Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-08 Thread David Woolley
unruh wrote: If I recall correctly his problem was that he had 4 outside sources plus the local time. Then something disconnected him from those outside sources for a long time ( hours) After that was fixed, the system never again went back to those outside sources-- gave zero reachability even

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-08 Thread unruh
On 2010-11-08, David Woolley wrote: > Stephen Vaughan wrote: >> Connectivity is fine to the ntp servers, if I restart ntpd it starts syncing >> with an external clock immediately. This article could be the fix: >> >> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15345.html > > This advises some ve

[ntp:questions] Will AutoKey setup work on a NAT host behind a firewall?

2010-11-08 Thread Harry
Hello, I want to employ the AutoKey method of securing NTP. Basically, I want one host that would act as an NTP client of an external NTP server, talking AutoKey. This NTP client is to become the NTP server for other hosts on the intranet. All these hosts are behind a corporate firewall and are v

Re: [ntp:questions] OS users

2010-11-08 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Chuck Swiger wrote: > Anyway, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems > > "Web client stats suggest that Microsoft Windows has about an > 88% share, Apple Mac OS 7% and Linux 1%. > The correlation between desktop share and web client share > is being increasingly ch

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-08 Thread Stephen Vaughan
Alright, I'll give it a miss then. We'll look into removing the locl clock. Cheers, Stephen -Original Message- From: questions-bounces+stephen.vaughan=blackboard@lists.ntp.org [mailto:questions-bounces+stephen.vaughan=blackboard@lists.ntp.org] On Behalf Of Steve Kostecke Sent:

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-08 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2010-11-08, Stephen Vaughan wrote: > Yep it does work, I think that article I just posted is the fix. That should go in the Wiki. -- Steve Kostecke NTP Public Services Project - http://support.ntp.org/ ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-08 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2010-11-08, Stephen Vaughan wrote: > Yep it does work, I think that article I just posted is the fix. Actually, that belongs in the Wiki as an example of what _not_ to do. "burst" makes your ntpd poll the remote time server 8 times in rapid sucession at each poll interval. Use of 'burst' aga

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-08 Thread David Woolley
Stephen Vaughan wrote: Connectivity is fine to the ntp servers, if I restart ntpd it starts syncing with an external clock immediately. This article could be the fix: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15345.html This advises some very anti-social practice, namely using burst on pub

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-08 Thread Stephen Vaughan
Yep it does work, I think that article I just posted is the fix. Cheers, Stephen -Original Message- From: Kevin Oberman [mailto:ober...@es.net] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:55 PM To: Stephen Vaughan Cc: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue >

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-08 Thread Stephen Vaughan
Connectivity is fine to the ntp servers, if I restart ntpd it starts syncing with an external clock immediately. This article could be the fix: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15345.html Cheers, Stephen -Original Message- From: questions-bounces+stephen.vaughan=blackboard..

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-08 Thread David J Taylor
Is anyone able to shed some further light on this issue? I plan to remove the LOCAL clock from ntp's configuration, but I'm still keen to know why it's defaulting to the LOCAL clock once network connectivity is down, and then ignoring any of the public NTP servers configured when network connec

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical onWinXP?

2010-11-08 Thread Dave Hart
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > No, it really is about the 500ppm limit. In loopstats is only the > measured clock frequency, it doesn't contain the phase > adjustments which are included in the adjtime() argument. Miroslav shared the following patch with me, which limit

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-08 Thread Kevin Oberman
> From: Stephen Vaughan > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:15:30 -0700 > > Hi All, > > Is anyone able to shed some further light on this issue? I plan to remove the > LOCAL clock from ntp's configuration, but I'm still keen to know why it's > defaulting to the LOCAL clock once network connectivity is

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-08 Thread Stephen Vaughan
Hi All, Is anyone able to shed some further light on this issue? I plan to remove the LOCAL clock from ntp's configuration, but I'm still keen to know why it's defaulting to the LOCAL clock once network connectivity is down, and then ignoring any of the public NTP servers configured when networ

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical onWinXP?

2010-11-08 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 03:09:57PM +, David L. Mills wrote: > It is not an issue of limiting the slew rate to less than > 500 PPM, as that is in fact the result shown in the looopstats > trace. No, it really is about the 500ppm limit. In loopstats is only the measured clock frequency, it does

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical onWinXP?

2010-11-08 Thread David L. Mills
Dave, Notice toward the end of the calibration period adjtime() is called with only a small offset, so issues like the slew rate and residual offset are moot. Those calls should minimize the residual and the actual clock time should be within the measuement offset. Apparentyl, at least the Fr

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical onWinXP?

2010-11-08 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 05:30:22AM +, Dave Hart wrote: > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 05:14 UTC, David L. Mills wrote: > > At this point I am prepared to > > abandon the mission entirely, as I don't want to get bogged down with the > > specifics of each idiosyncratic operating system. Accordingly, I