[RBW] Re: Grey Blue, Blue Grey Sam Hillborne touch up paint.

Thanks for the tips. They led me to checking around a bit and found this testors paint color http://www.testors.com/products/136917. Just by eyeballin' it, it looks pretty close to me. What do you think? I'm gonna try and go down to the local hobby shop here in the next couple of days and

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

Erl, Enjoyed the post and pictures. I think it's a wonderful notion to do a ride like this with your boys. I love the Strawberry Quick drink, I favor a Strawberry Malt myself. I really look to the future post and pictures of this great family tour. ~Hugh On Monday, April 21, 2014 6:53:30 AM U

Re: [RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question

thanks to for all the responses. I have some carsick panniers enroute thanks to Ron. Now another question as I look at the bike, will my neo-retros stick out too far? does it matter if the bag touches them? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Eric Daume wrote: > Panniers are no problem without th

Re: [RBW] Re: Bending Nitto Mini Front Rack - Anyone?

I donno about that rack. Seems to shear off right at the fork. Seen it twice, and once wasn't on Manny's bike so you know it wasn't his fault. Cause you know. cc I'll be trash talkin' all week On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:54 PM, William! wrote: > At least a couple folks have done this. Here are s

[RBW] Re: Bending Nitto Mini Front Rack - Anyone?

At least a couple folks have done this. Here are some threads discussing it: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/ce9iMtup-2A https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/S2pled8RvIk http://www.cyclofiend.com/working/2006/heywood-rackphotos.html And someone who's d

[RBW] Re: Grey Blue, Blue Grey Sam Hillborne touch up paint.

Richard, Check out Testors model paint at a hobby store. There is a variety of colors to choose. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to r

[RBW] WTB: Single Speed Crank and bb

Hey all, I'm on the hunt for a 46-ish tooth single speed crank. I know there are a lot of options out there, but I like this group and trust that anything you might be trying to part ways with will be as good or better than what the internet tells me to buy. Also interested in an old double cr

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 on Atlantis (pics)

Looks a lot like the Soma C lines on my Atlantis. I'm loving the cushy ride. dougP On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:41:24 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > 700x38 looks "just right" Not too fat, not too thin. > > On Friday, March 14, 2014 12:31:49 PM UTC-7, Ty Graham wrote: >> >> >> I put the

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 on Atlantis (pics)

700x38 looks "just right" Not too fat, not too thin. On Friday, March 14, 2014 12:31:49 PM UTC-7, Ty Graham wrote: > > > I put the new Compass 700x38 EL on my Atlantis. I short ride only, but I > love them. > > I had GB Cypres EL before, so I was pre-sold. I will post an update as I > get m

[RBW] Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 on Atlantis (pics)

Ty, Great looking set-up. How do you like the lugged stem? Great beausage on the leather tape - how long have you had it on your bars? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivi

[RBW] Re: Grey Blue, Blue Grey Sam Hillborne touch up paint.

Cyclofiend came up with this for some of the legacy models. I also have a Sam and prefer having him on the pristine side rather than the Beausage. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 6:37:11 PM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote: > > Hi All, > > I know Riv suggests ju

Re: [RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question

Panniers are no problem without the Picolo attached. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:42 PM, timv1234 wrote: > So the general consensus is, yes you can run panniers with the piccolo > attached, you have to have clips large enough to fit the beefy tubing, and > you have to watch the spacing so you don

[RBW] Grey Blue, Blue Grey Sam Hillborne touch up paint.

Hi All, I know Riv suggests just touching paint chips up with any old color...but I definitely lean towards the finding a close color match side of things. With that said, anyone have any success finding a close color match for touching up the greyish blue blueish grey Sam Hillborne color. I

[RBW] Re: Find your own stick!

looks like the one that went through my tire last week On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:46:47 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote: > > I love their sense of humor. Now back to the hunt for that dang stick. > > ~Hugh > > On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:39:59 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: >> >> Rivendell's new shi

Re: [RBW] Haxes and Atchetts

"That's nice, but consequently, if you ever do have to chop wood, you're more than likely going to suck at it." Yeah, you know, cause practicing at things is so 20th century On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote: > Riv content: a $280 dollar axe (including shippi

[RBW] clemcessories?

http://www.rivbike.com/category-s/815.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this grou

[RBW] Haxes and Atchetts

Riv content: a $280 dollar axe (including shipping)? ;) Kidding aside, I wonder if the twisting motion when the axe head hits the wood with force would be hard on the wrists. Might only be an issue with those first few powerful strikes if at all. Definitely impressive though. -Aaron Young The Da

[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA

Dear Andy, Thanks for the information and suggestions. I really appreciate it. Dear Tony, I look forward to hearing about your trip in May. As Andy wrote, the trail is quite nice and in great shape. Perhaps we can work in a weekend ride before your trip. All the best, Erl -- You received th

[RBW] Re: Find your own stick!

