Re: [ntp:questions] Using NTP to calibrate sound app

In article <51033f49.215309...@news.eternal-september.org>, no-...@no-place.org wrote: > I am an app developer who has a precision audio frequency app for > iPhone and Android devices. For my app the nominal crystal oscillator > accuracy in these devices is not sufficient. Up until now I have b

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP vs RADclock?

In article , David Woolley wrote: > skillz...@gmail.com wrote: > > Has there been any independent comparison of NTP vs RADclock [1]? > > Information on the RADclock site seem to indicate it performs pretty > > well, but I haven't seen any analysis except from the RADclock > > authors. > > This

Re: [ntp:questions] local refclock and orphan mode...

In article , Harlan Stenn wrote: > Joe wrote: > > Harlan wrote: > > > If such networks have what they think is a valid use case for > > > simultaneous use of both local refclocks and orphan mode, it would be > > > Good to hear what that case is. > > > > I may not be understanding the question c

Re: [ntp:questions] local refclock and orphan mode...

In article , Harlan Stenn wrote: > Doug, > > > On 11/21/2011 01:51 AM, Harlan Stenn wrote: > > > I asked this on hackers@ and think a wider audience would be good. > > > > > > In the old days, we had the local refclock. > > > > > > Now we have orphan mode. > > > > > > Can anybody think o

Re: [ntp:questions] How to keep fake time in past/future?

In article , unruh wrote: > On 2011-04-30, Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article , > > unruh wrote: > > > >> On 2011-04-29, Cristian Seres wrote: > >> > Hi! > >> > > >> > How would you implement an NTP server which would nee

Re: [ntp:questions] How to keep fake time in past/future?

In article , unruh wrote: > On 2011-04-29, Cristian Seres wrote: > > Hi! > > > > How would you implement an NTP server which would need to offer a time > > set deliberately in past/future, say 365*86400 seconds, or even better - > > first set the freely chosen date on NTP server and then keep

Re: [ntp:questions] UK - GPS Jamming update

In article , Dave Hart wrote: > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:27 PM, unruh wrote: > > > > I think this is a really bad idea. It conveys the impression that it is > > OK to jam GPS-- "Even the government thinks it is OK to jam GPS." This > > removes the (admittedly possibly small) moral argument th

Re: [ntp:questions] new driver development

In article , hal-use...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net (Hal Murray) wrote: > In article <2wlgp.34776$d46.31...@newsfe07.iad>, > Bruce Lilly writes: > > > o POSIX mutex for synchronized access to shared memory for updates > > -- obviates mode 0 / mode 1 / OLDWAY > > I'm far from a POSIX wiz

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical on Win XP?

In article , "David J Taylor" wrote: > "Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message > news:joegwinn-ee48fd.22434621102...@news.giganews.com... > > In article , > > "David J Taylor" wrote: > [] > >> You might consider providing a local, more p

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical on Win XP?

In article , "David J Taylor" wrote: > > The platforms in question are running Windows XP, not Vista or Windows > > 7. How does this change the answer? > > NTP will switch on the multi-media timers in Windows XP and achieve the > best performance I have seen on Windows systems. Temperature (

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical on Win XP?

In article , "David J Taylor" wrote: > "Evandro Menezes" wrote in message > news:a376dc23-cb31-441c-9b35-b10a9758c...@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... > [] > > Indeed, since Windows allows a process to be starved from running, > > depending on the load, a higher priority process may block NTP f

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical on Win XP?

In article , "David J Taylor" wrote: > "Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message > news:joegwinn-da4b7b.23340420102...@news.giganews.com... > > In article , > > "David J Taylor" wrote: > > > >> > I have a small network of Windows XP

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical on Win XP?

In article , "David J Taylor" wrote: > "David Woolley" wrote in message > news:i9omts$7s...@news.eternal-september.org... > > Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > > > >> Also note that Windows' clock "ticks" every 17 milliseconds. > >> > > > > Only when not running ntpd. ntpd forces the use of multime

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical on Win XP?

In article , David Woolley wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > I have a small network of Windows XP (64 bit) running simulations, with > > NTPv4 running on all the boxes and using a GPS-based timeserver on the > > company network. The ping time to the server is 2 milliseco

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical on Win XP?

