[RBW] Re: What should I do with my slightly-too-small bike?

2012-10-16 Thread JL
My 59cm Rivendell Road Standard, I have finally decided, is too small for me + To be more specific - the fit issue I don't like is the long top-tube. It's 60cm, and even with a short-reach, tall stem, I still feel too stretched out on the bike. Huh? Is it too small or too big? The VO

[RBW] Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
OK, I know this is stretching it, but I'm usually pretty scrupulous about staying on topic - and I'm so excited about finishing this bike that I have to share with the group. I signed up for a weeklong one-on-one frame building course (bike camp, to my wife, who gave it to me as a Christmas

[RBW] Re: What should I do with my slightly-too-small bike?

2012-10-16 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I'm a little confused. The top tube is too long, but the bike is too small? A bigger bike will increase the top tube length. Few bikes are more comfortable with the saddle slid forward, which is often counterintuitive. If I'm looking at the correct photos, it doesn't appear that your stem is as

Re: [RBW] Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Lyle Bogart
Now *that* is a very classy looking ride! And Beechwood rims to boot! Very nicely done, Sir! Be careful though: riding fixed is known to be addictive :) Cheers! lyle On 16 October 2012 09:32, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: OK, I know this is stretching it, but

[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Railroad shirt and other rivish clothing

2012-10-16 Thread Zack
all gone, thanks for the interest! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FH-vCDXtSGMJ. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Ron Mc
no, I'd say it's definitely on topic. Really beautiful bike. Who made the tires? I have a friend to wants to find that color for one of his older bikes. On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:32:47 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: OK, I know this is stretching it, but I’m usually pretty scrupulous

[RBW] Re: Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread bwphoto
Gorgeous! That is truly a work of kinetic art in both form and function. It deserves its' own gallery installation (said as I reach for my drool cup). On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:32:47 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: OK, I know this is stretching it, but I’m usually pretty scrupulous about

Re: [RBW] Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Dave
Your post is much more On Topic than half the stuff on the list lately, so don't sweat it. That is one pretty ride, and that whole endeavor sounds like it must have been a LOT of fun! On 10/16/2012 6:32 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J wrote: OK, I know this is stretching it, but I'm usually

[RBW] Re: Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Leslie
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:16:17 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: no, I'd say it's definitely on topic. Really beautiful bike. Who made the tires? I have a friend to wants to find that color for one of his older bikes. Agree, not a stretch at all. Riv parts are cool. Look like

[RBW] Re: Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Zack
It's beautiful. Would love to hear more about the experience of building the frame too! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: [RBW] Re: Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Peter Morgano
Love the whole thing so much. It must be an awesome sense of pride to ride something that you made yourself that is both beautiful and functional. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: It's beautiful. Would love to hear more about the experience of building the

RE: [RBW] Re: Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
It was fantastic. Mike is a great teacher, and a master builder, and a great guy, too. I wasn't particularly gifted at welding, but he walks you carefully through the process, and it's a fair statement to say that I built the frame (with indispensable help from Mike). A couple of times when

[RBW] Re: My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Hey, I'm always striving for the George Clooney look, and apologize to no one (uh, except George)... The Riv look? It's what other bikes should aspire to ... Can we please see pics??? Congrats! On Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:23:18 PM UTC-4, Marcus80 wrote: Jeez, I really sweat the details

RE: [RBW] Re: My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
+1 on pics. And a bike is never done - you'll be tinkering forever, and soon enough it will look like nobody's bike but yours. Congrats! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:50 AM

Re: [RBW] Re: FSA Metropolis 2-Speed Interal-Geared Crankset

2012-10-16 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I heard back from Sam Patterson... One of his testers has logged 5000 miles on the Metropolis using a fixed cog... but I was surprised to discover the Patterson Transmission actually freewheels; it doesn't engage like a typical fixie. He said you CAN ride it with a freewheel or fixed gear, but

[RBW] My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I think this happens too often. The standard Riv look is classic and great, but it doesn't satisfy the need of some to personalize the bike. Of course, personalizing it will not impress most of those who are accustomed to the standard package, but if you like electric pink lightning-bolt Deep-V

[RBW] Re: My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread lungimsam
Scroll down to the 12th rider picture on this page and tyou will see one extreme pinked-out personalized looking riv: http://www.rideyourbike.com/steellugs.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion

[RBW] Re: My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread lungimsam
Now here is a personalized Rivendell: Pink pedals, saddle, bartape, fenders, water bottles, saddle bag, cable housings, bell, tube protecter...