I love their sense of humor. Now back to the hunt for that dang stick. ~Hugh On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:39:59 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Rivendell's new shifter/derailer combo. So cheap they won't even *give *it > away! > > http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/clem01.htm > > Joe "shift shi

[RBW] WTB: small Nigel Smythe bag(s)

im looking for either the Keven's type bag and/or banana bag in tweed mike goldman warwick,r.i. The #1 Worst Carb Ever? Click to Learn #1 Carb that Kills Your Blood Sugar (Don't Eat This!) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/53585e3

Re: [RBW] Re: Smoking might be good for you

Made me smile, too. BTW, it reminds me that the book Road to Valor is a nice biography of Bartali. Not sure if all allegations are true, but if so, he really was a hero in more than just racing. Pretty sure this book was talke about on this list when it came out. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On We

[RBW] Find your own stick!

Rivendell's new shifter/derailer combo. So cheap they won't even *give *it away! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/clem01.htm Joe "shift shift shift" Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Caterpillar Crawl Ride.

Erl, Thanks. I do love it and when I have more time I'll do a loop up Big "T" and down Angeles Crest Hwy. I done it in the past but on a speedier bike. Truth be told I do need to mix it up so everyday not quite realistic for me. And Erl, you have some amazing rides out on the other coast just fant

Re: [RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack

Welcome to the scourge of Google Groups. I'm generally familiar with its supreme uselessness now, but it took months. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 2:41:45 PM UTC-7, Tom Harrop wrote: > > Firstly, this is now sold. Thanks for the interest. > > I was intending for people use the 'Reply to author' f

[RBW] Caterpillar Crawl Ride.

Hugh, that is a great way to start the day. I would have a hard time not making that ride into the canyon everyday. Beautiful! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it

[RBW] Haxes and Atchetts

Wow that thing is neat! Maybe the video is misleading but if didn't look like he was having to swing that hard even. Not much on looks though... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

[RBW] Haxes and Atchetts

Wow that thing is neat! Maybe the video is misleading but if didn't look like he was having to swing that hard even. Not much on looks though... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

[RBW] Re: Smoking might be good for you

Tom, Thank you for bringing a smile to my face. The great Gino Bartali smoked too and won two tours 10 years apart. On some level they must have known it wasn't beneficial to their riding? Or maybe not. ~Hugh On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:33:36 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote: > > and maybe not

[RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question

So the general consensus is, yes you can run panniers with the piccolo attached, you have to have clips large enough to fit the beefy tubing, and you have to watch the spacing so you don't interfere with some of the jogs and other parts of the rack. Can you use panniers on the Moose rack witho

Re: [RBW] Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 on Atlantis (pics)

I see both Paul cantis and XTR cantis in the same photo set? On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Ty Graham wrote: > > I put the new Compass 700x38 EL on my Atlantis. I short ride only, but I > love them. > > I had GB Cypres EL before, so I was pre-sold. I will post an update as I > get more mile

[RBW] WTT/WTB: My Paul Neo Retro Silver for your Paul Touring Canti Silver

Anyone have a Paul touring canti laying around they'd like to trade for a neo retro? Would also buy it from ya if you don't want to trade. I just need one. (And yes, I did learn why it's called a *Touring* canti when I installed my pannier-capable big front rack) -- You received this message

[RBW] Smoking might be good for you

and maybe not -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegro

[RBW] Re: Pedal Stroke "Click"

Well Velcro and rubber are a far sight less messy than grease & bearings - glad you've solved the mystery Dennis in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a

Re: [RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack

Firstly, this is now sold. Thanks for the interest. I was intending for people use the 'Reply to author' function, but I've personally found that to be extremely unreliable so I can understand why you wouldn't. Anyway, if I'd seen that you'd been trying to get in touch I would have emailed you,

[RBW] Re: Going main stream or is that main street.

Unfortunately, looking over their gear that is linked to this email, they don't have a clue about bikepacking yet. Every bike bag is small and better suited to day trips. They have always carried some panniers but these are ill suited for bikepacking. I've been an REI member since the early 70's

Re: [RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack

Hi Tom, No problem at all. I was looking for your private "off-line" email to send there too but couldn't find. Thanks, Bruce > On Apr 23, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Tom Harrop wrote: > > Oh crap! I got a couple of replies off list, but I somehow missed these > posts. My apologies, I wasn't ig

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass 700x38 on Atlantis (pics)

Still like 'em? I've been using JB's for years and years and never had a problem (they never flat!) but the current set's about worn out and these tires are tempting me... William On Friday, March 14, 2014 12:31:49 PM UTC-7, Ty Graham wrote: > > > I put the new Compass 700x38 EL on my Atlantis.

