Thanks very much Jimmy. I think your distinction between current and past
AHHs is very helpful. While I'm not in the market for a new Riv, I do like
to keep up with what's posted here and should the right older bike ever
come available I might jump on it. Knowing a little more about how the
Thank you Ryan. Yes, I've seen a few of the geometry charts and one chart
that seems to recommend different frame sizes based on PBH. Mostly, I was
just curious how the bike measured up and definitely agree that the best
thing to do is understand the geometry of my own bike and why I love the
Thanks, Mat; I look forward to learning (and perhaps eating).
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 6:57 PM Mat Grewe wrote:
> There are two kinds of store bought sourdough. One is the true artisan
> style sourdough you get at artisan bakeries or some food co-ops, that is
> the kind I make. The other is
My Rivs, at least, complain if I put much more than 15 lb more or less
evenly distributed between L and R; though 20 -- 10 each -- is alright.
Heavy loads do much better in the rear, either in Rollers or in one of the
big Riv saddlebags -- I've carried up to 45 lb in rear panniers on a light
road
https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/d/allenhurst-bridgestone-bub-le-bubster/7117761177.html
It’s mine. Well, it was to be wifey’s but I cant wrestle my Clementine back
from her so here we are. I have the matching BUB H listed as well.
I have no idea how to price these so Im starting at
There are two kinds of store bought sourdough. One is the true artisan
style sourdough you get at artisan bakeries or some food co-ops, that is
the kind I make. The other is "sourdough" flavored sandwich bread, which I
refuse to eat.
I'll type up a simplified how to tomorrow. The gist is
I'd recommend Cliffhangers for the extra width, but yes, absolutely, Atlas
are stout enough. 2.8" is a lot of tire. I'm not sure I'd want to go
narrower than the Cliffhangers, but they may well ride just fine. I know
the modern stated limits can be pushed without compromizing safety (Jan at
Ray,
Here is the explanation from Mercian.
https://www.merciancycles.co.uk/craftmanship/paint/
Best,
Rich in ATL
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 6:52 PM Ray Varella wrote:
> Can anyone explain what exactly “stove enamel” is and how it differs from
> paint?
>
> Is it just a form of enamel that hardens
Gus/Susie pre-orderers: what rims are you planning to use? Are Velocity Atlases
stout enough for the intended use of this bike?
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70nm for the bb cups, that is. More like 32nm (with grease) for the crank
bolts. A good lesson in following manuf torque and process recs when
conflicting info exists online.
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> Creaky Campy Record cranks... until I learned that
Creaky Campy Record cranks... until I learned that square taper campy bb
spindles prefer dry assembly (or with the smallest amount of grease) and a
recommended torque of 70nm!!! Haven't had any creaky issues since (500
miles + and still going strong)
On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 1:31:12 PM
John,
Two-part answer. If we are talking about the made-in-Japan or made-in-USA AHHs
that one could see in the used market, the answer is:
No my guess is that you would likely ride a 65 cm AHH if you ride a 62 cm Hunq.
The AHH (Japan or US) has a more “traditional” top tube that slopes up 1.5
Not intuitive AT ALL, which is why I endeavor to explain it from time to time.
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Can anyone explain what exactly “stove enamel” is and how it differs from paint?
Is it just a form of enamel that hardens better by baking?
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Read closely Leah..
Abe is a very budget minded Riv connoisseur he explicitly states he is looking
for a used model.
Although I think that approach is wise and often successful it can be difficult
on the extreme sizes.
When one becomes available often a second closely follows but long
Nice assist Joe!
It becomes so easy one one learns the process. Not intuitive for non techies
until they are walked through it.
Ryan
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Oh, my Baby Bear... Well, sadly, he has been afflicted with a selfish woman
for a mother who is blowing the whole wad on a fancy Cheviot, so there will be
no Little Blue Clem for him.
Besides, it’s now Abe’s wife’s Clem L, so I couldn’t possibly buy it!