In article , "David J Taylor" wrote: > > I have a small network of Windows XP (64 bit) running simulations, with > > NTPv4 running on all the boxes and using a GPS-based timeserver on the > > company network. The ping time to the server is 2 milliseconds from my > > desk, but I'm seeing random

[ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical on Win XP?

I have a small network of Windows XP (64 bit) running simulations, with NTPv4 running on all the boxes and using a GPS-based timeserver on the company network. The ping time to the server is 2 milliseconds from my desk, but I'm seeing random time errors of order plus/minus 5 to 10 milliseconds

Re: [ntp:questions] Allan deviation survey

In article , unruh wrote: > On 2010-09-13, Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > Unruh, > > > > In article , > > unruh wrote: > > > >> On 2010-09-13, David L. Mills wrote: > >> > > [snip] > >> > >> > ... And, by th

Re: [ntp:questions] Allan deviation survey

In article <1f42m7-7gr2@ntp.tmsw.no>, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"> wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > The address did not look munged to me either. It makes perfect sense for a > > physicist to name servers after physics objects. > &

Re: [ntp:questions] Allan deviation survey

Unruh, In article , unruh wrote: > On 2010-09-13, David L. Mills wrote: > [snip] > > > ... And, by the way, mail sent to your alleged mail address is > > returned to sender as undeliverable. > > Yes, I am sorry about that but it is done in order to slightly reduce > the spam I get. It shou

Re: [ntp:questions] DATUM TymServe 2000 Op/Sv Manual request

In article , "mauri" wrote: > In Symmetricom.com this model isn't available. Call Symmetricom up and ask them. Joe Gwinn > "E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists" > ha scritto nel messaggio > news:i3hvbr$f2...@news.eternal-september.org... > > mauri wrote: > >> I`

Re: [ntp:questions] IA approved COTS NTP servers question

In article <62b84ad9-7d4c-4074-960e-aae4ef826...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Fran wrote: > On Jun 4, 3:13 pm, Greg Hennessy wrote: > > On 2010-06-04, Fran wrote: > > > > > On Jun 3, 4:49?pm, Greg Hennessy wrote: > > >> > Do you know of any DISA IA approved COTS NTP servers ? > > > > >> Why

Re: [ntp:questions] IA approved COTS NTP servers question

In article <9ead1ef5-7000-445b-b7d1-ac1083874...@q8g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, Fran wrote: > Do you know of any DISA IA approved COTS NTP servers ? Didn¹t see any > in the approved products lists at http://iase.disa.mil/common/index.html > > Or, have you configured/tested a COTS NTP server to p

Re: [ntp:questions] Network latency questions

In article <20100536.48397.fmgrotep...@yahoo.co.uk>, Frans Grotepass wrote: > Hi all, Thanks for the responses. > > On Thursday 27 May 2010 15:13:50 Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article <201005271035.46352.fmgrotep...@yahoo.co.uk>, > > > >

Re: [ntp:questions] Network latency questions

In article <201005271035.46352.fmgrotep...@yahoo.co.uk>, Frans Grotepass wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry for abusing my membership to this forum for this question. > > We are busy with building an embedded application that must retrieve data > very fast. Please define "very fast" in numbers. Fo

Re: [ntp:questions] Quick sync between two computers not connected to the internet

In article <7c492e13-48c4-4b06-84ea-81e4e6596...@mac.com>, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > In most cases, it is easier to solve the problem of sync'ing all computers to > a correct timesource (and thus all be mutually in sync), then it is to setup > a bunch of truly & completely isolated machines whic

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPv4 Peer Event Codes - secret decoder ring sought

hh, be nice. We all know perfectly well how such things happen. Joe Gwinn > > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > > >>Dave, > >> > >>In article <4ba2c1ff.3060...@udel.edu>, David Mills wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Joe,

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPv4 Peer Event Codes - secret decoder ring sought

In article , Dave Hart wrote: > On Mar 19, 20:47 UTC, Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > Dave, > > > > First the question:  The Code field of the Peer Status Word is 4 bits wide, > > and > > yet codes are defined for values from 1 to 10 hex (decimal 16), which > &g

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPv4 Peer Event Codes - secret decoder ring sought