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Platrack and Jack Brown Blue

Both the rack and tires are sold. Thanks! On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 2:20:36 PM UTC-4, Lynne Fitz wrote: > > have you still got that Platrack? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

Re: [RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack

Ach; context is everything. Sorry. (Though you did sound peeved.) On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Bruce Smitham wrote: > I agree. It just feels wrong. > > Bruce > > > > On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Perhaps this should be addressed directly to the OP > > > On Wed

Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

Segwaying a bit, a somewhat odd local character (whom I've not seen for a couple of years, btw) had a Parlee road frame converted into a fixed gear with cheap rattrap pedals sans clips 'n' straps and cheap scavenged wheels. But damn if that thing wasn't light! I hefted it and, despite the heavy met

[RBW] Caterpillar Crawl Ride.

Read it here ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. T

Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:09:05 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > "Looking at that bike, I could see that it had 700x23 tires, probably > pumped up to 120psi, and it would be very difficult to get a 25 in there. > I'll passGood Luck!" > > Exactly correct! It is impressive to see a 15l

[RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

Foundry Cycles, which I believe is another QBP brand, has a couple of (relatively) budget oriented carbon frames that may fit the bill. The Thresher is their "road endurance" model, sporting disc brakes and clearance for 28c (per Tree Fort Bikes website). The Augur is a "cross utility" bike t

Re: [RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question

I had that issue once, and it was because the cassette wasn't on tight enough. There was wiggle room between the small cog and lockring. In my case, it was because I was trying to use a Hyperglide lockring and small cog on a Uniglide hub. With the proper small cog and lockring, the chatter went

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Platrack and Jack Brown Blue

have you still got that Platrack? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question

+1. I find that if I eyeball my limit screw on the small-cog end, that I need to back off the H limit screw another quarter turn or so to quiet it down in that cog. Set up "correctly" and quietly the R Der looks like it's going a little bit beyond the small cog. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014

Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

"Looking at that bike, I could see that it had 700x23 tires, probably pumped up to 120psi, and it would be very difficult to get a 25 in there. I'll passGood Luck!" Exactly correct! It is impressive to see a 15lb bike when it's on the scale, but some of us actually like to ride. Furthermo

Re: [RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question

I don't think he means low-trail vs. high-trail chatter, I think he means metal on metal chatter. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > More adjustment screw adjusting? I don't know exactly what you mean by > "chatter," but maybe you need to

[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question

More adjustment screw adjusting? I don't know exactly what you mean by "chatter," but maybe you need to let the rear derailleur come down a little further? Philip www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:10:47 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: > > so i am all set up with the 7 speed cassette, but

[RBW] WTB NITTO - MARK M1 RIVENDELL FRONT/REAR MINI RACK and decaleur

WTB NITTO - MARK M1 RIVENDELL FRONT/REAR MINI RACK and decaleur or another system to attach an Acorn boxy rando bag to my wife's 55cm Cheviot. It would be great to have the front tab to attach a dyno front light like the Luxos B since I am equipping her wheelset with a dyno hub. Any suggestions

Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:53:18 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: > > > That bike weighed in at a little over 15lbs, but when a few friends test > road it, they said that bike was very, very stiff to the point of being > uncomfortable! Looking at that bike, I could see that it had 700x23 tires,

[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question

Maybe a rack or fender bolt? Sometimes they stick out to the inside enough to get in the way. You'll need to set-up the bike so you can turn the pedals while you look at the area of the noise. dougP On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 6:18:36 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: > chatter: it sounds like the chai

Re: [RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack

Oh crap! I got a couple of replies off list, but I somehow missed these posts. My apologies, I wasn't ignoring you on purpose. Acually I thought I ticked the "email updates to me" button, as well. Bruce, I have two people interested but if they both fall through I'll get in touch. Sorry again.

Re: [RBW] Going main stream or is that main street.

A friend of mine works at REI in the bike shop and said that the "Bikepacking" thing was the new directive from the corporate offices. I'd noticed a mountain bike set up for 24-48 hour camping trips just as you enter the door of the Reno REI. Addison Wilhite, M.A. Academy of Arts, Careers and T

Re: [RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack

I agree. It just feels wrong. Bruce > On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Perhaps this should be addressed directly to the OP > > >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Bruce Smitham wrote: >> I inquired a few times that I would take the bag and support rack but you

Re: [RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack

Perhaps this should be addressed directly to the OP On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Bruce Smitham wrote: > I inquired a few times that I would take the bag and support rack but you > never responded. Is this a phantom posting > > -- > You received this message because you are subscri

Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

> That bike weighed in at a little over 15lbs, but when a few friends test road it, they said that bike was very, very stiff to the point of being uncomfortable! Looking at that bike, I could see that it had 700x23 tires, probably >pumped up to 120psi, and it would be very difficult to get a

[RBW] FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack

I inquired a few times that I would take the bag and support rack but you never responded. Is this a phantom posting -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:21:49 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > They didn't publish the frame weight in BQ. Calfees site has a page for > the adventure series, and says the complete bike pictured weighs 16.5lb > without fenders, and would retail for ~$6300 complete (SRAM Force). It is >

[RBW] Going main stream or is that main street.

