Re: [RBW] Lightest 650b wheelset that can take a 42mm tire?

2018-01-16 Thread Reed Kennedy
Probably something like this: https://pacenticycledesign.com/products/brevet-wheel-set-27-5-650b-rim-brake-11speed-shimano Though if you wanted to get truly silly you could buy A23 rims in 36 hole, build them up skipping every other hole with only 18 spokes, and use one of the ridiculous-light hub

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread lum gim fong
Single speed riders are shiftless people. 😩😉🚴🏻🚴🏻🚴🏻🚴🏻🚴🏻🚴🏻🚴🏻 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...

[RBW] Re: New Roadini or hang on to Sam

2018-01-16 Thread Philip Reimer
Here are my thoughts. If your Sam would fit me, you should get rid of it! In all honesty I almost always feel that new bike urge. And it is fun to get a new one. But taking that old bike for a spin usually makes me fall in love again and takes care of my desire for something new. So get some par

[RBW] Re: Front rack for panniers and handlebar bag

2018-01-16 Thread Craig Montgomery
Big rack...good. I like it because it keeps the weight in close to the forks and it's very solid. https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/38959268282/in/dateposted/ I found the 27F gets kind of flexible if you go heavy: https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/8537639981 It puts the wei

[RBW] Re: New Roadini or hang on to Sam

2018-01-16 Thread Nate in Oakland
I commute on a Sam and love it. I’ve test ridden a Roadini for about an hour, and now I can’t get that bike out of my head. I don’t know if it’s just because it didn’t have all the heavy commuter gear, but it felt real quick and springy compared to Sam. Oh, and still smth. I really don’t

Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Syndrome

2018-01-16 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Dear Scott, With utmost respect you left out banjos and chisels. We all have our weaknesses. Grin. Best, Curtis On Jan 16, 2018 9:02 PM, "Scott McLain" wrote: > Bikes are no different from fly rods, guitars, golf clubs, or potato > chips. It’s hard to stop at just one! > > Just go with the

Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Syndrome

2018-01-16 Thread Scott McLain
Bikes are no different from fly rods, guitars, golf clubs, or potato chips. It’s hard to stop at just one! Just go with the Atlantis. Enjoy it. Then when you get the itch buy something used off the list. Like a Ram or Saluki, just for fun. Skimp on your car. -- You received this message b

[RBW] Re: New Roadini or hang on to Sam

2018-01-16 Thread dstein
If money isn't an issue and you can offset the costs by selling the Sam, I'd sell it and get a Roadini. For paved riding with no racks/load I'd place my bets there. I have ridden a Sam, but not a Roadini or Rodeo so can't comment specifically on the ride comparison though. I have ridden a Sam a

[RBW] Looking for Riv Reader #37

2018-01-16 Thread steve
Does anyone have an extra or one they no longer need? Would like to see this one. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch

Re: [RBW] Fixed n’ Frosty Winter Medley

2018-01-16 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Actually, I just confirmed what I thought was a 24oz is really a 27oz non-insulated widemouth Kleen Kanteen that fits the iris cage same as my 20oz insulated HydroFlask. These are the two that have the same interchangeable KK wide caps. The 27oz KK is a little taller so I think the 24oz non-in

[RBW] WTB: 58 cm Joe Appaloosa, butternut

2018-01-16 Thread Jim S.
Anybody looking to sell their 58 Joe Appaloosa in butternut? I could buy frame or complete. Send me a PM if interested, thanks. Jim Simeri -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving em

[RBW] Re: New Roadini or hang on to Sam

2018-01-16 Thread iamkeith
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 6:32:49 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote: Call RBW And ask which of their bikes has the thinnest tubing and shortest > chains stays. I’m no expert but I think ... they will tell you that your priorities are skewed and that you're shopping at the wrong bike co

Re: [RBW] Fixed n’ Frosty Winter Medley

2018-01-16 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
I have a few Kleen kanteen as well as hydro flask and they both come in a variety of sizes and wide/narrow mouth openings... but it seems the narrow mouth generally are internally threaded for the cap (exposing the mouth lip to dirt, etc. as previously noted) and the wide mouth have external thr

[RBW] Re: New Roadini or hang on to Sam

2018-01-16 Thread Bob Lovejoy
Here is (hopefully) a link to Bill's post that John referenced: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/9i5ROKi9ETs/gQjYkP6hCwAJ And I thought it wise too, enough that the Sam path is what I will be taking. That said, the 61cm Roadini (1TT) versus the 62cm Sam (2TT) might be a slightly

[RBW] Lightest 650b wheelset that can take a 42mm tire?

