Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread RichieB
I just ordereed 2 spare Radios (great deal of € 129 each including battery). I also want to get 2 spare Touches, but I'll wait to see if the prices will come down. If Logitech actually stops making them, chances are the last ones will get dumped. -

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread hvb83
dasmueller wrote: > > 5. Decisions like the ones Logitech has made made and will make are > based on an individuals perception of what will sell. They are not made > solely to maintain the contentedness of past customers. I do not recall > anyone contacting me to assist me w or consult me about

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread erland
Drongo wrote: > After reading this very sad news I actually went out and got another > SBradio. Can anyone confirm that when I power it up and it tries to > update the firmware, I will still get the latest SB firmware and not the > UE firmware? > Confirmed, a Squeezebox Radio will remain a Squee

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread m1abrams
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread dasmueller
This has certainly been an interesting week on the forums. I am certainly not as tech savvy as many of you here are, but these are my thoughts. 1. There have been many posts about people having issues w the way the SB?LMS system works for them. If many of the options previously available are not

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Drongo
After reading this very sad news I actually went out and got another SBradio. Can anyone confirm that when I power it up and it tries to update the firmware, I will still get the latest SB firmware and not the UE firmware? Drongo -

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread DubMarc
squishy wrote: > OK, I think I've just about digested all this uproar. I guess my take is > this. > > Dumbing down the complexity in order to achieve a simpler > user-experience, more reliable functionality (eg alarm that works > without fail) and appeal to the wider mass market - I can appr

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread squishy
OK, I think I've just about digested all this uproar. I guess my take is this. Dumbing down the complexity in order to achieve a simpler user-experience, more reliable functionality (eg alarm that works without fail) and appeal to the wider mass market - I can appreciate that logic. But doin

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread squishy
maggior wrote: > What is the rational for the player needing to communicate with > Logitech's server to play local music? Software (a server) has to be > installed locally to play local music. It seems overly complicated and > unnecessary for the radio to have to communicate with Logitech's ser

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Scardeville
mherger wrote: > > This has me really concerned that I'm going to accidentally neuter my > > Radios. Is this firmware going to be pushed down via LMS? Or would > I > > have to intentionally seek out this "upgrade"??? > > No. We will make sure there's a big red warning sign before you apply > i

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread damiano_free
I have a qnap nas and wanted to buy a squeezebox radio to listen my local music in wifi, perhaps in the garden with the battery. With this new UE radio will be possible? exists the possibility to download the server software for my QNAP nas? or should I look for a squeezebox radio on the market ye

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread highland98
Wow! Why would Logitech Mgmt want to kill off such a unique, competitive and popular product? What boneheads. Do ya just want to give up the market to Sonos? The move surpasses understanding. highland98's Profile: http:

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread pallfreeman
So, they do what they should do with LMS, and turn it back into a music server. But then they stop supporting the mainstream music hardware. This is madness. Thanks for posting those screenshots, dude. I wish I'd bought whisky instead of unoaked chardonnay tonight. ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Pascal Hibon
JimC wrote: > I had typed a really long response, but then I figured there's really no > reason. You've summed it up perfectly, including the kudos for Michael > (and anyone else who is still there and trying build something great.) > > It is simply a sad day. > > > -=> Jim Completley agree w

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread kidstypike
Mnyb wrote: > Thats an improvement , but can you still specify more than one folder ? Yes +---+ |Filename: Pic07.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachme

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Mnyb
pallfreeman wrote: > Interesting that there's no count of images or videos displayed. Does > this mean that all the half-broken stuff for scanning/serving non-music > has gone bye-byes? > > A cunningly-disguised improvement, rather than the feared shipwreck? Thats an improvement , but can you s

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Mnyb
maggior wrote: > What is the rational for the player needing to communicate with > Logitech's server to play local music? Software (a server) has to be > installed locally to play local music. It seems overly complicated and > unnecessary for the radio to have to communicate with Logitech's ser

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread pallfreeman
kidstypike wrote: > Print screen of UE Music Library scanner details below, automatically > found my small iTunes library, "use iTunes" was checked by default. Interesting that there's no count of images or videos displayed. Does this mean that all the half-broken stuff for scanning/serving non-

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread kidstypike
Mnyb wrote: > They managed to dumb it down , wonder if it actually also gets simpler > ;) the goldmine is an advanced product that is simple to use ( for > example my my desktop PC ,I'm happy to use 0,1% of it's potential , the > rest is not in the way ). > Not a product that is plain simple with

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread marlo
If they want to make it more simple to use they should have added a USB slot for direct playback of files stored on a usb media and upnp support for playback of media in the home network, not another propietary software that has to be installed. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread maggior
What is the rational for the player needing to communicate with Logitech's server to play local music? Software (a server) has to be installed locally to play local music. It seems overly complicated and unnecessary for the radio to have to communicate with Logitech's server to play local music.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Mnyb
ajkidle wrote: > This has me really concerned that I'm going to accidentally neuter my > Radios. Is this firmware going to be pushed down via LMS? Or would I > have to intentionally seek out this "upgrade"??? > > And I too would love to see a feature comparison between the SB and UE > line. I

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread autopilot
Kuben72 wrote: > If you watch the commercial for the new Radio it says it can play local > music. How is that going to happen? Go back a page or two, it's well covered. autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/m

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Kuben72
Aah Smart Library Server - is that a new LMS? Kuben72's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15308 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Michael Herger
This has me really concerned that I'm going to accidentally neuter my Radios. Is this firmware going to be pushed down via LMS? Or would I have to intentionally seek out this "upgrade"??? No. We will make sure there's a big red warning sign before you apply it. And double check you really wa