Dave, In article <81ed5f77-97a2-474d-8c1a-346b2192c...@v34g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, Dave Hart wrote: > On Mar 18, 13:49 UTC, Joseph Gwinn wrote: > >  Dave Hart wrote: > > > If you want to be able to decode these bits for ntpd versions from > > > before an

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPv4 Peer Event Codes - secret decoder ring sought

done lightly; > they reflect updates in the algorithms and interpretation of the > statistics and state variables. If the interpretation has not changed, > the name and code have not changed. If it has been changed or has become > obsolete, the name is not reused. This is good. There is far

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPv4 Peer Event Codes - secret decoder ring sought

In article <46f5ae0a-93d6-44ea-812f-e4da2ae2c...@a16g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, Dave Hart wrote: > There were backward-incompatible changes on May 13, 2008 for ntp-dev > 4.2.5p114: > > > > Once again statestr.c

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPv4 Peer Event Codes - secret decoder ring sought

In article , Joseph Gwinn wrote: > Dave, > > In article > <8c5b8d60-8780-4bf0-80da-6b1d19410...@k24g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, > Dave Hart wrote: > > > On Mar 17, 03:30 UTC, Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > > Looking in section B.2.2 of RFC 1305 yield

Re: [ntp:questions] NTPv4 Peer Event Codes - secret decoder ring sought

Dave, In article <8c5b8d60-8780-4bf0-80da-6b1d19410...@k24g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, Dave Hart wrote: > On Mar 17, 03:30 UTC, Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > Looking in section B.2.2 of RFC 1305 yields that the Peer Status Field has > > four > > subfields, the last (rightm

[ntp:questions] NTPv4 Peer Event Codes - secret decoder ring sought

Well, we just brought NTPv4 up on some IBM AIX 5.3 machines. Had to compile from source code on the target machines to get a daemon that didn't crash upon launch. Anyway, the daemon appears to be happily working, and is happily generating loopstats and peerstats files. So far so good. The pe

Re: [ntp:questions] GPS_NEMA, but high offset and jitter?

In article <7v1k7ffip...@mid.individual.net>, David Lord wrote: > unruh wrote: > > On 2010-03-01, Kelsey Cummings wrote: > >> David J Taylor wrote: > >> ... > >>> I would knock something up if there were enough interest, but it would > >>> be a Windows program so of limited interest to the OP.

Re: [ntp:questions] National time standard differences

In article , "David J Taylor" wrote: > > I've setup an NTP server in the south east asia region synchonising > > with regional NTP servers as well as a couple of servers I am > > responsible for in the US. > > > > remotest t when poll reach delay offset jitter > > ==

Re: [ntp:questions] 500ppm - is it too small?

In article , Uwe Klein wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > The prototypical example of an orthogonal instruction set was the > > PDP-11. The Motorola 68000 family was an outgrowth. > > 68k -> CISC and still very much alive > 88k -> RISC drifting belly up in th

Re: [ntp:questions] 500ppm - is it too small?

In article , David Woolley wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > > No, 8 bits isn't arbitrary. > > > > Computer hardware is simplified if the various word lengths are all > > powers of two. > > Not significantly. Early machines commonly did not use 8 b

Re: [ntp:questions] 500ppm - is it too small?

In article <87r5s3syxz@pc9454.klinik.uni-regensburg.de>, Ulrich Windl wrote: > "nemo_outis" writes: > > > "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote in > > news:tlsdnq2e26bblbnxnz2dnuvz_sydn...@giganews.com: > > > >> nemo_outis wrote: > > ... > >>> I fail to see the value or relevance of "500ppm satisfi

Re: [ntp:questions] .1 Microsecond Synchronization

In article <87d49h9g60@thumper.dhh.gt.org>, John Hasler wrote: > Joe Gwinn writes: > > "Time, clocks, and the ordering of events in a distributed system", > > Leslie Lamport, Communications of the ACM 21,7 (July 1978) pages 558-565. > > Excellent! Here is a link to the page for this paper

Re: [ntp:questions] .1 Microsecond Synchronization

In article <2pmdnygdgrswzbrxnz2dnuvz_uidn...@giganews.com>, ScottyG wrote: > Hello. > > The company I am working for needs to be able to record timestamps in a > trading > system logs down to a .1 microsecond accuracy. > > We will have servers located in London, New York and Chicago. There w

[ntp:questions] PCI IRIG receiver card for AIX?