2018-01-16 Thread lum gim fong
Anyone know what that is these days? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, se

[RBW] New Roadini or hang on to Sam

2018-01-16 Thread John G.
Bill Lindsay posted some advice on this in a different thread, and I thought it was very wise. I’ll try to find it when I’m on not on mobile. Keep the Sam for now, and build it up with some light components. See how you like it, and if you’re not a fan, get the Roadini and port the parts over.

[RBW] New Roadini or hang on to Sam

2018-01-16 Thread lum gim fong
Call RBW And ask which of their bikes has the thinnest tubing and shortest chains stays. I’m no expert but I think that will give you the snappiest ride. Roadeo? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this grou

[RBW] New Roadini or hang on to Sam

2018-01-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
The fruits of contentment are poisoned by the pursuit of instant gratification. The challenge of practicing contentment is to delight in what you have. Simple. Hard. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" gro

[RBW] Re: New Roadini or hang on to Sam

2018-01-16 Thread Broccoli Cog
It's a 62 2TT On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 8:06:27 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote: > > For the sake of someone I know who may want a Sam - what size? > > On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:40:04 PM UTC-5, Broccoli Cog wrote: >> >> Hello friends, I'm looking to do a road bike build and I am having >>

[RBW] Re: New Roadini or hang on to Sam

2018-01-16 Thread Belopsky
For the sake of someone I know who may want a Sam - what size? On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:40:04 PM UTC-5, Broccoli Cog wrote: > > Hello friends, I'm looking to do a road bike build and I am having trouble > deciding between keeping the Sam Hillborne frameset that I already own or > go in

[RBW] New Roadini or hang on to Sam

2018-01-16 Thread Broccoli Cog
Hello friends, I'm looking to do a road bike build and I am having trouble deciding between keeping the Sam Hillborne frameset that I already own or go in an entirely different direction starting from scratch with a new Roadini frameset. I purchased the drop bar Sam as a complete in 2016. This

[RBW] interesting article on fenders from Compass

2018-01-16 Thread 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch
https://janheine.wordpress.com/?utm_source=Retail+Customer+Newsletter&utm_campaign=72d051e458-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_01_15&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f74fbd5ca8-72d051e458-108574281&mc_cid=72d051e458&mc_eid=4f91954305 I thought this was an interesting read, especially with the recent posts about fe

[RBW] Black 52cm Clementine F/F/HS $700 plus bikeflights

2018-01-16 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I wish I was not writing this ad, but unfortunately, I need to generate some cash, and my Clementine, aka Clem Smith Jr. L-style, is one of the few bikes I own with any real measurable resale value. It has been truly a joy to ride, and if my circumstances were different, I would keep this bike

[RBW] Price decrease: FS: Black 52cm Clementine f/f/hs $700+

2018-01-16 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Giving this a little nudge and a little price drop. $700 + bikeflights for frame and fork, headset, kickstand, and seat post. That's $150 off the current price, and there are no 52cm framesets currently available. Plus looks like a price increase is inevitable. Frame is in great shape, and the

Re: [RBW] Re: Fenderless Sam: Snoqualmie or Barlow Pass?

2018-01-16 Thread Patrick Moore
IME, even the best modern sealants work best on very small punctures, where they work excellently. But for large holes say for big nails, again IME, they are worse than no sealant, at least for tubes, since they don't seal these and make a mess that prevents patching. I carry spare tubes on each of

[RBW] Re: Fenderless Sam: Snoqualmie or Barlow Pass?

