[RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Last time I checked Surly's website they specifically said NOT to use kickstands on their chainstays. On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 6:35:58 PM UTC-7, WETH wrote: > > Drew, > I use one on my Surly LHT with sandwich-no kickstand plate on an LHT. It > has supported a good 50lbs of weight with no

Re: [RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
I would think a single legger would inflict more twisting than a double legger. On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 6:30:53 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > I'll bet it has to do with twisting forces if and when the bike falls > over with a load. As Shawn said, "I sure wish they'd posted that >

Re: [RBW] Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread Edwin W
Don't want to jinx myself, but I've had my double legged on my Sam's plate for 4000 miles or so. Not too many loaded (unless you call my 35+ pound bike loaded) miles, but I often use it with my work pannier or a kid seat on the back. Maybe I'll be a bit more careful going forward. Living on t

Re: [RBW] Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread cyclotourist
I have a double kicker sandwich on my tandem and my Quickbeam, but have it attached to a plate on my wife's Glorius... I was trying to protect the chainstay paint, but might have to revisit this set up! Any pics or further description, Shawn? On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 6:35 PM, WETH wrote: > Drew, >

[RBW] Re: Tech question: Silver bar-end pods with Dura Ace 10spd DT shifters?

2015-08-14 Thread Dave Johnston
I don't know about travel but the main issue with the silver pods is the raised square is at a slightly different angle than a shimano pod. This means that the end of the lever points towards the rear hub (not straight down) in down position and points towards the sky in the up position. It all

[RBW] Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread WETH
Drew, I use one on my Surly LHT with sandwich-no kickstand plate on an LHT. It has supported a good 50lbs of weight with no problems while the bike was fully loaded on tour. I do hear it creak on occasion when used with a heavy load. My only other complaints are front wheel flop and issues of

Re: [RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
I'll bet it has to do with twisting forces if and when the bike falls over with a load. As Shawn said, "I sure wish they'd posted that warning about the double-leggers not using the kickstand plate BEFORE my double-legger ruined the kickstand plate on my hunqapillar! Grr. Now, I don't have a k

Re: [RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread Patrick Moore
If a kickstand plate won't support a 2-leg kickstand, it is badly designed. I installed a VO 2-leg stand on my briefly owned Sam Hill, and saw no problem or intimation of a problem; have others used 2-legs on Sam Hills? On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > The purpose of a k

Re: [RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
The purpose of a kickstand plate is to support a kickstand. Evidently experience has shown them that it won't properly support a 2-legged kickstand. Using the built-in plate is fine -- I'm pretty sure I'm using a built-in plate with a 2-legged kick stand on my Kogswell P/R Porteur -- but I do

[RBW] 63cm Canti-Rom F/F/HS on LA Craigslist

2015-08-14 Thread sameness
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/5170826531.html Not mine, no relation to seller, etc. Looks to be less than 4 miles from my house, so if you need assistance with pickup/packing/shipping, drop me a line, I'm happy to help. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this messag

[RBW] PSA: Romulus for sale. The price is your birth year.

2015-08-14 Thread Evan E.
Forgive me if this has already been posted, but here's a pristine Romulus for sale at College Park Bicycles/Mt. Airy Bicycles in Maryland: http://bike123.com/used_bikes/used_sbikesview.php?ID=3528 The owner, Larry Black, told me this via email just today: "To celebrate our 36th birthday next we

[RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread ted
Sounds very vexing, sorry it happened to you. Could you explain in more detail what the double-legger did to the kickstand plate on your Hunqapillar? On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 4:37:58 PM UTC-7, shawn m. wrote: > > I sure wish they'd posted that warning about the double-leggers not using > t

[RBW] Re: Bike Flights experience so far...pretty good

2015-08-14 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm vacationing in Europe after PBP and using them to ship from St Quentin to Vienna, where I'll pick it up and fly home. Thus far I can only attest to the customer service, which has been great. The shipping is $200, including $4000 insurance. That is much cheaper than my alternative of shippin

[RBW] Re: Oh but I love my Ram!

2015-08-14 Thread ted
Sounds lovely indeed. If you will permit a small digression, do you use a White bottom bracket with your White VBC cranks, and if you do have you had any trouble with bottom bracket creaking or clicking, and if you have had such noises, can you offer any advice on how to eliminate them? thnks

[RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread drew
hey steve, here are the photos i was referencing that show the kickstand attached directly to the plate, which is what it seems they are saying not to do... on the same page

[RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread shawn m.
I sure wish they'd posted that warning about the double-leggers not using the kickstand plate BEFORE my double-legger ruined the kickstand plate on my hunqapillar! Grr. Now, I don't have a kickstand at all... On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 2:44:00 PM UTC-7, drew wrote: > > so, i havent been amazi

[RBW] Re: Oh but I love my Ram!

