Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode, manycast, and virtualization

2013-09-12 Thread Horvath Bob-BHORVAT1
] orphan mode, manycast, and virtualization unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: On 2013-09-09, Horvath Bob-BHORVAT1 bob.horv...@motorolasolutions.com wrote: Another question if you guys have the time :), We situations in which we have almost everything deployed as virtualized servers running

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode, manycast, and virtualization

2013-09-12 Thread Rob
Horvath Bob-BHORVAT1 bob.horv...@motorolasolutions.com wrote: Use A. C is horrible, and it is very easy for the VM's to exceed the 500PPM ntpd threshold. And ntpd does a really horrible job of disciplining a clock that keeps changing and losing time on a short timescale. It is designed for

[ntp:questions] orphan mode, manycast, and virtualization

2013-09-09 Thread Horvath Bob-BHORVAT1
Another question if you guys have the time :), We situations in which we have almost everything deployed as virtualized servers running inside of VMware ESXi.It seems like the recommendation on time synchronization with ESXi has changed from release to release. It seems to boil down to

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode, manycast, and virtualization

2013-09-09 Thread unruh
On 2013-09-09, Horvath Bob-BHORVAT1 bob.horv...@motorolasolutions.com wrote: Another question if you guys have the time :), We situations in which we have almost everything deployed as virtualized servers running inside of VMware ESXi.It seems like the recommendation on time

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode, manycast, and virtualization

2013-09-09 Thread Mark C. Stephens
To: questions@lists.ntp.org Subject: [ntp:questions] orphan mode, manycast, and virtualization Another question if you guys have the time :), We situations in which we have almost everything deployed as virtualized servers running inside of VMware ESXi.It seems like the recommendation on time

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode, manycast, and virtualization

2013-09-09 Thread Rob
unruh un...@invalid.ca wrote: On 2013-09-09, Horvath Bob-BHORVAT1 bob.horv...@motorolasolutions.com wrote: Another question if you guys have the time :), We situations in which we have almost everything deployed as virtualized servers running inside of VMware ESXi.It seems like the

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode, manycast, and virtualization

2013-09-09 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Horvath Bob-BHORVAT1 wrote: A) Run ntpd on the bare iron at the ESXi layer and let it change the virtual hardware clock (without ntpd running on VMs) B) Run ntpd on the bare iron at the ESXi layer and let ntpd on the VMs use it as a time source C) Run ntpd on all the VMs and

[ntp:questions] orphan mode

2011-06-01 Thread Frank Alsop
Hi,      I am still confused about the proper use of the tos orphan # statement.  Thanks for the replies to my last question and I have read the relevant docs at ntp.org.  I am pretty confident that I understand how to choose an appropriate orphan stratum.  However, I am not 100%, and I have

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode

2011-06-01 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
On 6/1/2011 2:42 PM, Frank Alsop wrote: Hi, I am still confused about the proper use of the tos orphan # statement. Thanks for the replies to my last question and I have read the relevant docs at ntp.org. I am pretty confident that I understand how to choose an appropriate orphan stratum.

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode

2011-06-01 Thread David Woolley
Richard B. Gilbert wrote: If you have GPS, a WWV receiver, LORAN or other primary sources of time I don't understand why you should need or want Orphan Mode! Because it is important for the machines to track each other when internet connectivity is lost.

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode

2011-06-01 Thread David Woolley
Frank Alsop wrote: to: A host is enabled for orphan mode using the tos orphan stratum command, where stratum is some stratum less than 16 and greater than any anticipated stratum that might occur with configured Internet time servers. I am assuming This describes the permissible range.

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode

2011-06-01 Thread Frank Alsop
To: questions@lists.ntp.org Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 5:26:21 PM Subject: Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode Richard B. Gilbert wrote: If you have GPS, a WWV receiver, LORAN or other primary sources of time I don't understand why you should need or want Orphan Mode! Because it is important

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode

2011-05-27 Thread fealsop
On May 19, 1:30 pm, Steve Kostecke koste...@ntp.org wrote: On 2011-05-17, Frank Alsop feal...@yahoo.com wrote:    We have a relatively small network and are trying to use ntp peering andorphanmodeand I have a couple of questions.  I have read the info

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode and layered redundancy

2011-05-27 Thread Florin Andrei
I ended up doing this: On the local NTP servers A ... F: ### restrict default kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery restrict 127.0.0.1 restrict bunch mask 255.255.0.0 nomodify notrap restrict ofmask 255.255.0.0 nomodify notrap restrict internal mask

[ntp:questions] orphan mode and layered redundancy

2011-05-26 Thread Florin Andrei
A few local NTP servers, feeding off of the US pool. Multiple clients, grouped in clusters; it is important that the cluster members stay synced to each other. I could use ntp-4.2.6p3, but more recent than that would be problematic. If the Internet feed goes offline, I want the local NTP

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode and layered redundancy

2011-05-26 Thread Dave Hart
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 22:04 UTC, Florin Andrei flo...@andrei.myip.org wrote: It is unclear to me whether tos orphan N needs to have different values between NTP servers and cluster members. I assumed it needs to be higher for cluster members. Only cluster members need orphan mode (for when

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode and layered redundancy

2011-05-26 Thread Florin Andrei
On 05/26/2011 04:40 PM, Dave Hart wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 22:04 UTC, Florin Andreiflo...@andrei.myip.org wrote: It is unclear to me whether tos orphan N needs to have different values between NTP servers and cluster members. I assumed it needs to be higher for cluster members. Only

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode and layered redundancy

2011-05-26 Thread Dave Hart
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 00:28 UTC, Florin Andrei flo...@andrei.myip.org wrote: But could I use orphan mode on the local NTP servers, with a lower stratum? The clusters are not the only NTP clients, and I'd like the local NTP servers to keep some semblance of consistency in case the Internet

[ntp:questions] orphan mode

2011-05-19 Thread Frank Alsop
Hi,    We have a relatively small network and are trying to use ntp peering and orphan mode and I have a couple of questions.  I have read the info at http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/orphan.html but I am having trouble figuring out the correct tos orphan statement we should use. We

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode

2011-05-19 Thread Nickolay Orekhov
Instead of using orphan mode you could try to setup local reference clock, see here http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/drivers/driver1.html http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/drivers/driver1.htmlThan, It's not clear why you need orphan mode at all? In any case you could set orphan

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode

2011-05-19 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2011-05-17, Frank Alsop feal...@yahoo.com wrote:    We have a relatively small network and are trying to use ntp peering and orphan mode and I have a couple of questions.  I have read the info at http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/orphan.html That is the documentation for the

Re: [ntp:questions] orphan mode

2011-05-19 Thread David Woolley
Nickolay Orekhov wrote: Instead of using orphan mode you could try to setup local reference clock, see here http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/drivers/driver1.html Orphan mode is an attempt to do time islands properly. The local clock driver should have been used in hardly any of the

[ntp:questions] Orphan mode not suitable for time islands? (was: ntp clients out of sync with server)

2008-10-31 Thread David Woolley
David Woolley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: condition change from sys.peer to reject, status also changed ntpq -crv 46864 assID=46864 status=9014 reach, conf, 1 event, event_reach, srcadr=10.200.98.51, srcport=123, dstadr=10.200.98.110, dstport=123, leap=00, stratum=5, precision=-20,