[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

i believe that's the same info that was floating around in the back of my head as well, Mike. but now im wondering if i gained it from a reputable source. pretty sure about the kaisei heat treated part. not so sure about the specs. and hunqapillars moved to waterford a while back. i guess it d

Re: [RBW] Broken Crank

Moral of story: Don't buy used cranks from Mr. Fiend! I'd love to have a quality steel crankset BTW. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > Kudos to VO to having the best of all answers. > > I have a couple docmented failures - both exhibit that "minor/easy to miss > crack tha

[RBW] Re: Brake Cable Hanger - Fork Crown Mount

That's a nice looking bit. There are (or at least _were_) stem mounted options. I had set up the Quickbeam that way as I'd used a headset which precluded a standard sandwich. Scroll down to the last two photos here. http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2006/ssg017-cyclofiend0206.html It's pretty

Re: [RBW] Broken Crank

Kudos to VO to having the best of all answers. I have a couple docmented failures - both exhibit that "minor/easy to miss crack that migrated until it failed" light/dark mode: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157603388190693/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157622

Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550

Good job there! Get him to hold it for a few weeks and come down March 21st and get it in person!!! On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Joe Bunik wrote: > Hey! > I'm already on it!!! (metaphorically and literally) ;-) > =- Joe Bunik > Walnut Creek, CA > > On 2/12/15, cyclotourist wrote: > > Messag

Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550

Hey! I'm already on it!!! (metaphorically and literally) ;-) =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 2/12/15, cyclotourist wrote: > Message has been been in a holding pattern for two days it looks like... > you've got some interested people (Joe)! > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Gregg Vurbeff wro

[RBW] Rivendell A. Homer Hilson (65cm) for sale by original owner built by Waterford

Rivendell A. Homer Hilson (65cm) for sale by original owner built by Waterford. My reason for selling is want the same frame in a 63cm size (I'm willing to trade for another Waterford Built AHH). This build new was slightly over $4,400. Fenders, bottle cages in the photos have been removed. Cur

Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550

Message has been been in a holding pattern for two days it looks like... you've got some interested people (Joe)! On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Gregg Vurbeff wrote: > This is my listing on Craigslist. > > http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html > > Check it and and let me know

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

I recall reading that the Hunq used Kaisei heat treated tubing in 9-6-9 OS. This tubing has a higher tensile strength than Ox Plat which is what the Atlantis uses. Which only means it's more resistant to denting and not any stiffer. I also thought that the Hunq's were made in Taiwan and not

[RBW] Re: Winter/Snowy pics

I hear you on the frozen brakes! I have to kick my derailleurs to get them to shift most mornings. Not the best long term care for the bike but it gets me there! gabe On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 7:53:12 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote: > > Here's one from a grocery stop on tonight's evening co

[RBW] Re: Winter/Snowy pics

great pics - how do those tires take on the snow? On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 8:15:25 AM UTC-6, gabe mcgann wrote: > > So it appears that most folks on this group tend to be in friendly dry and > warmish climates, so this is a call out to the snow belt riders. Any > pictures of your snowy co

[RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550

This is my listing on Craigslist. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html Check it and and let me know if your interested. Thanks! Gregg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and s

[RBW] Re: Bar Ends vs Paul Thumbies? Anyone tried both?

Speaking of bar ends vs Thumbies, what are people's thoughts on the two for drop bars? I'm reluctantly switching from downtube shifters on my touring bike (not stable enough fully loaded and going fast on the highway) and have had the idea of running thumbies instead of bar ends since I have bee

[RBW] Re: Broken Crank

This is a classic fatigue failure -- looks like a fracture had existed for a while before it sheared off. There's a small write up in RR42 about the exact same failure (and location, probably safe to say this one of the highest stress areas in a crank arm). http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf

Re: [RBW] Busses/Bike thieves

Sounds like a good reason to have a folding bicycle where you can bring it on the bus with you. Harder to steal when there is no barrier between you and the bicycle but this is kind of sad that people go thru this crap. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Ray Shine wrote: > You know, despite these

[RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Bar

Hi Amit, I bought one of those flat-but-bent-back Nitto bars from Jitensha several years ago. It's got the red Nitto heat-treat band around it, like the $65 unavailable one on the Jitensha Studio site. I wanted more room outside the last bends, so I made some press-fit solid 6061 aluminum exten

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

hi, mark. i got a chance to ride both bikes before making my choice on what to buy. i rode a 2001 atlantis with 26 inch wheels in a 54/55 and the first generation hunq in 58 that was too big. the changes to the 2nd generation hunq won me over as did the chance to run 700c/29'er tires in my siz

[RBW] Re: Minor Handlebar Obsession

Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. As Patrick notes i can see how one can spend a lot of effort in a quest for the perfect bar. I confess i might fall into that catagory. Anyway I've decided to build up my baby with Albas and give them a good try. Then later maybe the Albatross. I v

[RBW] Re: PSA: Are you a cheapskate that's into safety?