[RBW] Re: My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread lungimsam
Now here is a personalized Rivendell Bleriot (not mine): Pink pedals, saddle, bartape, fenders, water bottles, saddle bag, cable housings, bell, tube protecter... *

RE: [RBW] Re: My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
And a Paul Flatbed on the REAR... From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lungimsam Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:33 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: My new 65 Homer. Now here is a personalized Rivendell:

RE: [RBW] Re: My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
And it appears that bike is the personal build of Aaron himself, of Aaron's Bikes. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allingham II, Thomas J Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:35 AM To: 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE:

[RBW] Re: My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread lungimsam
Check out this cat's personalized Riv. Pink pedals, saddle, bartape, fenders, water bottles, saddle bag, cable housings, bell, tube protecter... *

[RBW] Re: Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Jeremy Till
Thanks for the pics and report! I went and met Mike and saw the shop when I was visiting my family back in Massachusetts last summer, and he is just a nice guy that obviously loves what he does. I've been a framebuilding fanboy for a long time, and have recently begun scheming how to learn

[RBW] Re: My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread Joe Bernard
WOW..a little too brave for my tastes. I may put that Patterson 2-speed system on the Saluki in lieu of the triple Sugino and a front derailer. Match that with with my CNC-era Amarican-made Precision Billet rear mech, and I'd say that's different enough, eh? Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Matthew J
Really great for cyclists at large that Mike does this. Glad you had a good experience. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this

[RBW] A very custom Rivendell

2012-10-16 Thread Joe Bernard
And now for something completely different. A very long toptube for a size 50.6 frame, CENTERpull braze-ons, 650b, and FUSCHIA! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-0027.htm Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread Mattt
The most important part. How did it ride? Enjoy it. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6r322LA8PRsJ. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Anyone use a bike horn? Please recommend.

2012-10-16 Thread Kerry Kunsman
You may not like them, but an air horn is exactly what I use, and have for quite a number of years. Mine is the Airzound, by Delta http://deltacycle.com/Airzound-Bike-Horn. I've been a bike commuter for the past 18 years and find the horn quite handy if I think someone on a side street is

Re: [RBW] Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread James Chang
Damn, Thomas, that's really nice. it even cooler the fact that you actually built it. You are now officially a frame builder. How much does a class like this run? Interested!!! James Chang On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: OK, I

[RBW] Re: Anyone use a bike horn? Please recommend.

2012-10-16 Thread mike
I live in a bike-aware area, so your situation may well be different... I lean towards visibility over noise. A blinky headlight is a pretty good start for motorists turning across your path of travel and is pretty small/cheap. It's more of a prevention than a reaction. For a horn to be

[RBW] Re: My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Lampe
You say it looks like everyone else's Rivendellas if that's a bad thing!:) Actually, I completely understand your thinking. When a new bicycle is a big deal you want it to be unique to you. If I had the money to splurge on a Homer, the major change I would make would be to get a TA

[RBW] Re: What should I do with my slightly-too-small bike?

2012-10-16 Thread dweendaddy
It sounds like the issue is that you don't love it. There are so many bikes to love out there, I wouldn't keep one (For too long) that you don't love. Edwin it took a few years to figure out a bike was too small for me and now my sister is loving it Williamson Nashville, TN -- You received

[RBW] Dumbell Spanner

2012-10-16 Thread dweendaddy
I lost one of my favorite tools the other day - the 10 in 1 dumbell spanner brought from Rivendell. I was googling around and found it at: http://www.vueltausa.com/vuelta-daily-specials/dumbell-spanner.html $1 a piece. I bought 5 so I can give away a few! Edwin dumb(ell) and happy Nashville, TN

Re: [RBW] My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread David Verrinder
I had a similar experience buying and building my Hillborne. My advice? Revel in the look! It is a sign of solid, comfortable cycling unknown to those who plagiarized the racing look without even knowing it. David On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Marcus80 marcu...@aol.com wrote: Jeez, I

[RBW] FS: 64cm Atlantis

2012-10-16 Thread John Johnson
Is your bike still available? If yes, what year did you purchase it new? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QiZftbjoUo4J. To post to

Re: [RBW] Anyone use a bike horn? Please recommend.

