RE: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-20 Thread RollinOn
Excellent thoughts Stunt! Mark Jackson RollinOn _ From: Quadius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:51 PM To: Tim Thompson Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] after death Those are great comments Stunt. We share some similar beliefs

Re: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-19 Thread Quadius
I hope you had a decent anniversary. Quadius On 4/18/07, Tim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After JC taught the civilized world through example on how to live, we've been left to live our lives with freedom of choice. Intervention would prevent that. The night after my accident, 4/19/96, I

Re: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-19 Thread Quadius
Those are great comments Stunt. We share some similar beliefs here. Quadius On 4/19/07, Quadius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you had a decent anniversary. Quadius On 4/18/07, Tim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After JC taught the civilized world through example on how to live, we've

Re: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-18 Thread Tim Thompson
After JC taught the civilized world through example on how to live, we've been left to live our lives with freedom of choice. Intervention would prevent that. The night after my accident, 4/19/96, I laid in bed thinking it would be a good time to check out. A voice boomed through my head saying

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-17 Thread delimited4
Your problem is obvious. You don't hate the right people. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] After death Angie, What about those of us who weren't in an accident

Re: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-17 Thread delimited4
was so afraid of public arguements that when critisized he often wouldn't attend public functions for years. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:09 PM Subject: RE: Re: [QUAD-L] after death Mike, very

RE: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-16 Thread Silas Shelburne
LOL. That's what worries me about hell, just think of who's there that I'm going to spend eternity with. Silas From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 2:25 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] After death There better be a Heaven

RE: Re: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-16 Thread RollinOn
To: Mike Murach; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: Re: [QUAD-L] after death Mike, very interesting post... good work Mike Murach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. SMART SCIENTIFIC PEOPLE BELIEVE TOO… Nicholas Copernicus (1473-1543) Copernicus was the Polish astronomer who put forward

RE: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-16 Thread RollinOn
Yea but we’ll have the best band! Wasn’t Hitler a Christian? Mark Jackson RollinOn _ From: Silas Shelburne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] After death LOL. That’s what

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-16 Thread Angie Novak
Your paperwork probably got lost, too. I don't think, and would certainly never want to imply, that an accident resulting in a SCI is anyway more significant than paralysis as the result of an illness. Paralysis is paralysis, and I hope I didn't make you think that I hold how it happens in

RE: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-16 Thread Angie Novak
think of who’s there that I’m going to spend eternity with. Silas From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 2:25 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] After death There better be a Heaven and a Hell. If I end up sitting

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2007-04-16 Thread William Willis
That's Rabbi Kushner, I think. If I remember right, he said God was there to sustain us when we call upon him, not to do favors or answer requests. God's will is fiction -- life is indeed a crapshoot. From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] After death

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Amy Davis
Everyone has their own opinion on this, I am sure. So here is mine. I have NO IDEA! I know there have been times in my life when it has been influenced by a guidiance or spirit or GOD. I think all religion have the same basic principle. Believe in a higher power. Be good to one another.

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2007-04-15 Thread William Willis
Voltaire said: If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him. How true. From: Amy Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: andrea murray [EMAIL PROTECTED],Jessica Ann Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] After death Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 06:07:37

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Angie Novak
I don't believe there's a hell, (besides here at times), but I hear they have the best parties!! -Angie Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When, or if, I die, I'm going straight to Hell because I've been a bad boy and besides that where all my friends are :) Dan V

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Dan
I once read a book titled 'Why do bad things happen to good people'. It was written by a Religious leader a Rabbi, Priest or whatever. The gist of it was that God put us here and that was that. He did not believe in Divine intervention. Much like your post Amy. One of my mottos is 'Life is a

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Dan
LOL! I don't believe in Hell either or Heaven for that matter. I'm hoping the hereafter is entering another plane, another dimention. Our bodies are made up of energy and energy is never destroyed it just move to a different dimention. I'm hoping I'll be united with those loved ones that have

RE: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Steve Oldaker
What constitutes bad? Ok, Hitler was a bad person and Mother Theresa was a good person, but most people fall somewhere in between those two. Where is the line drawn to separate the good and bad people? Steve _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 15,

RE: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Danny Hearn
People know in their hearts what is good or evil.I'm not here to argue for gods existance, but just think if humankind followed only the basic beliefs of the 10 commandments.we would not even need a single jail, sadly that is not the case though. Steve Oldaker [EMAIL

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Jessica Ann Gordon
On Apr 15, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Steve Oldaker wrote: What constitutes bad? General list of sins in accordance with the Bible: Anger Evil thoughts Arguing Foolishness Bitterness Fornication Blasphemy Gossip Breaking promises Hypocrisy Not believing in Jesus Failing to pray for

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Dan
You forgot gluttony. God hates fat people - they are going straight to Hell. Dan V At 03:52 PM 4/15/2007 -0400, Jessica Ann Gordon said something that elicited my response: On Apr 15, 2007, at 3:40 PM, Steve Oldaker wrote: What constitutes bad? General list of sins in accordance with

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Oconnelldb
Otherwise, where would the bad people go. Somewhere in Northern Indiana I believe.!!! Dave In a message dated 4/15/2007 9:43:19 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Funny, but if there was no Hell, then there is no down. The is no Yang.