Well it looks like Grant and company have done such a good job promoting camping & bicycling that someone took notice. http://www.rei.com/h/bikepacking?cm_mmc=email_com_gm-_-bikepacking-_-042314-_-cta_bikepacking&RMID=20140423_Bikepacking_SL1&RRID=2553353&ev11=1&ev36=NULL ~Hugh -- You receive

Re: [RBW] WTB: Silver Shifter Levers

Hi Michael. I have a set of the Dia-Compe version of the shifters if you want to go that route. They are the older version that is a little more decorative than the Riv version. I can send you pics if you are interested. Dan On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Michael Ullmer wrote: > I'm wonderi

[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question

looks to me like cassette is riveted together upon first inspection. isn't a fender or rack screw, everything seems good there. i think this one is going to need a visit to the LBS. I'll report back on what it was. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group

[RBW] Haxes and Atchetts

Apropos of steel and wood: http://www.geek.com/news/physics-exploiting-axe-splits-wood-in-record-time-1591725/ Pretty compelling. - J / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] WTB: Silver Shifter Levers

I'm wondering if anyone has some Silver Shifter Levers in their parts bin? I acquired a bike that had bar end shifters, Rivendell pods matched with really old suntour shifters that do not work particularly well at all. gummy and rusted. I'd like to put together a Silver Shifter set-up on a new

Re: [RBW] Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

The people on this list have forgotten more about bikes than I’ll ever know but I was around the golf business when aerospace engineers and materials scientists started to revolutionize the clubs and the ball. I’m sure that the intent was to help the average player make better contact, get th

[RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

Would any fork manufacturer? I think most would tell you to do a good visual check and if they're really in covering our butt mode take it in for a qualified service personnel to take a look. Old article http://velonews.competitor.com/2002/12/bikes-and-tech/technical-faq/technical-qa-with-lenna

Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

When I get it I'll let you know! It should be shipping out either today or tomorrow. I've got to piece together a few remaining parts, but shouldn't take too long. I'm building it with a Schmidt SonDeluxe, Rear Phil Wood, friction barcons, Noodle bar, should be pretty classy! Ok...back to the orig

[RBW] Bending Nitto Mini Front Rack - Anyone?

The install on the '03/'04 Atlantis sits quite the opposite of level. No mid fork braze on so the clamps can situate wherever. Anyone have any experience leveling up an upward-sloping Nitto Mini Front? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners B

Re: [RBW] Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

AMEN On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:44:03 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: > at some point, we're all hanging out in the church of lugged steel here, > and I think some reverence is due > > On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:54:23 AM UTC-5, JimD wrote: >> >> +1 >> Had a Madone. >> >> It was a fine bike

[RBW] Re: Pedal Stroke "Click"

glad you found it and that it wasn't something that could leave stranded in the boonies. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:18:44 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Those who said "Saddle!" win partial points, but ultimately we were all > off. Rivet Saddles have a "bridge" rivet tying the two side

Re: [RBW] Re: Finished build - Thank you to everyone who contributed parts.

we all approve - great job On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:36:59 PM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote: > > Smart lookin' bike. > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:53 PM, WETH >wrote: > >> Michael, >> That is a great build. I love and use both the slickersack and >> Saddlesack on a daily basis. I hope you

Re: [RBW] Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

AMEN! On Apr 23, 2014 10:44 AM, "Ron Mc" wrote: > at some point, we're all hanging out in the church of lugged steel here, > and I think some reverence is due > > On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:54:23 AM UTC-5, JimD wrote: >> >> +1 >> Had a Madone. >> >> It was a fine bike. >> >> I Like my Riv Cus

Re: [RBW] Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

at some point, we're all hanging out in the church of lugged steel here, and I think some reverence is due On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:54:23 AM UTC-5, JimD wrote: > > +1 > Had a Madone. > > It was a fine bike. > > I Like my Riv Custom way more. It rides and handles a skitch better. > > It l

[RBW] Re: Pedal Stroke "Click"

Those who said "Saddle!" win partial points, but ultimately we were all off. Rivet Saddles have a "bridge" rivet tying the two sides of the saddle together (rather than lacing). Well, the metal rivets on the bottom of that wonderful bridge were clicking into the top of my Nitto S83 seat post wit

Re: [RBW] Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.

+1 Had a Madone. It was a fine bike. I Like my Riv Custom way more. It rides and handles a skitch better. It looks WAY better. The Madone was a tool, the Riv is an object of desire. -JimD On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:23 AM, RJM wrote: > I've done both carbon and steel. I prefer the steel frame ev