[R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve R-wiki

2007-10-21 Thread Matthew Keller
Hi all, I will be teaching a graduate-level course on R at CU Boulder next semester. I have a teaching idea that might also help improve the R wiki page... I wanted to know what you all thought of it and wanted to solicit some advice about doing it. During the latter part of the course, students

[R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve R-wiki

2007-10-22 Thread David Airey
. I would love more quality online documentation around the same level as at UCLA (http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/; the Stata pages are fantastic), but I think I would like the first draft responsibility to fall to the well qualified instructor (Hi Matt!), and those with at least a Masters i

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2007-10-21 Thread Bill.Venables
61 4 8819 4402 Home Phone: +61 7 3286 7700 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cmis.csiro.au/bill.venables/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Keller Sent: Monday, 22 October 2007 9:45 AM To: R list Subject: [R] Input appreci

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2007-10-21 Thread Ricardo Pietrobon
CTED] > On Behalf Of Matthew Keller > Sent: Monday, 22 October 2007 9:45 AM > To: R list > Subject: [R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve > R-wiki > > Hi all, > > I will be teaching a graduate-level course on R at CU Boulder next > semester. I have a teac

Re: [R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve R-wiki

2007-10-22 Thread Bill.Venables
Ricardo Pietrobon Sent: Monday, 22 October 2007 2:56 PM To: Venables, Bill (CMIS, Cleveland) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve R-wiki Bill, very interesting comment. However, do you believe that by posting these

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2007-10-22 Thread John Kane
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Re: [R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve R-wiki

2007-10-22 Thread Ari Friedman
Just want to chime in and say that I think it's a great idea. It is, after all, a wiki, and even the bad entries will serve to be something like stubs that can be expanded upon by others and they play with them. When using e.g. the Gentoo wiki, I have run across some well-organized entries (a

Re: [R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve R-wiki

2007-10-22 Thread Matthew Keller
I appreciate the input. Off-list, someone suggested that I set up a class wiki, and have this be the first sieve. I could do some quality control there first (perhaps sending the link to this list serve at the end of the semester for others to check over), and then post the final manuals on the R w

Re: [R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve R-wiki

2007-10-23 Thread Philippe Grosjean
Hi Matt, The R-Wiki is actively maintained... the addition of material to it is up to R users with any kind of initiative like this being warmly welcome. As for Bill Venable's comment, I totally agree: you should better test your concept first, and be ready to have very poor, as well as probab

Re: [R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve R-wiki

2007-10-23 Thread John Kane
--- Philippe Grosjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -clip- > > I tend to give a lot of attention to documents > written by "beginners", > because they are the best people to tell what is > difficult and what is > not in R! It is the starting motivation for the R > Wiki, indeed. Might i

Re: [R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve R-wiki

2007-10-23 Thread hadley wickham
On 10/23/07, Philippe Grosjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Matt, > > The R-Wiki is actively maintained... the addition of material to it is > up to R users with any kind of initiative like this being warmly > welcome. As for Bill Venable's comment, I totally agree: you should > better test your

Re: [R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve R-wiki

2007-10-23 Thread John Kane
--- hadley wickham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/23/07, Philippe Grosjean > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Matt, > > > > The R-Wiki is actively maintained... the addition > of material to it is > > up to R users with any kind of initiative like > this being warmly > > welcome. As for Bill

Re: [R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve R-wiki

2007-10-23 Thread Tony Plate
hadley wickham wrote: > On 10/23/07, Philippe Grosjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi Matt, >> >> The R-Wiki is actively maintained... the addition of material to it is >> up to R users with any kind of initiative like this being warmly >> welcome. As for Bill Venable's comment, I totally agree:

Re: [R] Input appreciated: R teaching idea + a way to improve R-wiki

2007-10-23 Thread Philippe Grosjean
Tony Plate wrote: > hadley wickham wrote: >> On 10/23/07, Philippe Grosjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> I tend to give a lot of attention to documents written by "beginners", >>> because they are the best people to tell what is difficult and what is >>> not in R! It is the starting motiv