2012-10-16 Thread Peter Morgano
Best horn here in NYC is a big booming voice, everyone here just ignores regular sounding horns and I personally am way too passive agressive for an Airhorn in traffic. Although they do come in handy when you are camping and some curious critters come too close, it is a good way to keep them away

Re: [RBW] My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread Peter Morgano
Ride the heck out of it, then in a couple of years treat yourself to a custom paint job! On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:59 PM, David Verrinder dverrin...@gmail.comwrote: I had a similar experience buying and building my Hillborne. My advice? Revel in the look! It is a sign of solid, comfortable

Re: [RBW] Re: FSA Metropolis 2-Speed Interal-Geared Crankset

2012-10-16 Thread Peter Morgano
So could I use this to make my alfine hub a 16 speed setup? I am only wary of the way that the gear cable has to be routed around the plastic anti-turn unit. I think if i had this setup I would fashion a small groove in the top so the cable cout run over it rather than under. But that is just my

[RBW] Re: A very custom Rivendell

2012-10-16 Thread Leslie
The small fuchsia doesn't catch my attention, but the Bomba is the little sister of mine: mine's a 56, but otherwise identical. The 61 Atlantis is a Toyo frame, a good value saving you some off of the W'ford ones. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: A very custom Rivendell

2012-10-16 Thread Peter Morgano
Methinks the stand over on that Atlantis is a bit too close to my 86cm PBH, good thing too... :) On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: The small fuchsia doesn't catch my attention, but the Bomba is the little sister of mine: mine's a 56, but otherwise

[RBW] Re: Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread ascpgh
Wow. That is spectacular! A.N.T. Bike Mike, frame building (torches, mills, jigs, etc.), and a new bike project as well. Nicely done, on several levels. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view

[RBW] Re: A very custom Rivendell

2012-10-16 Thread Brewster Fong
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:07:41 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: And now for something completely different. A very long toptube for a size 50.6 frame, CENTERpull braze-ons, 650b, and FUSCHIA! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-0027.htm Well, at least it doesn't have a double top

Re: [RBW] A very custom Rivendell

2012-10-16 Thread Steven Frederick
Customs are made in Taiwan now? On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: And now for something completely different. A very long toptube for a size 50.6 frame, CENTERpull braze-ons, 650b, and FUSCHIA! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-0027.htm Joe Bernard

[RBW] Re: New Quickbeam! Pictures!

2012-10-16 Thread Jeremy Till
Trying some new handlebars, which has me thinking about bike fit. Some of my musing might be heretical to Rivendell fit philosophy--be forewarned! http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2012/10/quickbeam-updatebike-fit-musings-is.html On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:47:14 PM UTC-7, Jeremy

Re: [RBW] A very custom Rivendell

2012-10-16 Thread Jeremy Till
Fairly certain that's a typo. On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:16:12 PM UTC-7, stevef wrote: Customs are made in Taiwan now? On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: And now for something completely different. A very long toptube for a size

Re: [RBW] A very custom Rivendell

2012-10-16 Thread Leslie
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:16:12 PM UTC-4, stevef wrote: Customs are made in Taiwan now? Huh? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: [RBW] A very custom Rivendell

2012-10-16 Thread Steven Frederick
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:16:12 PM UTC-4, stevef wrote: Customs are made in Taiwan now? Huh? That's what it says in the description. I suspect and hope it's a typo/error... -- You received this message because

Re: [RBW] Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
It was $3,000 for the week, which considering how late Mike worked every night is a pretty darn good deal. Plus delicious lunches, and of course your own custom A.N.T. Frame/fork! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:25 PM, James Chang lohech...@gmail.commailto:lohech...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: FSA Metropolis 2-Speed Interal-Geared Crankset

2012-10-16 Thread Joe Bernard
There's a chap on www.bentrideronline.com who's running one with his IGH 8-speed trike. On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:32:32 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: So could I use this to make my alfine hub a 16 speed setup? I am only wary of the way that the gear cable has to be routed around the

Re: [RBW] A very custom Rivendell

2012-10-16 Thread Leslie
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:53:38 PM UTC-4, stevef wrote: That's what it says in the description. I suspect and hope it's a typo/error... Ah! Totally missed that... has to be a typo, I'd think -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

Re: [RBW] Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Lyle Bogart
That's just a pretty awesome deal, I think. . . perhaps one day. . . On 16 October 2012 15:55, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: It was $3,000 for the week, which considering how late Mike worked every night is a pretty darn good deal. Plus delicious lunches, and

Re: RE: [RBW] Re: Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Joan Oppel
Tom - congratulations! That is an amazing bike, and an amazing experience (we talked about it a little when you visited for Grant's visit). Very impressive. It must be thrilling to ride a bike you made yourself. Thanks for all the different angle picturesJoanPS - I share your enthusiasm for

Re: [RBW] Re: FSA Metropolis 2-Speed Interal-Geared Crankset

2012-10-16 Thread Jeremy Till
One of the current Raleigh models does exactly that, pairing this crankset with a Nexus 8spd hub: http://www.raleighusa.com/bikes/fitness/cadent-i2x8-13/ On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:32:32 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: So could I use this to make my alfine hub a 16 speed setup? I am only

[RBW] Bill Walton's bike

2012-10-16 Thread Aaron Thomas
As pictured outside my LBShttp://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/526012_10151515133681729_1153346723_n.jpg. Get that man a second top tube! His head tube is probably as long as my seat tube... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: Bill Walton's bike

2012-10-16 Thread Brewster Fong
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:03:27 PM UTC-7, Aaron Thomas wrote: As pictured outside my LBShttp://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/526012_10151515133681729_1153346723_n.jpg. Get that man a second top tube! Yeah, but if you do that, how is that bike ever going to plane Good

Re: [RBW] Re: New Quickbeam! Pictures!