Does anybody know of any PCI-bus IRIG-B time signal receiver cards for which an I/O driver for AIX (IBM's flavor of UNIX) is available? Industrial-grade commercial products are preferred. Thanks, Joe Gwinn ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article , Harlan Stenn wrote: > >>> In article , Joseph > >>> Gwinn writes: > > Joseph> In article , > Joseph> Harlan Stenn wrote: > > >> >>> In article , Joseph > >> >>> Gwinn writes: > >

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article , "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article <49bdc52b.20...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) wrote: > > > >> Joseph Gwinn wrote: > >> > >>>>> The FAQ has to be the place for such expla

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article , "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article <49bdbbbe.4030...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) > > wrote: > > > >> Joseph Gwinn wrote: > >>> What's the story for IBM's AIX? > >>

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <49bdc52b.20...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > >>> The FAQ has to be the place for such explanations. > >> I'm not sure if this qualifies as an FAQ as I don't recall that it has > >> come u

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <89b3231f-d79a-4fb1-b449-fe574bca8...@j38g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, paul.cro...@softwareag.com wrote: > Joseph, > > If you're not willing to get the source code for NTP and compile it, > you can download a binary from http://www.sunfreeware.com/. > It's probably configured with a 's

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <49bdbbbe.4030...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > > > What's the story for IBM's AIX? > > > > It builds on AIX too. It builds on most Unix systems though maybe not on > some of the oldest O/S ver

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <49be52ab.1000...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) wrote: > Joe Gwinn wrote: > > Status code values fixed. > > > > At 10:47 PM -0400 3/15/09, Danny Mayer wrote: > >> Joseph Gwinn wrote: > >>> Hmm. OK, but I think that we'v

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article , Harlan Stenn wrote: > >>> In article , Joseph > >>> Gwinn writes: > > >> I think you are talking about one of my pet peeves: > >> > >> http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/NtpVariablesAndNtpq > > Joseph> I

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article , "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article , > > "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > > > >> Joseph Gwinn wrote: > >>> In article , > >>> "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > >

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article , Harlan Stenn wrote: > >>> In article , Joseph > >>> Gwinn writes: > > Joseph> What AIX version and Technology Level (~=patch level) have been used > Joseph> to build NTPv4? > > powerpc-ibm-aix4.3.3.0 > powerpc-ibm-aix5.1.0.0 &

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <1237210896.237...@news1nwk>, Brian Utterback wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > Also good to know, so I'll know better than to use the Sun compiler (not > > that it's bad, but that it isn't what's been worked through with NTP). > >

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <20090316063319.f2...@bulldog.localhost.org>, hun...@comcast.net (Rob Neal) wrote: > On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > > In article , > > "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > > [snip] > > > >>> The FAQ has to be the p

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Support (Was 'What does "Max Distance Exceeded"...')

In article <49becf09$0$507$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk>, David Woolley wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > We have moved from the meaning of status code 9514 to the more general > > But you should have kept the thread, even if the subject changed. Opinion varies on this, bu

[ntp:questions] NTP Support (Was 'What does "Max Distance Exceeded"...')

We have moved from the meaning of status code 9514 to the more general issue of how NTP shall be supported, so I've collected the relevant threads below. === > At 11:19 PM -0400 3/15/09, Danny Mayer wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: >

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article , "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article , > > "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > > > >> Joseph Gwinn wrote: > >>> In article <49bd3907.1080...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) >

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

Status codes also fixed below. In article , Harlan Stenn wrote: > >>> In article , Joseph > >>> Gwinn writes: > > Joseph> Let me summarize: > > Joseph> 1. Sun Microsystems' current behavior is not the issue, as I'm > Joseph> load

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article , "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article <49bd3907.1080...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) > > wrote: > > [snip] > > > > 3. The original question was how to interpret a specific status code, >

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article , Harlan Stenn wrote: > >>> In article , Joseph > >>> Gwinn writes: > > Joseph> In article <49bd3a1e.2020...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) > Joseph> wrote: > > Danny> NTP v4 builds on most versions of Solaris. If for s

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <49bd3907.1080...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article <49bc631c.1060...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) > > wrote: > > > >> Ronan Flood wrote: > >>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <49bd3a1e.2020...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) wrote: > Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > >> Is NTP v4 proven to run on Solaris 9 (SunOS 5.9 Generic May 2002)? > > > > Proven? Please define that! It works for me. YMMV!

