner than to destroy and gain nothing for their life. This would make their so called lif

Re: [QUAD-L] "scientific proof" & "junk science"

2004-10-13 Thread william Ray
I could not agree with you more!  I have been voting in presidential elections for the past 40 years.  This will be the very first time I have ever voted for a Democratic candidate for presidency.Bill Ray C -4 - Original Message - From: Mark Felling To: 'Stuntman' Cc: [

Re: Fw: [QUAD-L] RE: Bush plays the game of being.....

2004-10-13 Thread Oconnelldb
this is why communism doesn't work as well.  any time you have a pot into which all those who can, put something in, and all those who can't - take something out, contributors find no reward for working hard and the withdrawers find no penalty for sitting on their butts.  all groups insure

RE: [QUAD-L] "scientific proof" & "junk science"

2004-10-13 Thread Mark Felling
I do not necessarily like Kerry, but given the alternative I do believe Bush is much worse. I could not help but address each of your comments individually... Snip - "There is no ban on embryonic stem research." Almost all funding for basic research comes from government funded sources. It is wh

RE: [QUAD-L] American eagle

2004-10-13 Thread Cameron Wallace
Title: Message S It would have been nice, but it did seem a tad convenient C -Original Message-From: Stacy Harim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 2:43 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] American eagle That is

Re: [QUAD-L] Christopher Reeves / Go ahead yell at me now

2004-10-13 Thread Smurfonwheels
In a message dated 13/10/2004 14:09:15 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Me and my wife think something is fishy here.  His hair began falling out in patches.  How does a quad w/ privates nurses up and die of a pressure sore with no mention of it or it getting worse? That'

RE: [QUAD-L] Re: the President

2004-10-13 Thread QuadPirate
Well said Steve I agree.   Mark   ---Original Message---   From: Steve Oldaker Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:00:58 AM To: 'River Wolfe'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'quad' Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Re: the President  The President is evil and heartless? Come on... It's one thing todisagree

Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards

2004-10-13 Thread QuadPirate
Stuntman Bush has banned Federal money on The majority of stem cells I never said there was a ban on research. My problem is his way of thinking. For example, did you know more embryos are lost by a natural pregnancy than in vitro fertilization? In vitro fertilization has a better success rat

Re: [QUAD-L] Christopher Reeve

2004-10-13 Thread william Ray
Wonderfully stated, I could not agree more and I am very appreciative of all his efforts.Bill Ray C -4 - Original Message - From: William Willis To: hey-guys Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:12 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Christopher Reeve Christopher Reeve accomp

[QUAD-L] ~pt.2~DONKEY TRACKS" ~~ from: The White Donkey Society

2004-10-13 Thread Jwmjimmy
  ~pt.2~DONKEY TRACKS" ~~    ~TRAILS OF LIVING~   BE A GENIUS...BE PATIENT!Is patience difficult for you? A man in Los Angeles, California was arrested for negligent discharge of a weapon after shooting his toilet bowl five times with a 38 caliber handgun. He claims that he just

[QUAD-L] ~pt. 1~DONKEY TRACKS" ~~ from: The White Donkey Society

2004-10-13 Thread Jwmjimmy
  ~pt. 1~DONKEY TRACKS" ~~from: The White Donkey SocietyOctomber 3, 2004 ~TRAILS of INSPIRATION~   Hello God http://www.rogueforum.com/hellogod.htm "EaglesFlight" http://www.riversongs.com/Flas/native.html       ~TRAILS of WISDOM~   The limits of the possible can only

RE: [QUAD-L] Re: the President

2004-10-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bush got where is because of his Daddy, and yes it is evil to war on a country and BS the American public while doing it. Meredith

Fw: [QUAD-L] RE: Bush plays the game of being.....