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Oconnelldb
There better be a Heaven and a Hell. If I end up sitting beside Hitler, I'm going to be really pissed. Dave In a message dated 4/15/2007 10:16:49 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LOL! I don't believe in Hell either or Heaven for that matter. I'm hoping

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Angie Novak
I think things don't happen FOR a reason. I think things have been BECAUSE OF a reason. Like how my SCI happened. The man driving wasn't paying attention to his turn signal, or watching the road. That's why it happened. No divine plan, I think. Just my opinion. -Angie Amy Davis [EMAIL

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Angie Novak
That's a major thing with religion, right? Fear of where you'll be going from how you lived your life after you die. It's a way to keep people in line, although not everyone follows that line. The bad people. I think everyone goes to the same place, what happens there happens. -Angie [EMAIL

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Angie Novak
That's a major thing with religion, right? Fear of where you'll be going from how you lived your life after you die. It's a way to keep people in line, although not everyone follows that line. The bad people. I think everyone goes to the same place, what happens there happens. -Angie [EMAIL

RE: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread Merrill Burghardt
? This question makes more since to me opposed to, why me. Merrill _ From: Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:50 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] After death I once read a book titled 'Why do bad things happen to good people'. It was written

RE: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-15 Thread RollinOn
Yes Ron I’ve thought about that very thing and I don’t know if there’s a God out there but if we’re his children why doesn’t he help us or spank the idiots in charge of this mess. I just try to live a decent life. Mark Jackson RollinOn _ From: RONALD L PRACHT [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Fwd: Re: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-15 Thread alanh77
Everyone has different experiences. When I nearly drowned at the time of my SCI, I was under water for probably three minutes at least. Years of swimming lessons had taught me not to panic if I have a problem in the water, so I didn't. When I realized I wasn't going to be able to surface

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread wheelchair
In a message dated 4/15/2007 2:41:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What constitutes bad? Ok, Hitler was a bad person and Mother Theresa was a good person, but most people fall somewhere in between those two. Where is the line drawn to separate the good and bad

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread LadyNotes
Angie, What about those of us who weren't in an accident, but because of an unforeseen or unpreventable illness, became paralyzed in a matter of minutes?? I know I had anything to do with it, this is not be what I would've chosen. Naomi C-4 quad since July 2, 2005 Transverse Myelitis

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-15 Thread wheelchair
It was a Jewish Rabbi. That book is used by and suggested for those who counsel others in time of supportive need. Good reading too! W In a message dated 4/15/2007 11:51:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I once read a book titled 'Why do bad things happen to

RE: Re: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-15 Thread Dan T
Mike, very interesting post... good work Mike Murach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. SMART SCIENTIFIC PEOPLE BELIEVE TOO… Nicholas Copernicus (1473-1543) Copernicus was the Polish astronomer who put forward the first mathematically based system of planets going around the sun.

RE: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-14 Thread Theo Kyparissis
I personally believe there is some sort of life after death but if there isn't it won't be such a big deal because you will be gone, you won't be able to say that you wasted so much time with religion etc. you won't exist anymore. Theo _ From: RONALD L PRACHT [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-14 Thread Jessica Ann Gordon
On Apr 14, 2007, at 1:35 AM, RONALD L PRACHT wrote: Has anyone considered the thought that after death their is nothing but a dirt nap? That it doesnt matter what you did or didnt do in life we all end up the same. That thousands of years ago some smart individual realized that human

Re: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-14 Thread Danny Hearn
There are Very many doctors and scientists that do believe in God...as well as many that don't. If there is nothing besides a dirt nap and no God...Then why don't we just all nuke each other and get it over with? If people really believe like you guy's are saying and there is NO God

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2007-04-14 Thread andrea murray
I really don't know about everyone but, I believe there is live after death. I died and came back. Here is my story. Wheelchair Warrior My Near Death Experience One day I was fine and the next day I could not breathe. I was so scared and at the same time it was so peaceful. My

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-14 Thread Danny Hearn
Amen Angie! I'm checking the NO on that disabled list too ! ;-)Dan H. Angie Novak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I had an out of body experience, I don't remember it. I wouldn't doubt it, though. I did die many times. I remember hearing a voice when I was in the ICU asking me, Do you

Re: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-14 Thread delimited4
of people for all sorts of reasons. My grandfather use to say the second amendment made people tolerant. Not enough of us are armed? john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: [QUAD-L] after death I

Re: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-14 Thread Angie Novak
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Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-14 Thread kaye allard
LOL Angie! I believe that is what is considered as properly assuming the correct karma. Speaking of extremism, or, life and death with a religious and nonsensical perspective, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g285x4sUKoo I, too will be checking that box no ;-) On 4/14/07, Angie

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-14 Thread Jessica Ann Gordon
On Apr 14, 2007, at 3:39 PM, kaye allard wrote: LOL Angie! I believe that is what is considered as properly assuming the correct karma. Speaking of extremism, or, life and death with a religious and nonsensical perspective, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g285x4sUKoo omg

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-14 Thread Dan
When, or if, I die, I'm going straight to Hell because I've been a bad boy and besides that where all my friends are :) Dan V

Re: [QUAD-L] after death

2007-04-14 Thread Quadius
the second amendment made people tolerant. Not enough of us are armed? john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: [QUAD-L] after death I really don't know about everyone but, I believe there is live after death

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2007-04-14 Thread Tim Syfert
In the early days of my SCI I had a glimps into the next realm too, although it wasn't good. I was face to face with a bunch of demonic imp like creatures. I wasn't right with God at the time so maybe that's why that experience wasn't good. Anyway, I definately believe in life after death. To

Re: [QUAD-L] After death

2007-04-14 Thread andrea murray
YES, Thank God that I almost died, I wouldn't be graduating next month. I whouldn't be giving motivational speeches, I wouldn't be helping people, Wheelchair Warrior Jessica Ann Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 14, 2007, at 3:39 PM, kaye allard wrote: LOL Angie! I believe that

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2007-04-14 Thread Mike Murach
1. SMART SCIENTIFIC PEOPLE BELIEVE TOO… Nicholas Copernicus (1473-1543) Copernicus was the Polish astronomer who put forward the first mathematically based system of planets going around the sun. He attended various European universities, and became a Canon in the Catholic church in 1497.