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article , "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article <49bc631c.1060...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) > > wrote: > > > >> Ronan Flood wrote: > >>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31:11 -0500, > >>>

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <49bc631c.1060...@ntp.org>, ma...@ntp.org (Danny Mayer) wrote: > Ronan Flood wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31:11 -0500, > > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > > >> NTP version 3 is running. I've been trying to find the command to give > >

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <49bb8860$0$507$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk>, David Woolley wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article <49bae109$0$505$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk>, > > Da > >> ntpd doesn't care about what the drift is in determining root distance. >

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article , "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > I have been debugging some system problems. The main system is too > > complicated, with too many people doing too many things, so I sought > > quiet refuge in an isolated test system

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <71vg2ffn8ir...@mid.individual.net>, Ronan Flood wrote: > On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:31:11 -0500, > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > > NTP version 3 is running. I've been trying to find the command to give > > me the full version, including dot (like 3.4y), a

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <49bae109$0$505$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk>, David Woolley wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article <49ba0e33$0$505$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk>, > > David Woolley wrote: > > > >> Joseph Gwinn wrote: > >> > >>> Wh

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <49ba0e33$0$505$5a6ae...@news.aaisp.net.uk>, David Woolley wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > > What is this error likely telling me? What are the possibilities? What > > tests will tell the tale? > > Your timeservers are unsynchronised, but for so

Re: [ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

In article <8dca286d-ba66-4caf-8090-a3467064a...@s20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Mike K Smith wrote: > On 13 Mar, 04:31, Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > The timeserver can be either a Symmetricom ET6010 GPS receiver feeding > > an IRIG-B002 time signal to a Symmetricom TS2100 Ne

[ntp:questions] What exactly does "Maximum Distance Exceded" mean?

I have been debugging some system problems. The main system is too complicated, with too many people doing too many things, so I sought quiet refuge in an isolated test system consisting of a NTP timeserver connected by a point-to-point ethernet cable to a computer running NTP, which generates

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP over redundant peer links, undetected loops

In article <5d7f07420902151105m48a5e210s72e8e168e67d1...@mail.gmail.com>, malay...@gmail.com (Ryan Malayter) wrote: > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Danny Mayer wrote: > > > > Because I want to get away from the notion that these are meant to be IP > > addresses. In addition in an IPv6-only

Re: [ntp:questions] Isolated Network Drift Problem

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unruh wrote: > > David Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> Unruh wrote: > > > >>> With your 100m setup you really want a buffer amp on the line. At 100m, > >>> the > >>> one way trip is .3ms, with reflec

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Murray) wrote: > >I did get a look at the ntpd script today. Turns out the answer on > >where it gets the ntp.conf file is right there, near the top, in the > >line "ntpconf=/etc/ntp.conf", even though the ntp man page points us > >deeper

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Uwe Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hal Murray wrote: > >>I did get a look at the ntpd script today. Turns out the answer on > >>where it gets the ntp.conf file is right there, near the top, in the > >>line "ntpconf=/etc/ntp.conf", even though the ntp man pag

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Murray) wrote: > >> No I suspect you ran /usr/sbin/ntpd, not /etc/init.d/ntpd > >> /etc/init.d/ntpd start should do EXACTLY the same thing as when the system > >> runs it on bootup. > > > >If I recall, the line that worked was "/etc/init.d/nt

Re: [ntp:questions] What happens if ntp server unavailable at start up?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Harlan Stenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] > > >Unruh> Did the dynamic keyword ever work? The web docs say that it is not > >Unruh> yet implimented. > > >I'm pretty sure it works - what documentation says it doesn't? > > S

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Gwinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Murray) wrote: > > >> >I'm not a sysadmin, but am dig