Dear Matthew, I have noticed joggers have taken up the neon vest in some numbers locally, and a few of the local commuters have as well. I look forward to the day when, in addition to "s/he was/wasn't wearing a helmet," we'll get to read "s/he was/wasn't wearing reflective anklebands and a sa

[RBW] Re: 61x60 c-c Riv Custom San Diego CL $550

crap wheels but otherwise a great buy. And it's a mile form my front door! a couple of cm's too big unfortunately ~mike Carlsbad Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving em

Re: [RBW] Broken Crank

In my experience, VO is very good about standing behind their products. When my VO bottle cage broke, they sent a new one. When a Nitto cage (bought from someone else) broke, I was out of luck. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com Twitter @CampyOnlyGuy Blog: CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com > On Feb 12, 2015, at

Re: [RBW] 61x60 c-c Riv Custom San Diego CL $550

Rear wheel is 48 spoked. Front appears to be 32 (harder to count). On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:34 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > Yes, I remember back in 1996 when Grant PetrsOn was making custom bikes. > A shame he put down the torch... > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Peter Adler wrote: > >> Kind

Re: [RBW] Broken Crank

GREAT to hear a response like that!!! On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Benedikt wrote: > Actually I sent VO an email with a picture of the crank. There response > was,"What address do you want us to send your new replacement crank?" > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed t

Re: [RBW] 61x60 c-c Riv Custom San Diego CL $550

Yes, I remember back in 1996 when Grant PetrsOn was making custom bikes. A shame he put down the torch... On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Peter Adler wrote: > Kind of an odd combination. > > Reynolds 753 (with a French label, no less!) is normally thought of as a > tubeset for lightweights; not

Re: [RBW] 61x60 c-c Riv Custom San Diego CL $550

Kind of an odd combination. Reynolds 753 (with a French label, no less!) is normally thought of as a tubeset for lightweights; not a natural choice for a road (*not* touring) frame for a big rider. 531 fork makes sense, but it's hard to see why they wouldn't have used all 531. Maybe the origina

[RBW] Broken Crank

Actually I sent VO an email with a picture of the crank. There response was,"What address do you want us to send your new replacement crank?" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Brake Cable Hanger - Fork Crown Mount

Works just fine, I've done it on two bikes. You may need to file the Nitto Mini rack spade where it needs to fit in the Tektro hanger. You'll also probably be trimming some portion of the threaded spade, no big deal. What gets tricky is simply the limited clearance for the straddle cable betwee

Re: [RBW] 61x60 c-c Riv Custom San Diego CL $550

Email sent! ;-) =- Joe Bunik "bringin' er home" Walnut Creek, CA On 2/12/15, 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: > Well, this seems attractive. A bit smaller, I'd have bought it by now. > > http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html > > ~pb > > -- > You received this message because you

[RBW] 61x60 c-c Riv Custom San Diego CL $550

Well, this seems attractive. A bit smaller, I'd have bought it by now. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html ~pb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fro

Re: [RBW] Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

Ok so a totally not off topic question, what tubing does the Cheviot have. More Sam or homer? Anyone ride all 3? On Feb 12, 2015 8:44 PM, "Joe Broach" wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I recently had a discussion with an experienced frame builder

Re: [RBW] Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Aaron Young <1ce...@gmail.com> wrote: > I recently had a discussion with an experienced frame builder and it came > up that tubing diameter has a bigger effect than the thickness or thinness > of the tubes; at least with common wall thicknesses. Apparently there a

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Are you a cheapskate that's into safety?

I'm sure PB Bikes is going to be selling them for $99, but with free shipping. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Matthew J wrote: > I was so pumped on seeing Geir's post the Ikea meets EU standards > (European trip in planning) I googled. > > Among other things, I noticed there are people selling

[RBW] PSA: Are you a cheapskate that's into safety?

The only problem with the IKEA vests is they are a pain to assemble :) Dan Abelson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubs

Re: [RBW] Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

The most noticeable difference I can see is that the Atlantis has fancier lugs. If it's also marginally lighter and I didn't need the extra stoutness, I would certainly pay and extra 300 for those qualities. On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 4:07:59 PM UTC-8, A. L Young wrote: > > I recently ha

[RBW] Re: No more MUSA shorts?!?!?!

Glad I bought mine when I did. Must have been the last pair. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. T

Re: [RBW] Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

I recently had a discussion with an experienced frame builder and it came up that tubing diameter has a bigger effect than the thickness or thinness of the tubes; at least with common wall thicknesses. Apparently there are online calculators that show flex characteristics of a tube and this is whe

RE: [RBW] Re: PSA: Are you a cheapskate that's into safety?