2012-10-16 Thread Eric Daume
If bars too high is your issue, try flipped over On One Marys. They feel pretty darn good, and look sporty to boot. Eric Daume Dublin OH On Oct 16, 2012 3:17 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Trying some new handlebars, which has me thinking about bike fit. Some of my musing might

Re: [RBW] Bill Walton's bike

2012-10-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 15:03 -0700, Aaron Thomas wrote: As pictured outside my LBS. Get that man a second top tube! Or, you could say, if that guy doesn't need a second top tube who on earth does? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: New Quickbeam! Pictures!

2012-10-16 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Joe B: Just do it, on the wheel build; don't be shy. If I can do it, anybody can. Just keep Sheldon's article by you side and you can't go wrong. T Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.commailto:joerem...@gmail.com wrote: A Bay Area Quickbeam ride

Re: [RBW] Bill Walton's bike

2012-10-16 Thread James Warren
I can't see the picture while I'm at work, but if I remember correctly, Bill's bike is not steel, correct? Is it possible that additional tubes serve a purpose on large steel frames but not as much on large frames of other materials, like carbon fiber, which are stiffer? -Original

Re: [RBW] Re: FSA Metropolis 2-Speed Interal-Geared Crankset

2012-10-16 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Folks use Schlumpf 2-speed cranks with Rohloff hubs -- I don't see how the FSA with the Alfine shd be any different. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.commailto:uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: So could I use this to make my alfine hub a 16 speed

[RBW] Re: Bill Walton's bike

2012-10-16 Thread Michael_S
pretty sure it's steel. Made by Holland. The tubes look very oversized... maybe triple oversize? ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Bill Walton's bike

2012-10-16 Thread Michael_S
opp's shuda checked... looks like ti with a carbon sleeve. ~mike On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:50:30 PM UTC-7, Michael_S wrote: pretty sure it's steel. Made by Holland. The tubes look very oversized... maybe triple oversize? ~mike -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Bill Walton's bike

2012-10-16 Thread tarik saleh
Bill Walton did ride steel bikes for a long time: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coalandice/2395745184/in/pool-1189260@N20 For other exceptionally large bikes including lots of rivs I suggest browsing the gigantic freekin bikes pool at flickr: http://www.flickr.com/groups/1189260@N20/pool or the

[RBW] Re: Marginally OT

2012-10-16 Thread Frank Brose
I think it's a helluva deal and a fantastic looking bike as well. You not only have a bike you built yourself but a weeks worth of time with a master of the trade. Hang a value on that. On Oct 16, 2:55 pm, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: It was $3,000 for the week,

[RBW] Re: What should I do with my slightly-too-small bike?

2012-10-16 Thread Michael_S
That is what I think the issue is... long legs and short torso. If you use the PBH measurement only you can end up too stretched out if you are built like that. The bars are rotated up as well to shorten reach.The shorter stem would help but it doesn't make it a touring bike. another

[RBW] Re: New Quickbeam! Pictures!

2012-10-16 Thread Jim M.
Rather than cut the fork, I'd try a stem angled down first. looks good jim m wc ca On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:17:22 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote: Trying some new handlebars, which has me thinking about bike fit. Some of my musing might be heretical to Rivendell fit philosophy--be

[RBW] Re: What should I do with my slightly-too-small bike?

2012-10-16 Thread rob markwardt
..or buy my 82 Schwinn Voyager. It's about 62 x 58 and is getting lonely hanging in my garage. I was going to part it out but I can't bring myself to do it. Currently a frame with all parts (original) attached..no wheels. Pic here shows it set up for my 88.5 pbh.

[RBW] Re: My new 65 Homer.

2012-10-16 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
As a fellow 65 Homer-er... a hearty congratulations on the new bike. Even if it is a typical Riv build, it's nice to see pictures. Did you go with 1TT or 2TT? Does anyone know if there are other Riv models/sizes that have 2TT as an option? I've had my 65 Homer for about a year and it's been