2015-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Beautiful! You get tailwinds when you turn around in a headwind? You are a blessed man! Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e

[RBW] Oh but I love my Ram!

2015-08-14 Thread Michael Hechmer
After a long summer of many guest and busyness I got out for a two hour ride this morning. It was humid and I went sans helmet (lets not have an argument). I rode for an hour into the wind before swinging around, picking up fresh pavement, a wide shoulder and a delightful tailwind. I'm somew

[RBW] Re: Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread Michael Hechmer
Drew, sorry to read about your problem and your frustration. I'm not sure I can answer your precise question, but We have the two legged kickstand on our tandem, which weighs well over 40lbs. It works fine, unless one leg hits land that is much softer than the other. I haven't even bothe

Re: [RBW] Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/14/2015 05:44 PM, drew wrote: i read this on the rivendell site "*NOTE: Don't bolt these on to Riv kickstand plates, those are for single leggers only. If you want to use a double, use the sandwich and run the bolt through the plate.**"* * * now, i dont really know what that means. does

[RBW] Re: How to try DT shifters on a blue Sam?

2015-08-14 Thread Lungimsam
Arthur: Which size did you get? Looks like they have a lot of sizes online. I'm thinking of using a piece of scrap inner tube to line it with. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivin

[RBW] Double leg Kickstands... lets talk

2015-08-14 Thread drew
so, i havent been amazingly satisfied with my pletscher dbl leg stand. it just doesnt seem that stable with a load and it tends to make creaking noises that are not reassuring. i was at a bike shop a few months ago, and saw the same kickstand with a sticker that said "30lb weight limit" (it was

[RBW] Re: Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

2015-08-14 Thread Eric
I apologize since I read only a portion of the posts in this thread but what about pop up shops in certain targeted locations for a limited duration? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam or Simpleone alternative

2015-08-14 Thread Eric Daume
+1 to what Patrick said. I used an ENO to convert my Gunnar Crosshairs to a fixed gear, but once I got a Surly Cross Check with horizontal dropouts, I "un-eccentric'ed" it. It's a nice piece of gear, but I'd rather have a frame with horizontal dropouts for dedicated single speed use. David: you ne

Re: [RBW] ~ ~ ~ Meandering ~ ~ ~

2015-08-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
No, the crashes or component failures are an infrequent interruption. Mostly what we do when we're /not/ crashing is JRA. On 08/14/2015 04:18 PM, Philip Williamson wrote: I thought JRA always precedes a crash or component failure. "I was just riding along when..." -- You received this mes

Re: [RBW] ~ ~ ~ Meandering ~ ~ ~

2015-08-14 Thread Philip Williamson
I thought JRA always precedes a crash or component failure. "I was just riding along when..." Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

2015-08-14 Thread Garth
FWIW and not about sale procedure : It's a complete turn-away-from-the-sale for me to buy or sell parts that are not made at least relatively clean . At least a good wipe or wash of dirt and grease . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owner

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam or Simpleone alternative

2015-08-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Note that your chain adjustment, and therefore freedom to mix cog and ring, is limited with the ENO compared to long horizontals or track ends. Also, the eccentricity can move your wheel up and down, possibly, depending on tire size and frame design, interfering with tire clearance at seatstay brid

[RBW] Re: questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

2015-08-14 Thread hsmitham
Hi Bill, Like others I've bought many items from this group. I haven't sold too much though. My experiences have all been top notch. With that said I will like the Jim our moderator caution you that you make transactions at your own risk. This is a searchable forum and there is very little vett

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam or Simpleone alternative

2015-08-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
That time between ordering and receiving is dangerous! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 1:27:51 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote: > > This has me seriously rethinking what I want my Clem frameset to be. > David > Chicago -- You received this message because you are subsc

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam or Simpleone alternative

2015-08-14 Thread David Banzer
This has me seriously rethinking what I want my Clem frameset to be. David Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubsc

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam or Simpleone alternative

2015-08-14 Thread john muhl
I was trying to substitute for my Zeus track bike and after waiting around on a right sized QB/SO I did what others have done and use the White Industries ENO hub to convert a geared bike into a single speed. If you want a SS and want a Rivendell any of the current models paired with an ENO wou

[RBW] Re: Bike Flights experience so far...pretty good

2015-08-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
Frameset plus wheels with a few other bits, but quite a bit lighter weight than a fully assembled bike. Full-sized bike box, but only 20lbs of total packed weight On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 11:06:09 AM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > > Full bike with wheels? Uh.. yuh... that's a great pric

[RBW] Re: Bike Flights experience so far...pretty good

2015-08-14 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Full bike with wheels? Uh.. yuh... that's a great price. On Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 5:25:49 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I just shipped a bike box from California to Maryland, insured for $1400 > for $63. That's pretty darned reasonable. > > On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 3:30:01 PM

[RBW] Re: Best Riv frame for rear childseat?