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I object to the notion that her boys will grow out of bikes I can then fit. Who
ya callin' short?? (ok I'm short )
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15* above average at 89*F, sunny as it can only be at 5K+ feet, humidity at
7%, and no wind, *mirabile dictu* since this is our windy season. Took a
break from a resume I should have completed yestiddy to ride the Matthws on
a quest seek and find an acequia trail/road that I'd blundered into
Joe- Not sure any of us believe you. And yes it is perfectly fine to buy a
bike you do not need just because you like the color 路♂️. How could you even
question such a thing.
Leah- Imagine how cool your baby bear would feel with a beautiful blue Clem L
like his mom. Besides if your
It's hard to beat the big Ortlieb rollers for groceries. Just grab them and
load up. I like putting bread and chips on the very top, so it will just
barely buckle. This week I had probably 40 lbs in them on the front rack-
it had so much inertia that I actually moved the quill stem about 15
James,
I have 2-3 nitto drop bars that you could choose from if you have not found a
trade yet.
Sincerely,
Ryan
West Michigan
(616)928-4226
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Had a once-per-pedal-revolution click that went away for a few days every
time I washed the bike.
I swapped chains, pulled off the cranks, checked the bottom bracket and
shell, swapped seats…
It turned out to be a bad pedal. I never did find out what that had to do
with washing the bike.
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Matt: I'd be interested in learning more about making sourdough. I am
interested largely for curiousity, as I like yeast bread just fine, but I'd
be delighted to learn to make bread that tastes even better. I do have to
say that I don't particularly care for the taste of store bought sourdough
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Great bike, great color. I never pass up a chance to post a picture of my
Roadeo - in same colors! Not set up for brevets, but pretty well travelled:
https://flic.kr/p/2h8QWXZ
Max B
Santa Rosa CA
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But now that I read the descriptions, dimensions, and look at the photos, I
think I may need the Chocos... Oy! I’ve also got a Jitensha bar, so maybe I’ll
throw that on and see where that lands me for the time being.
- Max “the barbarian” in A2
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Joe, sorry to be a pain but I don't see "Desktop" when I look at the bottom
of the page - just white empty space. Right clicking with my mouse doesn't
give that option either. I would appreciate any other advice you might
have for me. I probably am not seeing something obvious. Best, Andy
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> Hi all! New to the group.
> I have what appears to be a like new (if not new) Rivendell Grabsack, this
> one has the “V brand” logo. Never really used it.
>
> Color is something close to tan/khaki
>
> $65 shipped within
Actually, I’ve recently acquired from a list pal a 48 cm Noodle (heat treated)
that’s probably too wide for me, so I could go either for a 46cm instead, a RH
bar, for an Albastache trade.
- Max “up on bars“ in A2
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I kid I kid, I'm not buying that bike. I just sold one!
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While that Clem L is just perfect, I should have mentioned I’m in the used /
budget market.
While I buy lots of bits and bobs new from Riv, the only bike I bought directly
from them was also a used double top tube Sam bully up and well ridden for
$1,000.
Thanks for looking out! Maybe Joe
Oh, David, my heart belongs to that lithe-looking mixte. I’ll wait, but I’ll
also whine about it to pass the time. Therefore, when you see my posts on
this thread just scroll on by! So much angst. It all goes back to the rumored
Anniversary Mixte - I’ve essentially been waiting for that bike
There's a blue L? In driving distance from me? Should I go buy a new bike I
definitely don't need right now just because I like the color??
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I should have added: He does NOT want to ship, but I could facilitate if
someone out of the area is interested.
BTW, he has a big, double top tube Sam, too!
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Abe! Get her the blue!!! It will be the RBW blue if it’s from 2019 and it’s the
most gorgeous blue they’ve ever done Will you let us know what happens???
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> On May 2, 2020, at 11:01 AM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch
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> Abe,
>
> Contact Rob Allen At
Abe,
Contact Rob Allen At "Blue Heron Bikes" 1306 Gilman St. in Berkeley.