My RUSA EN-1150 vest (made in France) states that it is good for 50 washings, not 25. On Feb 12, 2015 4:03 PM, "Geir Bentzen" wrote: > FYI > About the IKEA safety vest; > EN 1150 means the vest complies with the European Union regulations (CE) > for private use. EN 471 means it complies with the

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Are you a cheapskate that's into safety?

I was so pumped on seeing Geir's post the Ikea meets EU standards (European trip in planning) I googled. Among other things, I noticed there are people selling the same vest on eBay for well over what Ikea charges. One born every minute indeed. -- You received this message because you are s

RE: [RBW] Re: PSA: Are you a cheapskate that's into safety?

FYI About the IKEA safety vest; EN 1150 means the vest complies with the European Union regulations (CE) for private use. EN 471 means it complies with the regulations for professional use. The vest should not be cleaned more than 25 times before it is discarded, which is common for all makes and

[RBW] FS: hubs

Phil Wood touring cassette hub. 135 mm, 36h, silver. Not as shiny as new, but bearings are smooth and the pawls click crisply. $185 shipped in US. Phil Wood double-fixed high flange track hub, bolt-on. 120 mm (for QB or SO). 32h. black. Not new, but the bearings are smooth and it's still pretty

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Are you a cheapskate that's into safety?

Ikea Patrull Vest >From the page: Good to know Complies with EN ISO 20471:2013 and ANSI/ISEA 107-2010. I believe EN ISO 20471 exceeds/isbetterthan EN 1150, but don't take my word for it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] FS: Willow Chainrings

Last update on this thread for a bit, then I'll take a break from my sales pitch. Offering another sale option: 10 chainrings for $100 shipped http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/willow-chainrings-lot-of-10 Thanks again, David Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: Brake Cable Hanger - Fork Crown Mount

Yup, was inspired by Kirk Hammett to beef up the front end. Thanks for noticing! -Kai On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 10:08:33 PM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote: > > Wow. It's a metal party up in there. > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Kainalu > > wrote: > >> >>

Re: [RBW] Busses/Bike thieves

Veering way OT, but here's video of the best bus driver ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRrnOhlPA0o On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Ray Shine wrote: > I won't ID the transit agency that I work for, but part of my job is to > monitor on-board video of all rubber-tire revenue vehicles in a

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

I have a memory of reading some specs on the AHH and at most, it was 8/5/8. It was something like Roadeo = 7/4/7, AHH = 8/5/8, Atlantis = 9/6/9. I don't remember a mention of butted tubes but I suspect the Roadeo and AHH have them and maybe the Atlantis. On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at

Re: [RBW] Busses/Bike thieves

You know, despite these rolling smash-and-grab deals, it's still easy and very convenient to take a bus for part of one's ride. Each day, there are hundreds of cyclists who use the front racks to carry a bike along a section of a commute, or a sightseeing trip. The thefts are a miniscule number

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

Meh. I'm not sure when my Atlantis is from, but I'm thinking early 2000's or so. If it's heavier than others, I'd never know with all the crap I've got bolted/strapped/hanging off of it. I am, however, jealous of the Atlantis' (Atlanti?) with the fancier lugs and mid-fork braze-ons. Very jealous.

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

I met an ex-employee of Rivendell, and we talked a bit. I bought my Atlantis in '98 or so. He said, "You have one of the good ones. The newer Atlantis is made from heavier, cheaper tube sets." I love my Atlantis. Would I love a new one as much? Probably. Would I buy a new Atlantis? Maybe. --

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

Maybe quantity? complexity of paint and lugs? I think the tubing would be very marginal in the total scheme of things. Visit Nova Cycle's website. You can see the pricing of a ton of different tube-sets and lugs. The pricing is all fairly comparable. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:22 PM, drew beckmey

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

i guess what im wondering is, if the hilsen has proprietary tubes, the atlantis has thick yet standard dbl butted tubes and the hunq has straight gauge, why are they all roughly the same price? obviously, tubing is far from the most expensive part of building a bike, but i assume that the labor

Re: [RBW] Busses/Bike thieves

Hrm. Trolley busses. Northern California city. A place with hills. ;) On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Ray Shine wrote: > I won't ID the transit agency that I work for, but part of my job is to > monitor on-board video of all rubber-tire revenue vehicles in a major > NorCal city. We have video

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

When he was repairing my 57 AHH, my friend remarked that the tubing was surprisingly light, maybe 8 5 8 or something like that. So yeah, there be differences! On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Surlyprof wrote: > This from the Hillborne catalog: > > "*Silver Tubes. They look normal from the outsi

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

This from the Hillborne catalog: "*Silver Tubes. They look normal from the outside, but* *Silver tubes are our own design and are better for it.* *Rather than using industry-standard double-butted tubing* *picked stock from a catalogue, we shifted the wall* *thickness around to better address

[RBW] Re: Bar Ends vs Paul Thumbies? Anyone tried both?