2018-01-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
I forgot to mention I briefly experimented with running Orange seal in my tubes and the fuss and mess was too much for me. I don’t have issues here with thornes and I know how to (mostly) avoid pinch flats, so the only flats I get are due to big gashes from glass or other detrius. So my 30-35 ps

[RBW] FS: Shimano (mostly) 105 groupset-ish

2018-01-16 Thread Belopsky
I want to go Campy 11 on my Gunnar so.. For sale: black black black As seen here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/AFUzdCUFZ4BqGHnY2 Shimano FC-RS500 CX Crankset - 11 Speed - 36/46 / Black / 172.5mm Shimano 5800 front derailleur Shimano 5800 rear derailleur Shimano 5800 Shifters 2x11 Crankset 20miles

[RBW] Re: FS: Canti brake sets - Tektro, VO Grand Cru and Avid Shorty Ultimate

2018-01-16 Thread Ash [who works to bike]
Price drop: Tektro CR710 - $35 VO Grand Cru Zeste - $60 Avid Short Ultimate - $75 On Saturday, 30 December 2017 16:00:48 UTC-8, Ash [who works to bike] wrote: > > Accumulated these in the process of deciding on brakes for my Appaloosa > back in June. I have used them each for 100 miles or l

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Brewster Fong
I run 9 speed cassette on 2 bikes, 7 speed fw on another an 11 speed on my go-fast. I'm not sure what the "advantages" are, if any, of going to 11. Well, I guess if you like closer range of the cogs, there's more of them, so that's good. You can also find stuff that may not be available in 8 or

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubeless Maintenance

2018-01-16 Thread Patrick Moore
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[RBW] Re: Lightest canti-Rivendell is?

2018-01-16 Thread stoker
On Saturday, January 13, 2018 at 11:14:31 PM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote: > > I am really curious on the build specs. I'm assuming light wheelset which > brings the weight down..My Gunnar is more than 20.. It's a lightweight frameset - 7/4/7 TT, 8/5/8 DT, Lite seatstays. I weigh around 155. Wheelse

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Hi Paul, I too have the itch. I am the original owner of a Merlin Extralight ('95 vintage). I originally spec'd it with 8-speed Dura-Ace, early brifters. After awhile running the 8-speed drivetrain I converted the crank to a triple, using a 39-tooth 'tripleizer' along with a wider bb. Run

Re: [RBW] Re: Tubeless Maintenance

2018-01-16 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Thanks again, Patrick. I just chatted with a fellow bikepacker who is building up his dream ride (Surly ECR) and he too heard good things re OS > Stan's. He wants to go Rohloff, which I agreed was great. He might have to go chain vs. Gates though. Take care, Jeff On Sunday, January 14, 201

[RBW] Re: Hubbuhubbuh with drop bars?

2018-01-16 Thread Harald Kliems
Just a quick update. The good news: I bought a tandem. The bad news: It's not a Riv. At a bike swap yesterday, I found a good deal on a 2001 Cannondale tandem in our size. I'm a little sad that I won't get to own a Riv, but reason says that I made a good decision by starting our entry into the

[RBW] Re: Did you lose your Silver Roadeo?

2018-01-16 Thread 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch
If this is the René Rivera I know, he is the dedicated, hard-working, Executive Director of Bike East Bay (formerly the East Bay Bicycle Coalition). René was also a long time member of the SF Bike Coalition. So seems likely that it was found in San Francisco, Oakland or Berkeley. David Lipsky B

[RBW] Re: Did you lose your Silver Roadeo?

2018-01-16 Thread 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch
The René Rivera I know is Executive Director of Bike East Bay (https://bikeeastbay.org). René was also a member (and director) of the San Francisco Bike Coalition. Makes it likely it was found in SF, Berkeley or Oakland. David Lipsky Berkeley, CA On Sunday, January 14, 2018 at 8:16:31 PM UTC-8,

Re: [RBW] Fixed n’ Frosty Winter Medley

2018-01-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Wally. I'll check them out. On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Wally Estrella wrote: > Yes, they do. I think these are slightly larger in diameter than the > normal KK's so am unsure if it'll fit into a cage. > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Patrick Moore
This brings up an interesting question: I know it applies mostly to racing at close to 10/10s, but still: do any of you find that the easier shifting when using brifters translates into measurable speed gains, on the average? I realize that this depends on riding style and conditions, but I think t

Re: [RBW] Fixed n’ Frosty Winter Medley

2018-01-16 Thread Wally Estrella
Yes, they do. I think these are slightly larger in diameter than the normal KK's so am unsure if it'll fit into a cage. On Tuesday, Janua