510-524-1937
They have:
> a 45cm L in Blue
> a 45cm H in Silver
Rob told me $1650 + $39.99 for the Ergon grips (+ taxes)
They just reopened this week
David Lipsky
Berkeley
On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 10:52:42 AM
Now that Justin is not looking any longer, I’m interested in the same bikes if
anyone is selling (in Napa, Ca but can travel an hour or two for pickup).
Looking for something for my wife with a 72cm PBH so 45cm Clem L or 47cm
Cheviot or something similar.
Lovey bike you found instead though
OOPS!
Sorry, Garth is correct, I looked at the H not the L. BikeInsights lists
the 52 L wheelbase as being 125.9 cm and the 59L as 131.4cm and describe
them as 'November 2019 update' model. Here is a link:
2019 November Update L
That's like a veritable land yacht ! I'm about to find that out whenever
my Susie Slugged-a-Stone gets here. I'll be banging it all over the place,
good thing it'll have big tires and no fenders.
In regards to paint, well I like variety myself. Give the blues and greens
a break and do a
Gustavo, did I buy a VO front rack from you a couple years ago (and looked
at a few of your other bags like Ostrich or some other nice bags)? The rack
is still working nicely on my Cheviot.
Abe
On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 7:07:04 AM UTC-7, Gustavo Vasquez wrote:
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> Hi all! New to the group.
> I
John not in my opinion. The Hunqa has a 6* upslope. Whereas the original AHH
had almost a level top tube.
Length of tube and angles are just a few of the variables that change to make
direct correlations not always likely.
Rivendell has lots of Geometry charts to search through and I
Yikes, Garth, so I was wrong - that’s nearly 52 inches. Yeah, I had to get a
long wheelbase bar for my bike rack. The 47.25 in Cheviot will seem like a
shortie.
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> On May 2, 2020, at 9:08 AM, Garth wrote:
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>
>
> Leah, David is listing the Clem-H, not the -L. Yours is
Leah, David is listing the Clem-H, not the -L. Yours is indeed longer .
The current -L wheelbase is as long as the Susie in 59cm, 131.4cm. The 2
are in fact so close the deciding factor for me was the much higher head
tube on the Susie than the -L.
I should add, I used to make a lot of bread with commercial yeast, but now
making bread (and pizza dough) almost exclusively for the past three years
with sourdough starter as the leaven, I've noticed some interesting
benefits over commercial yeast. And yes, some are actually bike related.
Rich, thanks for your response. The paint givens the impression of a bit
more depth and glow. I love the aesthetics of bikes and get pleasure from
glancing over at my bike as I work (this includes my Clem H) that I mainly
use for commuting.
Best,
Andy
On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 8:24:46
Gustavo, I would like to purchase this. I am sure there is a way to post a
private message but I don't know what it is. How would you like to
proceed? I can pay via PayPal. Best, Andy
On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 7:07:04 AM UTC-7, Gustavo Vasquez wrote:
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> Hi all! New to the group.
> I have
Would anyone be interested in exchanging Nitto drop bars for Nitto
Albastache. I send the Albastache and receive the drops. I could either
sent my whole cockpit (nitto stem, silver shifters, basic brake levers) for
your cockpit (depending) or just swap bars for bars. I'm in VA. Lemme
know.
Very nice Andy. What a find! I've always liked Mercians but never owned
one. Grant referenced Mercian's influence in one of his two recent Blahgs.
I'm curious. How do you like the "stove enamel" finish and how does it
compare to conventional wet paint? Thanks very much for sharing the images.
David, do you know if that’s the 2019 geo? I’m nearly certain my 52 Clem has a
wheelbase of 50 inches...I can re-measure if folks are shocked...
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Welcome, Gustavo!
Someone buy this bag, or I’ll have to, but I’ve already got two, one fairly new.
Philip
Santa Rosa, CA
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I measured the Medium (53cm) Susie demo frame at RBWHQ as having a 125
cm/49.2" wheelbase (and 650b wheels)
The 59 cm Clem is listed by BikeInsights as having a 124 cm wheelbase (and
700c wheels)
They list the 52 cm Clem at 116.5 cm (and 650b wheels)
David Lipsky
Berkeley
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