2015-08-14 Thread Geir Bentzen
I used to carry both my sons on child seats and I noticed that one of my bikes back in Norway was less happy with the heavy weight right behind my heavy body than others. That bike had a frame and fork close to my present 62 cm Hunqapillar so I am inclined to advise you to go for a longer chain

Re: [RBW] Re: Very initial impressions of new Elk Pass 559 X 32 mm tire.

2015-08-14 Thread Jim Bronson
Compass having tires that officially support tubeless probably deserves a thread of it's own. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:48 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > Compass just announced tubeless compatible tires in 26", 650b, and 700c > Check it out on the BQ blog. > https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/08/12/co

[RBW] Re: WTB: Left Bar-End Shifter Pod.

2015-08-14 Thread David Banzer
Pod obtained. Thanks! David Chicago On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 9:16:03 AM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote: > > Looking for a bar-end shifter pod, left, or whatever would work with a > left downtube shifter. > Really just need the 1, so ideally if someone has an orphaned pod. > Contact offlist if yo

Re: [RBW] ~ ~ ~ Meandering ~ ~ ~

2015-08-14 Thread Garth
There is no new name for meandering , including "jra". Meandering is nothing new either, it just is. All "inventions" and all things called "new" are never more than realizing what has already been present. This goes for me, you and all. This is Life's charm .

[RBW] Re: ~ ~ ~ Meandering ~ ~ ~

2015-08-14 Thread Andy Williams
Meandoneuring!Not "mean." "Me-an!" A On Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 12:14:50 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Meandoneering! > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 1:05:10 PM UTC-6, Garth wrote: >> >> >> My new-to me favorite riding style is simply meanderin

Re: [RBW] Re: Single Speed Sam on Blug

2015-08-14 Thread Tim Gavin
I have one of those VO Constructeur racks; I tried it on my girlfriend's Soma San Marcos. Its drawback was that it has straight bottom struts, so it only fits properly on a bike with bosses on the front of the fork ends (like most current Rivs). Her SM only has bosses on the rear of the fork ends

Re: [RBW] WTB: Left Bar-End Shifter Pod.

2015-08-14 Thread Bruce Gordon
I may have some Left Shifter pods at the shop - please give me a call at the shop after 9:30 am California time. Regards, Bruce Gordon Bruce Gordon Cycles www.bgcycles.com www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:16 AM, David Banzer wrote: > Looking for a bar-end s

[RBW] WTB: Left Bar-End Shifter Pod.

2015-08-14 Thread David Banzer
Looking for a bar-end shifter pod, left, or whatever would work with a left downtube shifter. Really just need the 1, so ideally if someone has an orphaned pod. Contact offlist if you can. Thanks, David Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Ow

[RBW] Re: Tech question: Silver bar-end pods with Dura Ace 10spd DT shifters?

2015-08-14 Thread Mark Reimer
Well I answered my own question - it works! I filed down the spacers and the semi-circular raised section in the pod and everything mounts up nicely and I have all 10 clicks from the shifter without further mods. Looks like this will work nicely!

Re: [RBW] ~ ~ ~ Meandering ~ ~ ~

2015-08-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
I honestly do not understand why you feel the need to come up with a new name for this. There already is a name for this, and what's more, the most well known acronym in all of cycling: *JRA* On 08/14/2015 08:27 AM, Garth wrote: DP , By the very nature of Meandering , there is nothing in

[RBW] Re: FS: Marathon Dureme 42/622

2015-08-14 Thread Marc Irwin
SOLD! On Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 1:34:32 PM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote: > > Sale pending. > > On Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 11:31:57 AM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote: >> >> A pair of sparsely used Marathon Dureme tires in very good condition. >> $60 USPS priority included. >> >> >>

Re: [RBW] ~ ~ ~ Meandering ~ ~ ~

2015-08-14 Thread Garth
DP , By the very nature of Meandering , there is nothing in it's way . No objects-obstacles-objections-disapprovals. Just unlimited and full awareness of it's own harmony as the Complete and Whole World. Here everything "just works/flows" perfectly in it's inherent and natural harmony .