Re: [RBW] Fixed n’ Frosty Winter Medley

2018-01-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Wally: you mean that these KKs come in a wide mouth (lid covers mouth) model? I must look for those. Or put more tape on the bottles I did buy. Speaking of horses: reminds me of the little diaper/catch-it bags carriage horses in Kebek City used to wear, and of the line in Red Sky at Morning where

Re: [RBW] Fixed n’ Frosty Winter Medley

2018-01-16 Thread Wally Estrella
Patrick: The narrow mouth caps are screw in to the tops leaving the outside of the top exposed. It looks like the wide mouth caps cover the outside of the top some, so it should keep any kicked up debris flavoring to a minimum. CHEERS! Wally in Maine On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 12:12:07

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Brewster Fong
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 9:14:58 AM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote: > > Campy 11/Shimano 11 are interchangeable as far as: > Campy 11 drivetrain w/ Shimano 11speed cassette or vice-versa > Agree. I'm using Sram etap with Campy 11 cassette/wheel and it works perfectly. But is there a way it does

Re: [RBW] Fixed n’ Frosty Winter Medley

2018-01-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
We get cow cookies and horse hockey pretty commonly round here (several horse barns on the MUP to Woodland Park, open grazing in the National Forest, BLM, etc.) and I just don’t worry about it, save I don’t use the pop-up sport lids, just the screw on lids. I drink so infrequently I don’t need i

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Belopsky
Campy 11 works with 9speed Shimano Campy 10 works well with 8speed Shimano Campy 11/Shimano 11 are interchangeable as far as: Campy 11 drivetrain w/ Shimano 11speed cassette or vice-versa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To un

Re: [RBW] Fixed n’ Frosty Winter Medley

2018-01-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Should have responded in earlier reply. Thanks, good to know. My rides don't involve much less tha 20*F so the KKs ought to work nicely -- but again, how to keep dirt off the mouths? On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Och! I failed to respond to your temp. question. You’d

Re: [RBW] Fixed n’ Frosty Winter Medley

2018-01-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks. I must get some Kleen Kanteens -- just bought 2 insulated bottles on Amazon that were advertised as being 2.8" in diameter but turned out to be 2.6 -- too small for a cage. --- Just noticed that tops on your KKs are not covered -- how do you keep dirt off? More important probably around my

Re: [RBW] Fixed n’ Frosty Winter Medley

2018-01-16 Thread Wally Estrella
Barr mitts has a neoprene burrito wrap insulator for bottle cages. http://www.barmitts.com/products.php?page=winterbot On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 11:44:47 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Spot on, Wally! I carry my bottles in their cages, open and exposed to all > air flow. Doing what

Re: [RBW] Fixed n’ Frosty Winter Medley

2018-01-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
Spot on, Wally! I carry my bottles in their cages, open and exposed to all air flow. Doing what you did would have allowed for the 6 hours — and is my plan for future longer excurtions in the nippy. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

Re: [RBW] Fixed n’ Frosty Winter Medley

2018-01-16 Thread Wally Estrella
I’ve used the 12oz insulated in -10°F w/ some windchills. After 4+ hours my tea was still very hot to the tongue. This was also cinched up in a RJF bartender bag which has a thing foam liner. On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 3:57:17 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Och! I failed to respond

[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Max S
Back when we were young and good looking (in the '90s), I entered some races with an old-fashioned bike, downtube shifters, etc. So did my friend, initially. He was married, so unlike me, he didn't waste time on social life, instead training seriously. He won a bunch of races with his downtube

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

2018-01-16 Thread Tim Gavin
Yes, all three major brands offer hidden cable routing. Shimano was the holdout; they designed their system to avoid Campagnolo's patents, so they kept the east-west cable exit through 9-speed. However, some have criticized Shimano's 10-speed brifters for wearing through cables rapidly (due to the

[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

2018-01-16 Thread William R.
Daniel: my Roadini came with a seat post, as it seems others did. I was surprised to see the seatpost in there when I opened up the box. I thought I read in one of Grant’s posts that seatposts would not be included. Maybe they only had a certain amount. Regarding tire clearance on the Roadini: