Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

2008-09-11 Thread Bill Unruh
Joseph Gwinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Murray) wrote: >> >I'm not a sysadmin, but am digging into service. I don't recall that >> >the service man page was that helpful, but will look again. >> >> service is mostly a shortcut to save

[ntp:questions] What happens if ntp server unavailable at start up?

2008-09-11 Thread Bill Unruh
A question has arisen in another group-- What happens if, when ntp starts up, the remoter server is unavailable ( eg no DNS or no connection)? This is highly likely to be the case for a laptop for example, where the connection with the local network is only brought up by the user after a while, or

[ntp:questions] LAN synch question

2008-09-11 Thread rochertov
Hello, I am conducting research with TDMA on a wired emulated network. I want all of the machines in the experiment to have the same time. Ideally, the maximum offset would be on the order of 100 micro- seconds. The machines are connected by a 1 Gbps LAN so delay is not a problem. Additionally

Re: [ntp:questions] What happens if ntp server unavailable at start up?

2008-09-11 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-09-11, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A question has arisen in another group-- What happens if, when ntp starts > up, the remoter server is unavailable ( eg no DNS or no connection)? > This is highly likely to be the case for a laptop for example, where the > connection with the l

Re: [ntp:questions] LAN synch question

2008-09-11 Thread rochertov
I just want to clarify something. ntpdc can be used to check on the offset from the peer, right? What is the smallest offset in clocks that I can expect on a 1 Gbps LAN? Thanks ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org https://lists.ntp.org/m

Re: [ntp:questions] LAN synch question

2008-09-11 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-09-11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just want to clarify something. ntpdc can be used to check on the > offset from the peer, right? ntpq is the recommended diagnostic tool. 'ntpq -p hostname' returns a billboard which shows that ntpd's view of its time sources. If y

Re: [ntp:questions] LAN synch question

2008-09-11 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-09-11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am conducting research with TDMA on a wired emulated network. I want > all of the machines in the experiment to have the same time. [snip] > Additionally, I don't care about the correctness of the clock compared > to global time. T

Re: [ntp:questions] LAN synch question

2008-09-11 Thread David Woolley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just want to clarify something. ntpdc can be used to check on the > offset from the peer, right? What is the smallest offset in clocks You cannot find out the offset from the peer; to do that you need to synhronise an independent clock to an order of magnitude bette

Re: [ntp:questions] Output of ntpq -p regarding stratum level

2008-09-11 Thread David Woolley
Nottorf, Stefan wrote: > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter > > == > *10.x.y.z .PPS.1 u 338 1024 377 0.454 -1.559 0.078 > name1.name 10.x.y.z 2 u 471 1024 376 0.209 1.763 0.09

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP configuration

2008-09-11 Thread David Woolley
Sami al flaish wrote: > > I have a problem with the NTP. > 1- I am using machine where the timezone set to (GMT) Casablanca > mandatory. Morocco is no longer on GMT in Summer. As well as ensuring that the machines are configured for the correct timezone, you will need to make sure you hav

Re: [ntp:questions] Reachable and rejected

2008-09-11 Thread David Woolley
Dave Close wrote: > > What I haven't found while reading is how it is possible for a server to > be both reachable and rejected. Note that the reject condition is not That's quite easy, but I can't see a case which applies here (using a not recently synchronised w32time server (NAT would make n

Re: [ntp:questions] LAN synch question

2008-09-11 Thread David Woolley
David Woolley wrote: > Depends on interrupt latency, network loading, the total lack of any > Windows machines in the time synchronisation chain, etc. 100ns should > be possible for lightly loaded machines on a lightly loaded network, at > least 90% of the time. Sorry. I got 100 microseconds

Re: [ntp:questions] LAN synch question

2008-09-11 Thread rochertov
Thank you for the responses. I just have a few small clarification questions. I have used ntpdc and ntpq on the same machine that tries to synch with an ntp server (192.168.0.4). The ntp server uses its own system clock which is not disciplined (need to figure out how to do that). I am curious a

Re: [ntp:questions] LAN synch question

2008-09-11 Thread rochertov
On Sep 11, 3:06 pm, David Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Woolley wrote: > > Depends on interrupt latency, network loading, the total lack of any > > Windows machines in the time synchronisation chain, etc. 100ns should > > be possible for lightly loaded machines on a lightly loaded net

Re: [ntp:questions] LAN synch question

2008-09-11 Thread David Woolley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have used ntpdc and ntpq on the same machine that tries to synch > with an > ntp server (192.168.0.4). The ntp server uses its own system clock > which is > not disciplined (need to figure out how to do that). I am curious as > to why > the reported offsets are differ

Re: [ntp:questions] GPS clock for Linux

2008-09-11 Thread Hal Murray
> I am interested in getting a GPS clock to synchronize our internal >test network. I am curious to hear about relativley cheap and Linux >friendly GPS clock. (Less than $100 would be great) The Garmin GPS 18 LVC is popular. "Some assembly required." (aka soldering) No big deal if somebody h

[ntp:questions] GPS clock for Linux

2008-09-11 Thread rochertov
Hello, I am interested in getting a GPS clock to synchronize our internal test network. I am curious to hear about relativley cheap and Linux friendly GPS clock. (Less than $100 would be great) Thanks in advance ___ questions mailing list questions@

Re: [ntp:questions] LAN synch question

2008-09-11 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, >I am conducting research with TDMA on a wired emulated network. I > want all of the machines in the experiment to have the same time. > Ideally, the maximum offset would be on the order of 100 micro- > seconds. The machines are connected by a 1 Gbps LAN so d

Re: [ntp:questions] GPS clock for Linux

2008-09-11 Thread rochertov
On Sep 11, 4:54 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Murray) wrote: > > I am interested in getting a GPS clock to synchronize our internal > >test network. I am curious to hear about relativley cheap and Linux > >friendly GPS clock. (Less than $100 would be great) > > The Garmin GPS 18 LVC is popular. "S

Re: [ntp:questions] GPS clock for Linux

2008-09-11 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
Hal Murray wrote: >> I am interested in getting a GPS clock to synchronize our internal >> test network. I am curious to hear about relativley cheap and Linux >> friendly GPS clock. (Less than $100 would be great) > > The Garmin GPS 18 LVC is popular. "Some assembly required." > (aka soldering

Re: [ntp:questions] GPS clock for Linux

2008-09-11 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-09-12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 11, 4:54 pm, (Hal Murray) wrote: > >> > I am interested in getting a GPS clock to synchronize our >> >internal test network. I am curious to hear about relativley cheap >> >and Linux friendly GPS clock. (Less than $100 would be