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Michael Herger
If you watch the commercial for the new Radio it says it can play local music. How is that going to happen? Check this thread for UE Music Library (UEML) -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailm

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Kuben72
If you watch the commercial for the new Radio it says it can play local music. How is that going to happen? Kuben72's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15308 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevice

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread travelfotografer
ajkidle wrote: > I'm really failing to see what is gained via the UE architecture -- from > either Logitech's perspective or from the "average" user's. It does of > course alienate the install base, which is an impressive feat in and of > itself. Hey, let's abandon backward compatibility just f

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread ajkidle
mherger wrote: > > I presume it is this one? > > http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/10.0.0/ > > Yes. There's no way back. You've been warned. > > -- > > Michael This has me really concerned that I'm going to accidentally neuter my Radios. Is this firmware going to be pushed down

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread boxowl
What is the UE communication protocol between UE server and UE Radio? Is it UPNP/DLNA, the SB protocol or a new one? Is it possible to connect other devices than the UE Radio to the UE server? boxowl's Profile: http://forum

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Deja Vous - Again

2012-08-31 Thread squishy
Have subsequently only just seen the sticky thread about the *new* product line (UE) including radio. Somewhat supersedes my comments about consumer product vs geeks-only. Sounds like the way forward was to start-over in terms of architecture/software ? I think I need to digest it properly. ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Michael Herger
I presume it is this one? http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/10.0.0/ Yes. There's no way back. You've been warned. -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Asenath83
mherger wrote: > > Where can I get hold of a firmware *.bin? > > http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/ - not there yet, but that > > is where they're supposed to be > > -- > > Michael I presume it is this one? http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/10.0.0/

[SlimDevices: Radio] Deja Vous - Again

2012-08-31 Thread squishy
Haven't posted here in a long time. Which is actually testament to having finally got a stable and reliable system (using a local 7.5 server) - and then not touching it at all. Like many, I had suffered the very unreliable alarm function on the radio. Almost to the point of giving up on it. Anywa

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Soundman
alfista wrote: > Considering how people flock towards all kinds of services without any > concern of privacy, I seriously doubt this will make the slightest dent > in Logitech sales. You're probably right about that... unfortunately. Things may change once many people had to learn it the hard way

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread manielse
Michael or others, is there a chance that we can get a side-by-side comparison of the two products both in features and available out of the box radio streams? I think that this would help eliminate some confusion and questions. Like any new, soon to be released, announcement there is more questio

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Michael Herger
Does the online UE service have something nice and modern to use when you cue up local tracks ? No. The mobile app is considered your main control point. -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailm

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Michael Herger
I saw MH comment that he is running his server for UE Radio on Linux - so this means (implies at least) that there is still software for the end-user to install. Yes, if you want to have access to your local music collection, then you'll need to install the UE Music Library software. -- Mic

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread alfista
Soundman wrote: > From my point of view Logitech turns into the wrong direction and many > will turn their back to Logitech due to this change... Considering how people flock towards all kinds of services without any concern of privacy, I seriously doubt this will make the slightest dent in Logit

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread alfista
toby10 wrote: > Now, there is one big plus for MySB.com users that may help keep it > accessible for a reasonable time period. The new UE online server is > basically a stripped down MySB.com. So going forward it might not be > that big of a technological effort to keep both going *if* they are

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Soundman
Mnyb wrote: > A more sinister thing is that the UE server would be capable of storing > your whole playlist history . > Now that every track you play will be exposed to their server . > I think this is intentional this info can probably be used in some smart > ways with different online services

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread toby10
cliffpatte wrote: > In the UK, all products need to be fit for purpose from manufacture for > 7 years. So, if a product is "manufactured" to do internet radio, it > should do it without error for up to 7 years. Warranty is a different > issue. 7 more years of MySB.com would be great, but I doubt

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread awy
cliffpatte wrote: > In the UK, all products need to be fit for purpose from manufacture for > 7 years. So, if a product is "manufactured" to do internet radio, it > should do it without error for up to 7 years. Warranty is a different > issue. Can you provide a suitable reference?

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Paul Webster
mherger wrote: > > Does this mean that in the event of one's internet connection going > down > > (which used to happen frequently when I was with my former ISP, the > > major UK ISP), the UE Radio cannot be controlled to play locally > stored > > music? > > Yes, that's true. > That feels like

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread alfista
Paul Webster wrote: > I saw MH comment that he is running his server for UE Radio on Linux - > so this means (implies at least) that there is still software for the > end-user to install. > Isn't that the part that causes some end-users to have problems (the > installation a s running of software

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread kidstypike
Mnyb wrote: > The certainly seems to be done with the web-UI for controll :-/ > > Does the online UE service have something nice and modern to use when > you cue up local tracks ? > I don't know, I don't have a UERadio, so I can't get past the "Add Radio" screen.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread Mnyb
The certainly seems to be done with the web-UI for controll :-/ Does the online UE service have something nice and modern to use when you cue up local tracks ? A redeeming thing could be if they finally get any kind of smart playlist functionality using this more closed approach . A more sinis

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread hvb83
travelfotografer wrote: > Maybe Logitech found that people are now glued to their smartphones, and > there is no longer a need for a product like Touch. Instead, you just > need a Smart Radio Plus with digital outs, and you can play, queue, etc > your music files using the smartphone app. > > Ev

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2012-08-31 Thread kidstypike
Grumpy Bob wrote: > That's rather interesting, and for me that would be one reason not to > buy in to the new server-player system, were it to be extended to a HiFi > quality player that had the same limitation. > > Robert It looks like the player control for local files is at uesmartradio.com