My Ergon GC-1 Biokork grips just arrived and they feel good in my hand even before they are mounted on my albas. Thanks again everyone for your advice & input. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from t

Re: [RBW] Busses/Bike thieves

I won't ID the transit agency that I work for, but part of my job is to monitor on-board video of all rubber-tire revenue vehicles in a major NorCal city. We have video of suspects running into the street in front of a bus, causing it to stop abruptly, then removing bikes and riding away with th

[RBW] Re: Busses/Bike thieves

I've had lights and other small accessories swiped off my bike as it rested on the bike racks of a bus. Just that is annoying... accumulatively expensive... and makes for a dark ride/walk home. I was always fearful if I missed the train and had to take the bus (pre-Riv). I hope the Hillborne

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Are you a cheapskate that's into safety?

Mesh vests, ANSI 2, and 3 are light, airy, easily removed and stored. I see a few cyclists wearing them here in LA, but not many. There are too many stealth riders, night and day. I've been wearing ANSI 2 and 3 for years, not fashion, but certainly visible. Joe Hogg LA, CA On 02/10/2015 08:22 A

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Are you a cheapskate that's into safety?

En-1150? Is there a link to their site for this item? On Feb 11, 2015 3:06 PM, "Lynne Fitz" wrote: > The Ikea vests are EN11-whatever certified, which means they meet CE > standards for both visibility and reflectivity. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Busses/Bike thieves

I've heard of that happening, but two in one day from one route, crazy! Any sort of wheel immobilizer would work good, even a cheapy little retractable cable lock like skiers use. Just something to keep it from being rideable. One of those fast cable ones could even be wrapped around the base of th

[RBW] Re: PSA: Are you a cheapskate that's into safety?

> I wear a reflective sash made with stretchy material that I barely feel when I'm wearing it, and it's also easy to pack. My primary motivation for using a vest is I can take it off and go into work, the theater, businesses, etc., without my attire screaming I came by bike. Your solution soun

[RBW] Re: No more MUSA shorts?!?!?!

Believe I saw that report as well Joe. Riv is a small but reliable company, It will have the MUSA shorts available in due time. On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 12:42:27 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I read somewhere that the MUSA shorts and whatnot are being re-engineered > for Spring.

Re: [RBW] Broken Crank

All cranks do have a lifespan, but it's usually in the 100s of thousands of miles. It depends on the rider – some riders are harder of drivetrains than others, but it also depends on the cranks. Material choice, the way they are made (net shape forging

Re: [RBW] Broken Crank

I agree that alloy parts have a finite lifespan, but 13,000 miles for a crank arm seems a little short to me. I would definitely contact VO for a replacement--I've had very good experiences with them in this regard. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com Twitter @CampyOnlyGuy Blog: CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Fork-mount cable stop on seatstay bridge?

On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 9:42:05 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: > > Do you think these Linux jokes are flying over most people's heads? > Just curious. > What's a bit crazy, back in the mid-late 90's, I was pushing all my friends towards Linux I'd been a DOS guy, and WinNT3.51, runni

[RBW] Re: Broken Crank

There is darker discoloration on both pieces (bottom left, top right). My understanding is that indicates where the crack and thus oxidation/exposure/somesuch formed and was ridden for x amount of time. It sure looks like a very hard place to see a crack on inspection! Glad you're OK and weren'

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

I think that may be one of the misconceptions about Rivendells and Grant has even made comments that support this. Rivendell's use expensive tube sets because who would buy a $2000 frame knowing it had plain ole' 4130 cro-mo? People expect fancy steel in a frame that expensive. However, sinc

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

That's what I was told re bombadil tubing too. 1 straight gauge. On Feb 12, 2015 1:24 AM, "drew beckmeyer" wrote: > really? straight gauge? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop rece

[RBW] Broken Crank

Have you contacted VO? I can't imagine that they would be too happy with this performance. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners

[RBW] Broken Crank

The short answer is yes. Aluminum will eventually fatigue and fail, and 13k is pretty good mileage on a crank arm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an em

[RBW] Broken Crank

I seem to remember seeing a similar post to this a few weeks/months ago but here it is ... My VO crank that had 13,000 miles on it busted this morning on my way into work. I was at a stop. Pushed down with my right foot, locked my left clip in, pushed down with the right and "clunk" crank arm ca

[RBW] Busses/Bike thieves

A friend of mine witnessed this yesterday. A man put his bike on the front rack of one of our Metro busses here in Seattle then got on the bus. A second man then took the guy's bike off the rack and rode away on it. STOLE IT! Right of the front of the bus. The bus driver said that was the second