Re: [ntp:questions] Leap Second

2008-12-02 Thread Unruh
morsupil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >On 3 d=E9c, 00:30, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >>Hi all, >> >>Since yesterday I saw the leap second Flag set on some servers of >> >>ntp.pool.org. I'am quite surprise because the l

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap Second

2008-12-02 Thread Unruh
morsupil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >On 3 d=E9c, 00:30, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >>Hi all, >> >>Since yesterday I saw the leap second Flag set on some servers of >> >>ntp.pool.org. I'am quite surprise because the l

Re: [ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-12-02, Cal Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 21:29 +, Steve Kostecke wrote: >> Orphan Mode was introduced in version 4.2.2 > > It sure would be nice if there were more documentation about Orphan > mode. The Official Distribution Documentation is maintained b

Re: [ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-12-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That still doesn't make sense to me. A peer is objecting to his peer > using a fellow peer as a candidate? Why then does this behavior only > present itself on the version 4.2.4 peer and none of the others? The difference between 4.2.4

Re: [ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread Harlan Stenn
>>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cal Webster) writes: Cal> It sure would be nice if there were more documentation about Orphan Cal> mode. There is nothing in the man or info pages for any version. The Cal> only scraps I could find were a short blurb on the "associations" page

Re: [ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread cwebster
David Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cal Webster wrote: > > > > > How could any of the "peers" be clients of themselves? Only the master > > I think that is the nature of peers. The relationship is symmetric. That still doesn't make sense to me. A peer is objecting to his peer usin

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap Second

2008-12-02 Thread morsupil
On 3 déc, 00:30, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >>Hi all, > >>Since yesterday I saw the leap second Flag set on some servers of > >>ntp.pool.org. I'am quite surprise because the leap second add to be > >>set the 31/12/2008 an

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap Second

2008-12-02 Thread Bill Unruh
Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>Hi all, >>Since yesterday I saw the leap second Flag set on some servers of >>ntp.pool.org. I'am quite surprise because the leap second add to be >>set the 31/12/2008 and not the 1/12/2008. >>Is it normal >The leap is announced a

Re: [ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread David Woolley
Cal Webster wrote: > > How could any of the "peers" be clients of themselves? Only the master I think that is the nature of peers. The relationship is symmetric. > server is using the Undisciplined Local Clock as a reference. All the > others appear to be correctly rejecting theirs and using th

Re: [ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread Cal Webster
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 21:29 +, Steve Kostecke wrote: > On 2008-12-02, Cal Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > One of my NTP servers (Server D below) is rejecting both of its peers. > > They, on the other hand, each have consistent candidate status for both > > of *their* peers. This rejec

Re: [ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread Cal Webster
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 21:33 +, David Woolley wrote: > Cal Webster wrote: > > > ppoll=10, flash=800 peer_loop, keyid=0, ttl=0, offset=6.071, > ^^^ > > Looks like it is objecting to to the client ultimately being its own > server, which I guess is a reasonable thin

Re: [ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread David Woolley
Steve Kostecke wrote: > On 2008-12-02, David Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> naughty boy will not be a well-behaved Orphan Child. >> Orphan and local clock are mutually incompatible! > > Nonsense. > > Orphan Mode and the Undisciplined Local Clock are merely ways of > providing a time "s

Re: [ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread David Woolley
Cal Webster wrote: > ppoll=10, flash=800 peer_loop, keyid=0, ttl=0, offset=6.071, ^^^ Looks like it is objecting to to the client ultimately being its own server, which I guess is a reasonable thing to do. ___ questions ma

Re: [ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-12-02, Cal Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of my NTP servers (Server D below) is rejecting both of its peers. > They, on the other hand, each have consistent candidate status for both > of *their* peers. This rejecting server does pick the master server as > it's reference source

Re: [ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2008-12-02, David Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> naughty boy will not be a well-behaved Orphan Child. > > Orphan and local clock are mutually incompatible! Nonsense. Orphan Mode and the Undisciplined Local Clock are merely ways of providing a time "source" to ntpd. As with any set of

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap Second

2008-12-02 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
morsupil wrote: > On 2 déc, 20:22, Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>> Hi all, >>> Since yesterday I saw the leap second Flag set on some servers of >>> ntp.pool.org. I'am quite surprise because the leap second add to be >>> set the 31/12/2008 and not the 1/12/2008. >>

Re: [ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread Cal Webster
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 19:50 +, David Woolley wrote: > Cal Webster wrote: > > One of my NTP servers (Server D below) is rejecting both of its peers. > > They, on the other hand, each have consistent candidate status for both > > of *their* peers. This rejecting server does pick the master serv

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap Second

2008-12-02 Thread morsupil
On 2 déc, 20:22, Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Hi all, > >Since yesterday I saw the leap second Flag set on some servers of > >ntp.pool.org. I'am quite surprise because the leap second add to be > >set the 31/12/2008 and not the 1/12/2008. > >Is it normal > > T

Re: [ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread David Woolley
Cal Webster wrote: > One of my NTP servers (Server D below) is rejecting both of its peers. > They, on the other hand, each have consistent candidate status for both > of *their* peers. This rejecting server does pick the master server as > it's reference source but has no candidates listed. I don'

Re: [ntp:questions] Leap Second

2008-12-02 Thread Unruh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Hi all, >Since yesterday I saw the leap second Flag set on some servers of >ntp.pool.org. I'am quite surprise because the leap second add to be >set the 31/12/2008 and not the 1/12/2008. >Is it normal The leap is announced at the beginning of the month to make sure

[ntp:questions] Rejecting Good Peers

2008-12-02 Thread Cal Webster
One of my NTP servers (Server D below) is rejecting both of its peers. They, on the other hand, each have consistent candidate status for both of *their* peers. This rejecting server does pick the master server as it's reference source but has no candidates listed. I don't see anything that would c

[ntp:questions] Leap Second

2008-12-02 Thread michael . froment
Hi all, Since yesterday I saw the leap second Flag set on some servers of ntp.pool.org. I'am quite surprise because the leap second add to be set the 31/12/2008 and not the 1/12/2008. Is it normal Michael ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.n

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp survey

2008-12-02 Thread Antonio M. Moreiras
Hi, Maarten > Well, as per above, I'll be happy to punch a hole in the firewall for > you. It would be nice and we would like it. It also bring us a new problem... To recognize such hosts (normaly closed, but openned for the research) as one of the research goals is to map the ntp network. But we

Re: [ntp:questions] ntp survey

2008-12-02 Thread Maarten Wiltink
"Antonio M. Moreiras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Maarten Wiltink escreveu: >> "Antonio M. Moreiras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Aiming to collect and analyze data from NTP network, a survey will >>> be held at all hosts avai