2004-10-13 Thread William Willis
It took me five years to pay the hospital bill for the birth of my daughter 13 years ago. I have two female acquaintances who quit school, proceeded to have three and four kids respectively, and have never paid a cent for medical care. They currently getevery benefit available and are trying

Fw: [QUAD-L] American eagle

2004-10-13 Thread William Willis
Title: American eagle You are absolutely right. I looked up that particular sura and verse and it isn't even remotely related. Similar nonsense has been circulated about Nostradamus and Edgar Cayce for years. It makes for interesting conversation, but is entirely rubbish.  Larry Willis Fro

RE: [QUAD-L] Christopher Reeve

2004-10-13 Thread Steve Oldaker
Title: Message Larry...   Extremely well stated!   Steve -Original Message-From: William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:12 AMTo: hey-guysSubject: [QUAD-L] Christopher Reeve Christopher Reeve accomplished more in the last nine years

[QUAD-L] Christopher Reeve

2004-10-13 Thread William Willis
Christopher Reeve accomplished more in the last nine years than most people do in a lifetime, despite unreal suffering and overwhelming odds. He authored books, directed and acted in movies, and worked relentlessly as a speaker and advocate. In his situation, despite the money and fame, I wou

RE: [QUAD-L] The Hair Conspiracy

2004-10-13 Thread Steve Oldaker
It's one thing to lose the hair on your scalp, but he lost ALL of his hair, eyebrows, eyelashes, etc. I speculate that he tried or was trying some type of experimental treatment(s) that resulted in his hair loss. Steve > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: [QUAD-L] Re: the President

2004-10-13 Thread Steve Oldaker
The President is evil and heartless? Come on... It's one thing to disagree with the political leanings of one political candidate versus another, but why must some feel the need to demonize those they disagree with politically? The liberal left hate Bush the way the conservative right hated Clin

Re: [QUAD-L] Christopher Reeves / Go ahead yell at me now

2004-10-13 Thread River Wolfe
what would it be ? I mean what and why would they hide something? River On Oct 12, 2004, at 7:58 PM, Eric W Rudd wrote: Me and my wife think something is fishy here.  His hair began falling out in patches.  How does a quad w/ privates nurses up and die of a pressure sore with no mention of it 

RE: [QUAD-L] Christopher Reeves / Go ahead yell at me now

2004-10-13 Thread Eric W Rudd
Title: Message Me and my wife think something is fishy here.  His hair began falling out in patches.  How does a quad w/ privates nurses up and die of a pressure sore with no mention of it or it getting worse?     Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROT

Re: [QUAD-L] Re: the President

2004-10-13 Thread River Wolfe
I heard the author of this read it on Airamericaradio.com, the Al Franken show. Needless to say it moved me. I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of our current "Commander of grief" RIver On Oct 12, 2004, at 9:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: River, Thank you for printing that soulful de

[QUAD-L] Living In America- Hey- I feel good !

2004-10-13 Thread wheelchair
Again I say, "Its not where ya been, but where you are heading and the results you are achieving that impresses me." W In a message dated 10/13/04 8:57:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << IN RESPONSE TO: "I never mentioned color in my post because I know it's not just black women that do it, h

Re: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game of being Christian

2004-10-13 Thread STILSOULVIVEN
IN REPONSE TO: "I never mentioned color in my post because I know it's not just black women that do it, however they are the majority when it comes to that.  I realize what you are saying, but it's wrong no matter what color you are and having all these children knowing you don't have an honest way

[QUAD-L] The Hair Conspiracy

2004-10-13 Thread wheelchair
Nerve damage, meds and chemistry will/can affect hair. Stress is another element. Did you know that Mr. Reeve's father was bald. and so was his mother. (lol) I wouldn't try to read too much into it. W In a message dated 10/13/04 8:09:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Me and my wife think

RE: [QUAD-L] Christopher Reeves / Go ahead yell at me now

2004-10-13 Thread Eric W Rudd
Title: Message Me and my wife think something is fishy here.  His hair began falling out in patches.  How does a quad w/ privates nurses up and die of a pressure sore with no mention of it or it getting worse?     Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROT

[QUAD-L] Life in the Slow Lane

2004-10-13 Thread wheelchair
Thanks Mr. Boyd. That is why I think so highly of your opinions. May you continue to live 1000 years! W In a message dated 10/12/04 8:00:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It bothers me somewhat however, that some among us seem to harbour negative feelings about a good and honorable notable who,

Re: [QUAD-L] Its been a tough Month........

2004-10-13 Thread b.hickey
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic Reaction to:  Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards Thank You everyone for the kind words, thoughts and prayers.   Life does go on but death is some kind of wake-up call.   I have promised myself to keep living my life to the full

Re: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game of being Christian

2004-10-13 Thread Stacy Harim
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Bush plays the game of being Christian You didn't.  He replied to me and I had no mention or did anyone else about a minority receiving any more than anyone else. Stacy   "People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy yourself" - Original Mes