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Murray) wrote: > >I'm not a sysadmin, but am digging into service. I don't recall that > >the service man page was that helpful, but will look again. > > service is mostly a shortcut to save typing. If you think it is getting > in your wa

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >James Cloos wrote: > > >> I read through most of the replies so far, but one thing I haven't seen > >> noted is that this isn't an ntp issue at al > > >Did you mean service (8). >

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Gwinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> On 2008-09-03, Joseph Gwinn <

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On 2008-09-03, Joseph Gwinn <[

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file (Joseph Gwinn)

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Breck Beatie) wrote: > This isn't quite what you're asking for and it's certainly not ntp > specific, but one technique that I have used in the past is to replace > the binary I'm trying to "debug" with a script which dumps useful > information

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter J. Cherny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > I will file an enhancement request. However, my feeling is that this > > function would be most useful if added to ntpq, and yielded the full > > f

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Martin Burnicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > > ISTR that ntpd looks in /etc/inet if it is not told to look elsewhere by > > the command that starts ntpd. This should take care of Unix and > > Unix-like systems. Windoze?? Ask someone w

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Martin Burnicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Joe, > >> > >>

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Kostecke wrote: > > On 2008-09-03, Joseph Gwinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Read the "service" shell script. It appears to get its file paths from &g

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Kostecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008-09-03, Joseph Gwinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Read the "service" shell script. It appears to get its file paths from > > environment variables named afte

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Gwinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > "Peter J. Cherny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Joseph Gwinn wrote: &g

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Martin Burnicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joe, > > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > "Peter J. Cherny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Joseph Gwinn wrote: &g

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > We had been struggling with NTP running on Red Hat Enterprise Linux > > (RHEL) on IBM-built Intel boxes, specifically with getting NTP to >

Re: [ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter J. Cherny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > >... > > Which brings me to a question: How does one get NTP to tell you exactly > > where it is getting such things as the ntp.conf file fr

[ntp:questions] Finding out where ntpd gets its ntp.conf file

We had been struggling with NTP running on Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) on IBM-built Intel boxes, specifically with getting NTP to generate loopstats and peerstats files. Basically, nothing worked, despite many attempts. Yesterday, I cracked it while working on the problem with one of the

Re: [ntp:questions] No libntp.so

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kay Hayen) wrote: > Hello Joseph, > > Am Mittwoch, 27. August 2008 15:00:25 schrieb Joseph Gwinn: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kay Hayen) wrote: > > > Hello NTP-

Re: [ntp:questions] No libntp.so

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kay Hayen) wrote: > Hello NTP-World :-), > > we are implementing a NTP supervision for our ATC middleware. Initially we > are > doing it by repeated "ntpq" executions and textual evaluations of the > results. We have had to notice that pipes

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP Drifts +ve and -ve

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arul Murugan) wrote: > Hi, We are using NTP4, when CPU is very busy some of the UDP packets [are] > dropped > by the kernel, so the local clock drifts 60 milliseconds from the time > server. Dropped packets are quite unlikely to be the probl

Re: [ntp:questions] Dual Mixer Time Difference (DMTD) instruments sought

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jlevine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > > While it's unlikely that I will soon get to build such an instrument, I > > am quite interested in how they are built, if only to understand what > > can happen and why.  Can you suggest some articles and/or books

Re: [ntp:questions] Dual Mixer Time Difference (DMTD) instruments sought

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jlevine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I may need a Dual Mixer Time Difference (DMTD) instrument, to measure > > picosecond changes in electrical length in a coax plus amplifier time > > reference signal distribution system with total delays in the hundreds > > of

Re: [ntp:questions] Dual Mixer Time Difference (DMTD) instruments sought

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Uwe Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > > OK. It sounds like what the 5120 does. I be that there are a lot of > > details to get *exactly* right, though. > Right. > > But with hav

Re: [ntp:questions] Dual Mixer Time Difference (DMTD) instruments sought

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Uwe Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Uwe Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Joseph Gwinn wrote: > >> >

Re: [ntp:questions] Dual Mixer Time Difference (DMTD) instruments sought

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Ackermann N8UR) wrote: > Joseph Gwinn said the following on 05/12/2008 10:38 PM: > > >> What DMTD instruments are commercially available? A google search was > >> not successful - all noise no detectable

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